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PhotoDave219

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Thats a nice point and shoot, and it has a true "image stablilizing lens" wherein the lens optics actually move inside the camera, rather than what some are braning as "image stablizing" wherein its just a higher ISO.

I'd buy it.

As for ISO.... ISO is like film speed, 100, 200, 400, 800, etc. Like with film, you get more grain or noise as the speed goes up. How the relationship with the shutter speed works is pretty simple.... If youre at ISO 100 and the shutter is 1/125th, at ISO 200 it would be 1/250th..... meaning at nightime if the ISO at 100 and it said you needed a 1 second exposure, if it was at 200 it would be 1/2 sec, 400 would be a 1/4, 800 would be 1/8th and so on and so forth. However, the pictures get progressivly noiser as the ISO goes higher.

For example, the Castle at night is roughly 1/80th at ISO 800 (assuming a 2.8 lens and the gels are on the pink rotation. I'm going to leave the aperature or f-stop out of this as to not add to any further confusion)
 

MattyFresh

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who knew taking pictures could be so confusing and complicated :hammer:

is there a class that I can take....hehehe
 

dolbyman

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For example, the Castle at night is roughly 1/80th at ISO 800 (assuming a 2.8 lens and the gels are on the pink rotation. I'm going to leave the aperature or f-stop out of this as to not add to any further confusion)

Wow 1/80th ? from what I did already with my 400D (Rebel XTI) I'd say it's around 1/15-1/5 @ ISO 800 with smallest aperture .. Is the XTI that bad ? :shrug:
 
Wow 1/80th ? from what I did already with my 400D (Rebel XTI) I'd say it's around 1/15-1/5 @ ISO 800 with smallest aperture .. Is the XTI that bad ? :shrug:

I think your forgetting about the f-stop. He was using a 2.8 if you've stopped down on the XTI its going to have to be slower. I'm not sure how you set your shutter to 1/80th, he may have ment 1/8th... but the last time I was there shooting the castle at night I was shooting at 1/125, though I was using a f-stop of 1.2 and the castle wasn't lit in red it was a bright blue snowflake effect...

Bottom line is I think he needs to experiment when he gets there to get the right adjustment. Lots of things can come into play and what was perfect on my camera or your camera may not be perfect on his.
 

KeithVH

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OK. Admittedly I somewhat biased by I suggest you hie yourself over to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/ and look at the following:

Best image quality
Canon G7 - has IS
Canon A630/640 - great all-round units, most bang/buck

IS and pocketability
SD750IS/850IS - both better IQ than the 800
SD800IS - wide angle

Does everything but bulky
S3IS/S5IS - great movie mode

Only go with the 570 or 710 if you can't get anything else. The 710 has several faults (like a crappy LCD and poor flash) that prevent it from being a standout.
 

MattyFresh

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OK. Admittedly I somewhat biased by I suggest you hie yourself over to http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Canon/ and look at the following:

Best image quality
Canon G7 - has IS
Canon A630/640 - great all-round units, most bang/buck

IS and pocketability
SD750IS/850IS - both better IQ than the 800
SD800IS - wide angle

Does everything but bulky
S3IS/S5IS - great movie mode

Only go with the 570 or 710 if you can't get anything else. The 710 has several faults (like a crappy LCD and poor flash) that prevent it from being a standout.

does a crappy LCD really play a decision in if you buy it or not??? I mean isn't that splitting hairs just a bit???

The problem I am running into with all the cameras you suggested is either price....or they don't have IS. Maybe I am just a noob at this, but I don't see what is so wrong with the 710?
 
does a crappy LCD really play a decision in if you buy it or not??? I mean isn't that splitting hairs just a bit???

The problem I am running into with all the cameras you suggested is either price....or they don't have IS. Maybe I am just a noob at this, but I don't see what is so wrong with the 710?

The bottom line is any of those camera and a lot of older Canons that have been discountinued are capable of taking very good pictures even at night. The LCD should only be a major issue if you get a camera that only has a LCD and no optical viewfinder, then you want to make sure you can see it in the daylight.

I've gotten great night shots with an old canon a510 and I've gotten some really bad shots with a dSLR. If you've decided on Canon as the brand your going to get then don't fret about the little things, just focus on how each one feels in your hands and how quickly it can take the first picture and then recharge the flash for the second. And how it feels in your hands can be pretty crucial. If you have large hands and get a dinky camera you'll regret it. As for IS, I'm not sure of the value. I don't mind it in a lens but I personally wouldn't want it as part of the camera itself. I've heard too many stories of IS breaking and to me its just one more thing to go wrong inside a camera. A tripod makes for a cheap alternative to IS.
 

MattyFresh

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Original Poster
thanks for all the help and advice, you guys have helped out. I still have no idea what I am going to buy. But thanks for all your time and patience.
 

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