News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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Bocabear said:
So.... time for the sparkly analog fiberoptic lighting in the channels...that operated for decades with no problems... Seems like the new lighting stopped working in sections within a few days.... This lighting was supposed to be the kinetic replacement for the fountain we didn't get....
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There's no reason for LED lights to not work when wet. Check out every outdoor string of LED lights at Christmas time. A few scattered lights are still working tho waterlogged.

I'm guessing the water shorted out controllers which should have been hardened v. water.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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MisterPenguin said:
There's no reason for LED lights to not work when wet. Check out every outdoor string of LED lights at Christmas time. A few scattered lights are still working tho waterlogged.

I'm guessing the water shorted out controllers which should have been hardened v. water.
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there is no reason this should have failed in it's first week of operation and still waiting for repair half a year later...the trip hazards have been repaired but not the lighting issues... When the central planter ended up as lackluster as it is, it really needed something to make it special...unfortunately the something special was to be this lighting....which has failed... They need to re-think this whole central planter and area and make it the spectacle it should be....
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

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Bocabear said:
there is no reason this should have failed in it's first week of operation and still waiting for repair half a year later...the trip hazards have been repaired but not the lighting issues... When the central planter ended up as lackluster as it is, it really needed something to make it special...unfortunately the something special was to be this lighting....which has failed... They need to re-think this whole central planter and area and make it the spectacle it should be....
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This stupid planter (obviously an attempt as cost savings) and the embarrassing broken lighting is such an absolute failure that I would welcome another 5 years of walls if we could get a big beautiful state of the art fountain built there.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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They honestly should rip that whole circle out and start over.... A show fountain that follows the lighting and music for Spaceship Earth...... THe sound, the movement...the color would add so much to that now dry dead heart of Communicore....
 
tparris

tparris

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These new panels don’t seem see-through… and I lifted an old panel up near the new ones and they didn’t clean the mildew out of the lights or replace anything before installing the new panels… I think the ground lights aren’t coming back.
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Bocabear

Bocabear

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This was a fairly simple project... a centerpiece garden area for Epcot's old Communicore area... the Hub for the land....
If this ended up being such a mixed bag of nothingness and a failure to provide an engaging central feature, I can't begin to imagine what is going to happen with the back half of the Magic Kingdom park with this same creative team.
 
Epcot82Guy

Epcot82Guy

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Bocabear said:
This was a fairly simple project... a centerpiece garden area for Epcot's old Communicore area... the Hub for the land....
If this ended up being such a mixed bag of nothingness and a failure to provide an engaging central feature, I can't begin to imagine what is going to happen with the back half of the Magic Kingdom park with this same creative team.
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My issue is they know how to make things look "pretty". But, they aren't compelling. The novelty wears off very quickly. Pandora still feels engaging. Galaxy's Edge is detailed but waning. Celebration Gardens is already starting to feel slightly stale and "been there".

As with so much, it feels like the goal is to come up with a story in the designers' heads, build some lavish version on paper - and then whittle it back over time and with group committee think. So, in the end, there isn't really a story left to tell. These places feel decorated far more than compelling, believable spaces. That's one of the problems IMHO.
 
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James Alucobond

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Better than an embarrassing flickering trip hazard, but this should have been the interim solution months ago, not the likely end of the story. Hopefully the apparent surrender on this signals that they'll ultimately just rethink the planter entirely, but yeah. Not great. This isn't a thing that feels like it should be so difficult.
 
ChewbaccaYourMum

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Hopefully this is just a fix right now because they've tested (behind the scenes) for months since the issue started and nothing is viable. So this might just be for safety reasons, and they continue to think of solutions or a complete redo of the ground lights maybe years from now.

I tend to not think like the majority here that they are just sitting on their hands and not trying at all times. I really do believe they have tried for months to think of a way to make this work as is and just can't, so they have to go with this "coverup" option for safety reasons.
 
bpiper

bpiper

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Disgruntled Walt said:
You know what didn't have issues like this? The FOUNTAIN!
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The fountain was running pretty ragged the last 5 years. There was unequal pressure among the nozzles causing different height, water sprays. Some nozzles just dribbled out water during the show or just continuously. Some of the nozzles were misaligned causing the spray to go in the wrong places.

Basically, after that last refurb it got, Disney pretty much abandoned its upkeep and maintenance. I guess at that point they knew it was going to go away and decided not to spend any more time and money on it.
 
trainplane3

trainplane3

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bpiper said:
The fountain was running pretty ragged the last 5 years. There was unequal pressure among the nozzles causing different height, water sprays. Some nozzles just dribbled out water during the show or just continuously. Some of the nozzles were misaligned causing the spray to go in the wrong places.

Basically, after that last refurb it got, Disney pretty much abandoned its upkeep and maintenance. I guess at that point they knew it was going to go away and decided not to spend any more time and money on it.
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I forget when but it was mentioned somewhere here when exactly maintenance was purposefully moved to deferred status. It was only in poor condition because management stopped caring about it.
 

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