ImperfectPixie
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Then unfollow the thread. And if you ignore the original poster, you won't even see it.
ETA: The situation in Ukraine is horrific.
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Bob Chapek's response to Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill
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ETA: The situation in Ukraine is horrific.
Californian Elitist
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If you already know what’s going to be said here, why do you keep clicking on the thread to read the posts?
Californian Elitist
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You would think they’d just avoid the thread, but nope.
TP2000
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To be fair, and perhaps clear up some of the confusion, this is a "break time walkout" not for the hourly, front line CM's in the theme park properties. It's a "break time walkout" planned for white collar employees in Disney's office complexes around the country, and thus it's rather meaningless and self-indulgent in my opinion because they have the luxury and career safety of doing that without any repercussions.
Their entire website https://www.whereischapek.com/walkout-instructions is instructing how to set up your easy-peasy and no-harm statement on "Outlook" and "Slack", which are email and office tools the white collar cubicle army uses every day. And it's all scheduled for the 3:00 to 3:15 "Break Time", because those cubicle dwellers have the luxury and white collar comfort of having dedicated and predictable break time every day where they pad down the hall to an air conditioned coffee room and kitchen facility.
Or, even better, they're all still working from home in their pajamas with a coffee mug full of Merlot, and they'll make the big, bold and entirely safe and virtue signaling statement of not appearing on the 3 o'clock Zoom call until 3:15.
If a CM operating a ride, or driving a parking lot tram, or cooking chicken nuggets at a deep fryer walks off the job suddenly at 3 o'clock, they put their fellow CM's and a bunch of paying customers in harms way on purpose. They could open themselves up to criminal charges for abandoning safety positions and putting human lives at risk like that. Not to mention being reprimanded and losing out on 15 minutes of pay.
This whole "walk out" concept is being communicated and planned solely for white collar employees in the cubicle farms of Celebration and Burbank and Bristol and Emeryville. Thus, it's a self-indulgent and rather meaningless statement that does not put any of those employees at risk for reprimand or criminal proceedings or lost pay. Not only is it something that requires no real risk on their part, in most situations their bosses will smile and tell them how "brave!" they are for standing up for the 2SLGBTQQIA+ Community, or thank them for "being a wonderful ally!"
Like most white collar elite Social Media stunts, this break time walkout is easy, vapid, and essentially self-serving for participants. But you can darn well bet the holier than thou participants will Tweet and 'gram the heck out of it! Don't forget to Like and Subscribe!
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morphi
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[Second time writing this reply. The original never posted.]
Same types of questions can be posed for any piece of law. Consider the First Amendment: Can a state, as opposed to the federal government, make a law respecting an establishment of religion? Can a government opt to not charge a church property taxes? Can a law be imposed if it has a disparate impact on religion? Is racist speech protected? Is speech that furthers a stereotype protected? Does a person's right to free speech include the right to lie about someone else? Does writing on a cake constitute speech? Does the amendment only apply to political speech? Are political contributions speech? Do corporations have the right to adopt policies based on religious principles? What defines protected journalism as opposed to other similar initiatives? etc.
My point is NOT that answers to these questions have not eventually been crafted by our country. My point is that the people did not refrain from passing the first amendment until all definitions, clarifications, limitations, and applications were settled. If the establishment of law required us to wait for such things, there would be no law.
That said, this bill is by no means reckless or arbitrary.
It could be repealed or modified by the legislature. It could be over-turned in the courts or modified by the courts (by decisions under the law that define and constraint its meaning, purview, and application).
The impetus for these actions could be chaos created by BOTH sides filing suits under the law regarding who holds whose hands in a cartoon. This would quickly become unworkable until the courts defined the concepts, boundaries, and applicability of the law (as they have done over time with, say, the first amendment).
Generally, I do not buy into conspiracy theories. But just for the sake of the discussion, it would not alter my confidence in understanding the TEXT of the bill knowing that it is the text which is controlling. [edit]
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To be fair, and perhaps clear up some of the confusion, this is a "break time walkout" not for the hourly, front line CM's in the theme park properties. It's a "break time walkout" planned for white collar employees in Disney's office complexes around the country, and thus it's rather meaningless and self-indulgent in my opinion because they have the luxury and career safety of doing that without any repercussions.
Their entire website https://www.whereischapek.com/walkout-instructions is instructing how to set up your easy-peasy and no-harm statement on "Outlook" and "Slack", which are email and office tools the white collar cubicle army uses every day. And it's all scheduled for the 3:00 to 3:15 "Break Time", because those cubicle dwellers have the luxury and white collar comfort of having dedicated and predictable break time every day where they pad down the hall to an air conditioned coffee room and kitchen facility.
Or, even better, they're all still working from home in their pajamas with a coffee mug full of Merlot, and they'll make the big, bold and entirely safe and virtue signaling statement of not appearing on the 3 o'clock Zoom call until 3:15.
If a CM operating a ride, or driving a parking lot tram, or cooking chicken nuggets at a deep fryer walks off the job suddenly at 3 o'clock, they put their fellow CM's and a bunch of paying customers in harms way on purpose. They could open themselves up to criminal charges for abandoning safety positions and putting human lives at risk like that. Not to mention being reprimanded and losing out on 15 minutes of pay.
This whole "walk out" concept is being communicated and planned solely for white collar employees in the cubicle farms of Celebration and Burbank and Bristol and Emeryville. Thus, it's a self-indulgent and rather meaningless statement that does not put any of those employees at risk for reprimand or criminal proceedings or lost pay. Not only is it something that requires no real risk on their part, in most situations their bosses will smile and tell them how "brave!" they are for standing up for the 2SLGBTQQIA+ Community, or thank them for "being a wonderful ally!"
Like most white collar elite Social Media stunts, this break time walkout is easy, vapid, and essentially self-serving for participants. But you can darn well bet the holier than thou participants will Tweet and 'gram the heck out of it! Don't forget to Like and Subscribe!
What's the source on "White collar walk out " on March 22? You didn't mention a topic of mass walk out on 3/22 that was the shared link.To be fair, and perhaps clear up some of the confusion, this is a "break time walkout" not for the hourly, front line CM's in the theme park properties. It's a "break time walkout" planned for white collar employees in Disney's office complexes around the country, and thus it's rather meaningless and self-indulgent in my opinion because they have the luxury and career safety of doing that without any repercussions.
Their entire website https://www.whereischapek.com/walkout-instructions is instructing how to set up your easy-peasy and no-harm statement on "Outlook" and "Slack", which are email and office tools the white collar cubicle army uses every day. And it's all scheduled for the 3:00 to 3:15 "Break Time", because those cubicle dwellers have the luxury and white collar comfort of having dedicated and predictable break time every day where they pad down the hall to an air conditioned coffee room and kitchen facility.
Or, even better, they're all still working from home in their pajamas with a coffee mug full of Merlot, and they'll make the big, bold and entirely safe and virtue signaling statement of not appearing on the 3 o'clock Zoom call until 3:15.
If a CM operating a ride, or driving a parking lot tram, or cooking chicken nuggets at a deep fryer walks off the job suddenly at 3 o'clock, they put their fellow CM's and a bunch of paying customers in harms way on purpose. They could open themselves up to criminal charges for abandoning safety positions and putting human lives at risk like that. Not to mention being reprimanded and losing out on 15 minutes of pay.
This whole "walk out" concept is being communicated and planned solely for white collar employees in the cubicle farms of Celebration and Burbank and Bristol and Emeryville. Thus, it's a self-indulgent and rather meaningless statement that does not put any of those employees at risk for reprimand or criminal proceedings or lost pay. Not only is it something that requires no real risk on their part, in most situations their bosses will smile and tell them how "brave!" they are for standing up for the 2SLGBTQQIA+ Community, or thank them for "being a wonderful ally!"
Like most white collar elite Social Media stunts, this break time walkout is easy, vapid, and essentially self-serving for participants. But you can darn well bet the holier than thou participants will Tweet and 'gram the heck out of it! Don't forget to Like and Subscribe!
TP2000
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Here's their schedule. It's a series of four days of 15 minute "walk outs" during their scheduled afternoon coffee breaks this week. Then on Tuesday the 22nd there's a "full day walk out".
Considering that white collar employees at Disney receive between six and eleven weeks of paid time off per year, depending on their company tenure (two weeks of "personal care days" annually, 11 paid Holidays or Comp Days annually, between two and five weeks of paid vacation days annually depending on tenure), taking a Comp Day or Personal Day on a random Tuesday is only slightly more of a sacrifice than spending the afternoon coffee break Tweeting on the patio. I mean, who wouldn't want a day off to celebrate the arrival of Spring?
Disney4Lyfe
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Luckily this can’t happen. As the bill is quite clear. Lawsuits are based on a schools lack of response to parent requests. Phew!
ImperfectPixie
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You're underestimating lobbying groups. Some came into our town and leased space to establish residency so that they could attend the town/school board meetings and speak regarding mask mandates.
Disney4Lyfe
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Oh juicy. Was there some reporting on this?
ImperfectPixie
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I don't know...I don't subscribe to the smaller local newspapers. One of the town selectwomen told me about it right after it happened.
Disney4Lyfe
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What town? I would love to read about this story.
Casper Gutman
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No, they are based on a "concern" that "is not resolved" - ie, the school district doesn't do what the parent wants to the parents satisfaction.
I ask everyone in this thread, and I ask in good faith - can anyone direct me to a LEGAL EXPERT (not primarily a political pundit) who engages in depth with the text of the bill to explain why the concerns surrounding it are unfounded?
ImperfectPixie
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I'm not telling you what town I live in. I will say that the person in question had been doing the same things in different towns across the state (and causing problems while doing so) and was eventually arrested at a protest after getting violent with someone else.
Disney4Lyfe
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Got it. I see where this is going. Have a good evening.
lazyboy97o
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What is an ultimatum? Alex.
Disney4Lyfe
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“Each school district shall adopt procedures for a parent to notify the principal, or his or her designee, regarding concerns under this paragraph at his or her student's school and the process for resolving those concerns within 7 calendar days after notification by the parent.
a. At a minimum, the procedures must require that within 30 days after notification by the parent that the concern remains unresolved, the school district must either resolve the concern or provide a statement of the reasons for not resolving the concern.”
That’s the words.
It’s all right there guys.
ImperfectPixie
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It's not "going" anywhere. The entire thing lasted a few months and then was over once they were arrested.
Disney4Lyfe
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This would be news. Yet you refuse to share it. Odd.
BuddyThomas
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I doubt she wants to tell an internet stranger what town she lives in, particularly someone who just joined, but Pixie can speak for herself, obviously.
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