Beer Question for Brits on the Board

wdwwdeagle

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Original Poster
We have a friend from southern England who has always called a frothy beverage made with half cider/half Guinness a "Snakebite."

When we go to Rose & Crown, they call half cider/half Tennant's a Snakebite, and the cider/Guinness drink a "Black Velvet." What gives?

BTW & FYI: even though it's not on the menu at R&C, you can order the cider/Guinness beverage and it's very enjoyable. Just call it a black velvet when you order. Smile.
 

RiversideBunny

New Member
I remember when going to London that I had to learn the right terminology for ordering.
What I wanted is called 'a pint of bitter'. Here it would be a 'draft beer', usually with a brand name involved.

In Ireland when ordering a pint of Guiness it seemed that the bar tender was taking a long time, maybe he forgot. Then I found out that to serve Guinness properly, he had to wait for it to settle after drawing it.

Cheers !
:slurp:
 

wdwwdeagle

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Original Poster
Nothing "gives" - some drinks have names - simple


I'm sorry. I guess I wasn't very clear in my OP.
My confusion doesn't lie in the fact that the drinks are named....

I was trying to figure out which is the proper name for a half cider/half Guinness.
I don't know if my friend is using the wrong name, or if it's called by a different name in different parts of GB. I was just surprised to see that a Snakebite at R&C is made w/Tennant's rather than Guinness; that's all.

More curiousity than anything, really.
 

sueuk

Member
We've always called Guiness/cider - Black Velvet and any lager/cider - Snakebite. Reminds me of my ill spent youth!!:ROFLOL:
 

tampabrad

Active Member
Black Velvet = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Champagne
Poor Man's Black Velvet = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Cider
Black and Tan = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Bass
Half and Half = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Harp
Snakebite = 1/2 Lager 1/2 Cider
Black and Blue = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Belgain White (Blue Moon)
Black and Brown = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Newcastle Brown

Guinness goes on top and will float due to the specific gravity of each beverage.

-Cheers!
 

Rob562

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Black and Blue = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Belgain White (Blue Moon)

Hmmm... Here in Massachusetts, I've heard of a Black & Blue as being Guinness and Blueberry Ale (there's a few local breweries that make it).

My friend's wife also raves about getting a Strongbow (cider) and black currant. She said the only place outside of London that she's ever found to be able to get it is at the Rose & Crown and Raglan Road.

-Rob
 

sueuk

Member
Hmmm... Here in Massachusetts, I've heard of a Black & Blue as being Guinness and Blueberry Ale (there's a few local breweries that make it).

My friend's wife also raves about getting a Strongbow (cider) and black currant. She said the only place outside of London that she's ever found to be able to get it is at the Rose & Crown and Raglan Road.

-Rob

Yep, a cider and black! The mainstay of my teen age parties!:) Actually the Guiness brewery in Dublin serves Guiness and black to sweeten it for those who don't like the taste .
 

heartodisney

Active Member
Black Velvet = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Champagne
Poor Man's Black Velvet = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Cider
Black and Tan = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Bass
Half and Half = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Harp
Snakebite = 1/2 Lager 1/2 Cider
Black and Blue = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Belgain White (Blue Moon)
Black and Brown = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Newcastle Brown

Guinness goes on top and will float due to the specific gravity of each beverage.

-Cheers!


Need your help, not had a "Lager", is that out of a tap or a specific brand..and "Harp" also. Thanks! I have just not had these two! :lookaroun :wave:
 

Crush Dude!

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Need your help, not had a "Lager", is that out of a tap or a specific brand..and "Harp" also. Thanks! I have just not had these two! :lookaroun :wave:

Lager is just beer, ie. carlsberg, heineken!

Harp is a brand, bt no longer available at rose and crown:wave:
 

Crush Dude!

Back from WDW!Counting down to DLP in November!
Black Velvet = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Champagne
Poor Man's Black Velvet = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Cider
Black and Tan = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Bass
Half and Half = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Harp
Snakebite = 1/2 Lager 1/2 Cider
Black and Blue = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Belgain White (Blue Moon)
Black and Brown = 1/2 Guinness 1/2 Newcastle Brown

Guinness goes on top and will float due to the specific gravity of each beverage.

-Cheers!

This is spot on!!!!!:slurp:
 

greebomusic

Well-Known Member
I drink New Castle and Hornsby's all the time. I was introduced to the mix at Shakespeare's British Pub in Tarpon Springs, Florida (actually it was McEwan's Scotch Ale and Hornsby's.. they called it a Scotch Apple). I just prefer New Castle Brown.
 

disney magic 06

Well-Known Member
WHAT???? They no longer have Harp at R&C? I love that!! Oh well, I shall have to make do with Strongbow, its the only place I ever drink that stuff. Wonder why it tastes so much better there than at home? :veryconfu
 

Crush Dude!

Back from WDW!Counting down to DLP in November!
WHAT???? They no longer have Harp at R&C? I love that!! Oh well, I shall have to make do with Strongbow, its the only place I ever drink that stuff. Wonder why it tastes so much better there than at home? :veryconfu

Yeah it went last year, try the stella on draught its good :slurp:
 

Phonedave

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Lager is just beer, ie. carlsberg, heineken!

Harp is a brand, bt no longer available at rose and crown:wave:



Not to be picky but larger is not "just beer"

Beer is for the most part either an ale or a lager


Ales are fermented at warmer (room) temperatures with top fermenting yeast. For the most part they are more robust tasting, not as clear, and darker than lagers.

Lagers are fermented at colder temps. Actually they are held in what is called a lagering rest at a cold temp. They also use bottom fermenting yeasts. The lagering rest helps to do a number of things, not the least of which is precipitate proteins that cause chill haze. Lager beers are cleaner tasting and clearer looking. (They are also more of a pain to make)

You also have some oddball beers out there, like California Common, which is what Anchor Steam is. Thats a beer thats fermented with lager yeasts at ale temperatures.

Anyway, for a snakebite, it should be mixed with a lager. Something light and crisp. European lagers include (I dont know what R&C carries) Carling, Harp, Pilsner Urquell, Stella, Tennents, and Warsteiner.

-dave
 

Rob562

Well-Known Member
British beer sucks, get yourself some Hoegaarden (although they would have to put in a Belgian Pavilion for that). ;)

I believe my roommate got himself a Hoegaarden at the Rose & Crown when we visited last year... I should still have the receipts from that trip here somewhere...

EDIT: Yup, here it is. "Hoegarden $8.00" Same price as my Guinness pint. :) Don't know if it was draft or bottle, though.
(Scary what I can dig up when I start looking...)

-Rob
 

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