Bad Shows

[brich]

... He was painting a section of the wall - no problems there....

The problem was - he was smoking as he was working

I guess some only see what they want... Your OP was pretty obvious and I agree with you. I love to see painting. It means things will continue to look nice. I would be a little disappointed with the smoking part. I expect all CM or Contractors working within the confines of a Disney park to adhere to the same rules. Until the kid at the grocery store lights up while bagging my groceries, I suspect smoking is not favorable by most while on the job. There's a time and place...

 

[DisneyFreak529]

He was smoking a cig, so do hundreds of guests each day...

He was painting a wall! What show are you guys talking about, a man was painting a wall. I still don't see what the big deal is! I'm a non-smoker, and I still don't see what the big deal is.

 

[sabian]

You know what bad show is?...................This thread....my god, it is like a root canal without novacaine. I mean, someone starts a thread and no one answers it. Instead, we get 150,000 explanations of what bad show means. This makes watching paint dry seem like a ride on Mission Space...... :lol:

 

[lady_vor]

I also see this as "bad show". I agree that chores such as painting should be done after the parks are closed. Come on you guys, let's face it... even the gaarbage pickers blend in. I remember seeing them, but only twice at the most. The fact that this guy was smoking while painting makes the matter worse, and for a couple of reasons.

1) It's dangerous.
2) It's not healthy.
3) It just looks bad!

That's my opinion. I'm sure many disagree, but aren't threads all about voiceing different views on the subject matter?

 

[brich]

He was painting a wall! What show are you guys talking about, a man was painting a wall. I still don't see what the big deal is! I'm a non-smoker, and I still don't see what the big deal is.

Simple. The original post stated that painting the wall was not the issue. The issue was the fact that a worker in a Disney park was smoking while working in plain view of the guests. Not that smoking is bad. Not that painting is bad. Not that smoking while painting is bad. Someone working in the park was smoking while working. The original poster felt that wasn't up to Disney standards. :brick:

Am I right PBarton? :veryconfu

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I need a cigarette...

 

[PBarton]

Simple. The original post stated that painting the wall was not the issue. The issue was the fact that a worker in a Disney park was smoking while working in plain view of the guests. Not that smoking is bad. Not that painting is bad. Not that smoking while painting is bad. Someone working in the park was smoking while working. The original poster felt that wasn't up to Disney standards. :brick:

Am I right PBarton? :veryconfu

100%!!:wave:

Thank you, I thought that I had touched a nerve here....

As I have mentioned previously, it was the fact that he was smoking in full view of passers by.

It did not "ruin" my holiday in any way, it just stuck in my mind for a while. The fact that he was smoking with no care for the Disney image. I would have not "grassed" him up to a supervisor, or anything like that either. I guess we should let this thread die out, my view is that it was a bad show.

 

[shakes20]

Let me add my 2 cents...

Painting: Not bad (as was stated repeatedly by the original poster)
Smoking: Bad

There are several signs and announcements around the parks stating that they are a smoke free environment. Smoking is only allowed in designated areas. I'm fine with that. I have no problem with guests having a cigarette (or cigar) in designated areas. But even in those places, you would never see a cast member lighting one up (can you imagine Snow White puffing on a cig? :lookaroun ). The problem is that an employee was smoking "on stage" in front of everyone. Even if that was a designated smoking area it would be unacceptable. Have you ever seen a server smoking while taking an order in the smoking section of a restaurant? NO! It should not happen.
That being said, I don't think there was any implication that this was the end of the world, that seeing this destroyed someone's vacation, just that it was "bad show." Which, by the way, I agree with.

 

[shoppingnut]

Smoking, it's legal, people do it. The fact that he hasn't burst into flames while painting probably means he's been smoking and painting for years and has it down to a science. If he were painting anywhere else but Disney no one would have given a darn about it. Interesting how we hold Disney to a higher standard.

I think I need to curse. Cursing, people do it, should a CM, definitely not, but it is a fact of life. If you plan on stepping out with the public, well there are lots of things people do that are unacceptable and unless you are planning on never leaving your home you have to deal with them.

 

[PBarton]

Smoking, it's legal, people do it. The fact that he hasn't burst into flames while painting probably means he's been smoking and painting for years and has it down to a science. If he were painting anywhere else but Disney no one would have given a darn about it. Interesting how we hold Disney to a higher standard.

I think I need to curse. Cursing, people do it, should a CM, definitely not, but it is a fact of life. If you plan on stepping out with the public, well there are lots of things people do that are unacceptable and unless you are planning on never leaving your home you have to deal with them.

The painter only had to take a few steps and then he would be "back stage", allowing him to enjoy a well deserved smoke (out of view of the paying public).

That would have made all the difference.

 

[brich]

If he were painting anywhere else but Disney no one would have given a darn about it. Interesting how we hold Disney to a higher standard.

Should we not? :veryconfu

I think I need to curse. Cursing, people do it, should a CM, definitely not, but it is a fact of life. If you plan on stepping out with the public, well there are lots of things people do that are unacceptable and unless you are planning on never leaving your home you have to deal with them.

True. Very True. But again, the issue being Disney... A worker in the park smoking is "bad show". Not taboo. Not punishable by electrocution. Not passing judgement on the painter, aside from the fact that it just didn't look up to Disney standards for some. This has nothing to do with unacceptable behaviour in the real world. Chipped paint, trash cans hidden behind a bush, bird droppings on signs, gum and trash on the ground, smoking while working - all things one could consider acceptable or unacceptable any where in the world. In a Disney park, some consider this degrading to what some hold as a high standard, an illusion that we have that Disney is not like the rest of the world. On the Disney stage, it just isn't becoming...

 

[brich]

Has anyone else got any similar stories??

:lol: Getting back to your actual question. Not really. I haven't seen anything that struck me as being noticeably bad. I guess thats a good thing. I can't remember anything so if I have seen something, it hasn't left a lasting impression... :lookaroun

 

[PBarton]

Not bad going there... over 30 posts before answering the question!!

 

[shoppingnut]

This has nothing to do with unacceptable behaviour in the real world.

Yes, but the real world people come to Disney and bring those unacceptable behaviours with them. It is unfortunate and yes, we do hold them to a higher standard, that is just the way it is. This guy probably didn't think anyone was paying attention to him because he was "just painting" and I bet he was a contractor and not CM since we do know that not every aspect of things done at Disney are done by CM's.

 

[General Grizz]

Interesting how we hold Disney to a higher standard.

You're very, very right. "Quality Service means exceeding your guests' expecations and paying attention to detail.

There is one thing that every guest brings to Walt Disney World along with their families and friends - expectations, often very high expectations. Wowing guests, to borrow a word from Tom Peters, means not only meeting these preconceived notions of what a Disney vacation should be, but exceeding them.

At the Walt Disney World Resort, exceeding guests' expectations it the standard call to duty, and if you study the resort, you can see how that works on a myriad of occassions every day." - Be Our Guest by the Disney Institute

 

[nickcarraway]

You just said he was smoking, but was he smoking marijuana? If so, I think that's totally unacceptable.