ThemeParks4Life
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Can't we just use LF?
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luv
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I had no idea what people were complaining about with the whole MILF thing. I certainly didn't have any reason not to use it until someone finally told me what it also referred to, lol.
Some posters like the acronym. Some don't. I have generally avoided it since.
But do remember that not everyone who uses it has any idea what those who take offense are thinking.
Some posters like the acronym. Some don't. I have generally avoided it since.
But do remember that not everyone who uses it has any idea what those who take offense are thinking.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
My fingers are literally bleeding from putting together Star Wars Legos that my son got for his 6th birthday. Pretty much every kid from his class got him a Star Wars gift. We took the doubles back and got more sets. I complain like its a big inconvenience for me to put them together for him, but I really love it. I would buy them for myself
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GoofGoof
Premium Member
My 2 cents. I agree with all the posters who said they didn't feel Disney should or will try to "swat" Potter. Neither resort is hurting for business and both draw on each other for guests. In the past Universal was literally a parasite living off of the over flow from WDW. After Potter the relationship is closer to even (not even yet, but closer than it was). People do go to Orlando to see Potter. It's a fact, no disputing that. Leaving locals aside, some just do a long weekend or a few days and only visit Uni. The vast majority of guests visiting Orlando for 5 to 10 days who visit one or both of the Universal parks visit some or all of the Disney parks too. Many stay on property at Disney too. It's a fact that Disney makes money off of the success of Potterland. They loose money and guests because of it too. I would love to see an analysis that quantifies the gains for Disney from people who may not have gone to Orlando at all if not for Potter offset by the losses from people spending a day or 2 off property. I know it's not really possible to do, but I think if it was a lot of people would be surprised to see the results.
Disneyhead'71
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But let me guess, you are impressed with the New Fantasyland.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I was impressed with New Fantasyland and I like Universal. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive in my mind. I get to have my cake and eat it too
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I had a similar experience at Christmas....spent hours following the directions for several Star Wars Lego systems only to have them totally destroyed by the owner by him actually PLAYING with them.My fingers are literally bleeding from putting together Star Wars Legos that my son got for his 6th birthday. Pretty much every kid from his class got him a Star Wars gift. We took the doubles back and got more sets. I complain like its a big inconvenience for me to put them together for him, but I really love it. I would buy them for myself
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
I think the exterior themeing of the New Fantasyland is quite nice. But the only thing that impressed me about it (the themeing) is that TDO ACTUALLY ponied up the bucks to build it. But I will say that I am impressed with the Lumiere AA.I was impressed with New Fantasyland and I like Universal. The 2 aren't mutually exclusive in my mind. I get to have my cake and eat it too
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Yes, the price tag was pretty crazy. Makes you wonder how much a full blown Star Wars Land would cost. I'm thinking a billion would be a good starting point.
Disneyhead'71
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I know I'm odd, but I would think that even the most pixie dust addled Disney fanboi would be a little impressed with:
But I guess it just SCREAMS Six Flags carnival crap. Universal fan's taste obviously only exists in their mouths.
But I guess it just SCREAMS Six Flags carnival crap. Universal fan's taste obviously only exists in their mouths.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I had a similar experience at Christmas....spent hours following the directions for several Star Wars Lego systems only to have them totally destroyed by the owner by him actually PLAYING with them.
Yep. My 3 year old is the wrecker of all things Lego. I can't hide them from him. He seeks them out and destroys. Even the 6 year old is a little young for some of the sets, but he loves them. I've rebuilt the tie fighter about 6 times since March. I don't even need the instructions anymore
. He really wanted Jobba's palace but it was $95 and had like 1,000 pieces. We skipped that one. Wait until he sees the Death Star set. It looks so cool, but its like $400 or something crazy like that.
Victor Kelly
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A Potter Swatter= Maintenance, Cleanliness, upkeep of existing attractions, add a few new attractions. How the WDW parks used to look and feel like, can equal Uni. Better built and imagined attractions can surpass Potter temporarily. In the theme park business, your lead is only temporary in relation to what the competition is willing to spend.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I have a hard time believing anyone who has actually seen this is not at least a little impressed. Most people are blown away, even people who went in biased (I admit I'm one).I know I odd, but I would think that even the most pixie dust addled Disney fanboi wouldn't be a little impressed with:
But I guess it just SCREAMS Six Flags carnival crap. Universal fan's taste obviously only exists in their mouths.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
I went into the 3 days of our trip at Universal last year expecting it to be cheap and not as much fun as Disney (biased much?)...
I was certainly suprised, in a very good way. The two parks were lots of fun, well themed...in fact, my only serious gripe about Universal was the lack of good counter service options on the parks. They all served the same things...mediocre chicken, terrible pizza, or not-so-tasty burgers!
Other than that though, it was a blast!
Lord_Vader
Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
Are you trying to say that Potter hasn't blown the roof off of theme park merchandising? I live 3 miles from Universal and 12 miles from WDW and see FAR more Potter merchandise walking around on a daily basis than Star Wars merch. I actually see more Potter merch walking around DHS than Star Wars merch in the park where Star Wars is. I am not trying to say that Star Wars isn't a powerhouse IP, because it obviously is. But are you REALLY trying to say that Potter isn't a powerhouse IP?
But I do love how Disney fans, and particularly Disney fans who are also Star Wars fans seem quite literally offended by Potter. And are absolutely intent on Pooh-Poohing on it and Universal. But it is hard to argue with this:
Not offended by Potter at all,I personally found the movies entertaining and the WWoHP is very well done but a one time experience for me, like cotton candy. My statement was a simple opinion based on my children and the children I interact within my neighborhood and as a youth baseball coach (9 to 15yo.).
Having said that,I am the only member of my family that liked the Potter films and my wife really doesn't like Star Wars at all but does tolerate it at WDW because my son and I both love it.
My main point was/is that HP was a good series of movies, did not like the books at all though and I believe the magic of Disney is not that they need to do anything to "swat Potter," they need to do what they do best and that is to focus on their core properties which includes one of the strongest IPs right now, Star Wars. Especially Star Wars because they cannot use Marvel and Avatar is not nearly the draw right now, time will tell.
I would never plan a vacation around WWoHP, it is simply not compelling to my family and the families I interact with. Would they visit USF/IoA if they were at Disney, some do and some don't but most stay on Disney property, eat at Disney restaurants and visit only IoA to see WWoHP or Sea World for a day if they leave the parks.
The families I know that have done both, stayed at both resort liked Disney's better
Are you trying to say that Potter hasn't blown the roof off of theme park merchandising? I live 3 miles from Universal and 12 miles from WDW and see FAR more Potter merchandise walking around on a daily basis than Star Wars merch. I actually see more Potter merch walking around DHS than Star Wars merch in the park where Star Wars is. I am not trying to say that Star Wars isn't a powerhouse IP, because it obviously is. But are you REALLY trying to say that Potter isn't a powerhouse IP?
But I do love how Disney fans, and particularly Disney fans who are also Star Wars fans seem quite literally offended by Potter. And are absolutely intent on Pooh-Poohing on it and Universal. But it is hard to argue with this:
I liked the HP movies,though WWoHP was more fluff and have a wait and see attitude toward the property as a whole. In no way am I offended by HP in the least and for you to assume such is baseless at best.
I found WWoHP a lot like cotton candy, sweet and nice but later it left me bored.
I was stating a FACT that children, mostly boys from my area prefer Star Wars to HP. Their parents spend lots of money on action fugures, costumes, t-shirts and more and the old brooms and HP toys are in the clearance aisle. Sure, USF may be selling a lot of HP souvenirs but Disney is worried about the big picture and not just theme park sales, Comcast makes nothing if HP action figures are selling like hotcakes but Disnwy makes a lot if Star Wars toys are.
Now, would I plan a vacation to see WWoHP, never! I might be compelled to visit WDW more often if they built a SW land because it is something my son and I share together, and he really liked Be Our Guest much to our surprise and is begging us,at 16, to eat breakfast at Chef Mickey's this summer because we didn't Christmasand he missed it.
I interact with a LOT of families with a very wide range of ages, boys and girls and only one was excited about WWoHP but they stayed at DBW because it interested them and they spent eight of their ten days in WDW,one at Sea World and one at IoA.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
The three broomsticks is the only good CS restaurant at UO. Maybe second place to the one in Seuss Landing, but that's only good because its connected to the employee cafeteria.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
We didn't get a chance to try Three Broomsticks, though I did walk in there.
We had lunch at Seuss Landing and it was terrible. Worst burger of my visit, with soggy old tasting fries. Even the kid didn't finish her fries (and that's unlike her). We ended up eating very light, and topping off our stomachs with Popcorn and Moose/Goose Juice.
Lord_Vader
Join me, together we can rule the galaxy.
The problem I have with it is that the rides I rode on when I was a kid are gone forever, I can't share them with my children but I can at Disney, call it nostalgia if you like.
USF is nicely themed but never really felt compelled to revisit more than once in ten years (2001 or 2002 when IoA opened) and was there in September and again to Disney at Christmas, not interested enough to drive the span at all.