Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill

[ImperfectPixie]

A lesson plan is much more specific though.

It would be like asking a doctor to see your session notes for your last appointment, and them saying to go online and look up the treatment protocol that they use. You’d want more specifics. One is a subset of the other, or should be, but they’re not the same thing.

Edited to add - My comment was in response to a question from another poster, it wasn’t about the bill.

Lesson plans are designed by the teacher for the children specific to his or her class (differentiation based on where the children in the class currently are in their learning and how the children in the class actually learn) and follow the subject matter and learning goals of the curriculum. As lessons are completed and based on assessments, upcoming lesson plans are tweaked to allow for review of information that needs more time or the speeding up of areas where there is good understanding. These tweaks are often made "on the fly" during the day. The curriculum itself (subject matter, topics, and learning goals) remains unchanged. It's simply logistically impossible for teachers to provide parents with every lesson plan.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

I do want to say, I don’t believe this is the overwhelming mindset of parents. I believe, based on the experiences in my area, that it is a very vocal minority who happen to have a lot of influence in media/politics and using that to make it seem like they represent the majority.

Yes...I should have been more clear about this. It's a HUGE problem for schools and teachers. Adding an edit to my comment above.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Thank you! I love this! I don't agree with it 100%, but I do agree at about the 95% level so it's more than enough to owe you a drink and a reserved seat at the bar.

This constantly evolving purity test that everyone has to pass now, or else you are a horrible person who should be banned from society, is one of the dumbest things I've seen the 21st Century invent. How sad that some younger folks think that's normal, and that free speech and even a slight diversity of thought shouldn't be allowed.

And I fully expect this bill to be finally decided by the courts. It's just how the country works sometimes.

21st century? No, human beings have had the tendency to try and shut others up and shame those with different opinions for eons.

That’s not new to the 21st century. It seems new likely due to social media, where you can find a bunch of opinions, and at lightning speed. I would argue that now has never been a better time to express one’s opinion in this country.

 

[Indy_UK]

I see every Disney account on Instagram is posting the same message today that they stand for inclusiveness ect

I love Disney but I am so disappointed in them. They get caught out by the public and then flip flop for weeks deciding how to respond.

As a gay man, my husband, son and I go to places like Disney because we feel we won’t be judged or feel awkward.

It’s one thing after another with their PR atm.

I’m disappointed

 

[monothingie]

This constantly evolving purity test that everyone has to pass now, or else you are a horrible person who should be banned from society, is one of the dumbest things I've seen the 21st Century invent. How sad that some younger folks think that's normal, and that free speech and even a slight diversity of thought shouldn't be allowed.

You will never appease them, it only serves to embolden the most radical elements of the extremes of both sides. The sewer that is social media will ensure that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This “statement”…My god…more buzzword nonsense…

This management is awful

 

[JohnD]

That's a wonderful statement from Disney but a red herring. The bill is about teaching children from Kindergarten through 3rd grade.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

That's a wonderful statement from Disney but a red herring. The bill is about teaching children from Kindergarten through 3rd grade.

No, it isn't. The "or" means that it can apply to any grade.

 

[JohnD]

No...the current mind-set is overwhelmingly that parents "know better". Just like they "know better" than scientists. Just like they "know better" than doctors.

They're wrong.

EDIT: Bad use of "overwhelmingly" here. It is a relatively small number (depending on where you live, obviously), but they are very loud and have a lot of influence, and use those to make them seem like they are in the majority. But they believe VERY STRONGLY that they know better than the professionals.

There is a time and a place to teach children sensitive subjects. Between Kindergarten and 3rd grade isn't one of them.

 

[lazyboy97o]

There is a time and a place to teach children sensitive subjects. Between Kindergarten and 3rd grade isn't one of them.

The law also applies to high school students.

 

[BuddyThomas]

It's not about "for laughs". There's isn't hundreds of years of history of gay men who dress in drag enslaving, abusing, torturing, oppressing, and murdering women and using drag to justify it.

The attempt to equate blackface to drag is worse than the attempt to equate children who need IEPs to parents wanting to change the curriculum for thousands of students based on their personal beliefs.

Also, as you probably know but others may not, "drag" goes back to the days of Shakespeare and beyond. As someone who has written a couple of successful shows that call for characters in drag, one of which was nominated for the GLAAD Award for Best Play, I can assure people on here that drag has nothing to do with blackface whatsoever.

 

[monothingie]

And we're off to the races.....yet again.

 

[monothingie]

Fascinating.

What does that even mean that they postponed a "management retreat" scheduled for next week? Are we supposed to be impressed that a catering company had to cancel an order for bagels and lox? That the Grand Californian suddenly has an extra 100 rooms and the Sequoia Ballroom available for rent?

Somehow, some way, I imagine the world will continue to spin and the dolls at Small World will continue to sing without next week's "management retreat" for Disney's executives.

It means 100 rooms at the Grand Californian suddenly opened up! Book'em quickly!

 

[JohnD]

The law also applies to high school students.

The "or" says "or in a manner that is not appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

And I will happily provide the link to the bill: https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sect...ocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=1557&Session=2022

 

[Disney4Lyfe]

So, I came across this slide in all the hysteria around the Florida bill. And this type of thing is why the majority of parents support the bill. And this is only the official state curriculum. Individual schools and teachers teach other things that are simply inappropriate for children. Parents, while watching school on zoom are now aware of these things. I mean, do 10 year olds really need to be taught about masturbation by a teacher?

 

[ImperfectPixie]

That’s weird. I was homeschooled from 1st grade onwards and somehow never learned that the earth was flat! In fact, I might even wager to say that I got a very well-rounded education with special attention paid to areas and topics I was struggling in or especially interested in. It’s almost as though a parent will do his or her best to educate a child based on love for that child, regardless of educational degree or not. That’s something you can’t say of a regular schoolteacher.

If you’re opposed to this bill because you think it’s discriminatory against LGBTQ people, how is slandering homeschoolers not more discrimination?

My comment has absolutely nothing to do with homeschoolers and everything to do with the increasing numbers of people who believe in conspiracy theories and things that have already been proven false.

 

[JohnD]

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So, I came across this slide in all the hysteria around the Florida bill. And this type of thing is why the majority of parents support the bill. And this is only the official state curriculum. Individual schools and teachers teach other things that are simply inappropriate for children. Parents, while watching school on zoom are now aware of these things. I mean, do 10 year olds really need to be taught about masturbation by a teacher?

It's like the Georgia voting law. Many were hyperventilating over it when other states had stricter election law procedures.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

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So, I came across this slide in all the hysteria around the Florida bill. And this type of thing is why the majority of parents support the bill. And this is only the official state curriculum. Individual schools and teachers teach other things that are simply inappropriate for children. Parents, while watching school on zoom are now aware of these things. I mean, do 10 year olds really need to be taught about masturbation by a teacher?

It's part of sex-ed...which parents have ALWAYS had the option to opt children out of. Nice try, though.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

The "or" says "or in a manner that is not appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

And I will happily provide the link to the bill: https://www.myfloridahouse.gov/Sect...ocumentType=Bill&BillNumber=1557&Session=2022

Which includes all grades. I've read the bill, thanks.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Which includes all grades. I've read the bill, thanks.

And the "standards" they're referencing for grades after 3 won't be written for a year AFTER the bill goes into effect.