Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

Mickeyboof

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It’s actually pretty great when a passionate designer gets the chance to elevate dead/negative space with some spice! It seems to really flow well, even adds a blend between the pavement transitions. The intention behind it is solid.

The entirety of Disneyland is based on artistic technique from film and animation… why can’t the same be added to avengers campus, which was born from traditional print media? Look at universal studios completely uninspired cardboard cut out aesthetic versus Disney’s, which seems to be really aware and ingrained with the form it was born from!
 

Suspirian

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the goop isnt squashed bugs?

Also, about PIxar Pier. I dig it but some dont. I wish theyd go all the way with it and retheme mermaid to coco or something pixar, and get rid of goofy sky school for something pixar related as well. And finally, redo the paradise pier pizza and pasta place as a real pizza planet. a real one, just like the movies...to me that would be a spectacularly cool thing to see made into a reality. Also, this would of course a new food option in tomorrowland and i would suggest space 220 if it works well at epcot.
I think it would be nice if they developed Paradise Gardens Park into something aesthetically different so it can actually seem like its own land. Maybe a more natural beachy area.
 

Suspirian

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"Calling all Super Hero recruits! We recently shared first-look images of Avengers Campus, opening at Disney California Adventure park on June 4. Today, I’m excited to take you back inside of Avengers Campus for a closer look at just some of the details you may come across as you visit the different addresses. But first, did you know that Campus stands for Centralized Assembly Mobilized to Prepare, Unite, and Safeguard? Now you know!

The main entrance to the land is located adjacent to the Worldwide Engineering Brigade – also known as WEB, however, the land also features a back entrance just outside of Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT!, one of the land’s anchor attractions. Touring this area, I discovered a curious substance.

Guardians of the Galaxy – Mission: BREAKOUT!


A late addition to the Campus, Taneleer Tivan, a.k.a. the Collector, placed his Fortress against its edges. This placement warped the ground immediately surrounding the alien stronghold causing a cosmic disruption to ooze from the ground below. Hues of blues, purples and yellows glow in the daylight. Pretty rad, huh?

Terran Treats


Nearby, The Collector is also curating a weird and wonderful menu of intergalactic eats at the Terran Treats food cart. Just one of his curious creations, the Sweet Spiral Ration Churros will feature unique and unexpected flavors. You never know what you’re going to get, but trust me, they are delicious!

Pym Test Kitchen featuring Impossible™


Around the corner, Pym Test Kitchen featuring Impossible™ is a food innovation science lab where the food and drinks tell a story. As we’ve shared before, just as Ant-Man and The Wasp use “Pym Particles” to grow and shrink just about anything, Pym Technologies applies this innovative science to the creation of inventive-sized foods, like the pretzels that grow and shrink as they pass through the quantum tunnel. This logic also applies to the beverages and condiments, seen here overhead in the beverage and condiment station. No appetite is too big or too small here!

Avengers Headquarters at Disney California Adventure park


Back outside, we come to the heart of the land – Avengers Headquarters, where you will find the emblematic Avengers “A” on the building and surrounding areas. At Avengers HQ, you may catch a glimpse of the Avengers springing into action, ready to save the day. A shining Quinjet sits atop its roof as a beacon for the campus.

The Orb of Cagliostro


Close by, but what feels like is located in another dimension are the overgrown ruins of an Ancient Sanctum. For as long as anyone can remember, rumors of unexplained events and energies have emanated from this remote location. Here, you’ll learn mysterious secrets from Doctor Strange and discover ancient, magical artifacts. Pictured here, the Orb of Cagliostro is known to be especially active at night when it flows with magical energy!

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And for our final stop on today’s tour, we come to the front of the land. Back in the 1940s, Tony Stark’s father built a Stark Motors factory here in California, and decades later, Tony transformed the site into the Worldwide Engineering Brigade – also known as WEB. This is the place where bright innovators like Peter Parker have been assembled by Tony Stark to invent new technologies and equip everyday people to become heroes. While the Avengers themselves are sleek, organized, and structured, WEB is expressive, youthful and chaotic. You’ll notice this throughout WEB. For example, outside the former factory building, you can’t miss the colorful graffiti murals created by young recruits with a knack for the arts."


It seems like they dropped the meta 'campus being in DCA' idea which I appreciate as well as the effort to make the front of the land blend aesthetically into the park. Honestly at this point, although this could have been done better, I'm not particularly mad at anything. Also I think the goo is pretty inoffensive and yall are doing a lot lol.

You know what? actually I think the goo looks better than the actual exterior of the ride.
 

Suspirian

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this was a well thought out thread! I liked their ideas for making sense of the ride better.


This is really good! You'd think this type of thing would have been thought of when creating the area. It's funny the way this kinda coincides with the convo about convoluted backstories. WDI takes so much time coming up with story on top of story for their blog, when story through visual clues like the ideas in this twitter thread are more practical...and more interesting
 

D.Silentu

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Is the goop actually dimensional, or is it leveled with the ground?

Also, I would like to nominate "Pretty rad, huh?", into our collective lexicon!
 

MoonRakerSCM

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... will the goop 'glow' at night with slightly distracting blacklights all over the walkway ala Avatarland?

Also, the schwarma booth is crossed off on that list... I thought it was actually going to be a thing or was it a bit of humor from the beginning?
 

waltography

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Is the goop actually dimensional, or is it leveled with the ground?

Also, I would like to nominate "Pretty rad, huh?", into our collective lexicon!
It's leveled with the ground, there just appear to be clear elements to it.

Unrelated, but if they were gonna jump the shark like this I wish they made the cosmic crackle light up at night just for fun. 😂
 

lazyboy97o

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Despite the stupid "history" the Disney Parks Blog puts out about the land, I feel like the land isn't taking itself seriously and therefore I'm not taking it too seriously. It's not like Batuu where the gravity of the design and development of the land is felt in every nook and cranny (weighing it down).

It doesn't make a fantastic land, but I'm sure I'll still enjoy it; I don't think it was trying to achieve what something like Galaxy's Edge was, so I'm not judging it as such.
If they weren’t taking it too seriously they would not bother with elaborate explanations for why all of this different stuff is there.
Yes its a starting point for the design process. And I don't see that changing anytime soon, as all theme parks appear to be heading in this direction. More and more complex stories wanting to be told via a theme park attraction. I mean even regular amusement parks seem to be trying to doing it with their coasters. So its not just Disney, its industry wide.

But what is given to the guest is promotional backstory, and usually fades into the ether shortly after opening. We likely won't hear about this backstory ever again a few months after opening. That is until the Avenger's attraction is built, if it still is.
All of it is supposed to be given to the guest. The story of a place should be understood by its built form. The guests should be getting a new Avengers E-ticket as part of this opening, but instead it actually happening is in doubt. For a company that only wants attractions based on proven franchises there should be no doubt and no need for phases. But there is because the process is broken and too expensive even for a ride based on movies that on their own are huge. That is the biggest threat of this broken process, not just at Disney but across the industry. The bubble bursting has happened before and nothing prevents it from happening again. It may have even already started with the pandemic.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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And I don’t think you need to read it to enjoy this land, either. But, I’d certainly read an Imagineering book about the backstory of buildings like Space Mountain because I’m a fan. The Big Thunder backstory is awesome, even if it is unnecessary. It is just cool for fans. I doubt the typical visitor would enjoy Avengers Campus any less if they didn’t know Tony Stark brought kids to WEB and they made the graffiti outside. Doesn’t make the place making wasteful, however. There are little details like that throughout the parks and they all have a backstory. Used to be called The Disney Difference.

I'll make another comparison of Themed Design as a Meal - technically, you're allowed to serve whatever you want for dinner. You can serve one kind of food, you can serve different kinds of food - but ultimately, when you put it on the plate, the food has to taste good, and generally it's best if it tastes good together. There's of course some wiggle room - not everyone has the same tastes, so presumably not everyone is going to love everything being served. But if you feel like you have to preemptively explain to your guests why none of the food on their plate is gonna taste like it goes together, "but it really really does if you think hard about it just let me explain it first" . . . something may be off.

The backstory for Avengers Campus feels like it's apologizing for placing all its elements together before guests have even gotten the chance to experience them. That's not a great sign.

Fantasyland NEVER apologizes for placing Peter Pan right across from Snow White, even though the particulars of those stories have little to do with each other. That space needs no "backstory" to explain why they've come together - the rules of the space can be understood intuitively just by inhabiting it. Not to mention, the concept of the land refers back to the mission of the park - so if you need clues to what's happening there, knowing that you're at Disneyland helps fill in the blanks.

There's room for backstory, but it's an ingredient - it should be baked into the meal sealmessly, you shouldn't taste the granules. And it's DEFINITELY weird to serve as a side dish. Disneyland Paris mixes a great backstory into all of the attractions and shops in its Frontierland - but you don't need to actively, consciously taste it in the dish to enjoy it. It's satisfying on its own harmonious merits - not because it's convoluted, but precisely because it isn't.

There's a difference between complex and complicated; One simply has many parts. The other has so many it's difficult to comprehend.

As with much of themed design, it's an Art rather than a Science, so it's hard to quantify. But that's why it's important to get it right. Otherwise guests are left with a bad taste in their mouth that can't be explained away.
 

lazyboy97o

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I'll make another comparison of Themed Design as a Meal - technically, you're allowed to serve whatever you want for dinner. You can serve one kind of food, you can serve different kinds of food - but ultimately, when you put it on the plate, the food has to taste good, and generally it's best if it tastes good together. There's of course some wiggle room - not everyone has the same tastes, so presumably not everyone is going to love everything being served. But if you feel like you have to preemptively explain to your guests why none of the food on their plate is gonna taste like it goes together, "but it really really does if you think hard about it just let me explain it first" . . . something may be off.

The backstory for Avengers Campus feels like it's apologizing for placing all its elements together before guests have even gotten the chance to experience them. That's not a great sign.

Fantasyland NEVER apologizes for placing Peter Pan right across from Snow White, even though the particulars of those stories have little to do with each other. That space needs no "backstory" to explain why they've come together - the rules of the space can be understood intuitively just by inhabiting it. Not to mention, the concept of the land refers back to the mission of the park - so if you need clues to what's happening there, knowing that you're at Disneyland helps fill in the blanks.

There's room for backstory, but it's an ingredient - it should be baked into the meal sealmessly, you shouldn't taste the granules. And it's DEFINITELY weird to serve as a side dish. Disneyland Paris mixes a great backstory into all of the attractions and shops in its Frontierland - but you don't need to actively, consciously taste it in the dish to enjoy it. It's satisfying on its own harmonious merits - not because it's convoluted, but precisely because it isn't.

There's a difference between complex and complicated; One simply has many parts. The other has so many it's difficult to comprehend.

As with much of themed design, it's an Art rather than a Science, so it's hard to quantify. But that's why it's important to get it right. Otherwise guests are left with a bad taste in their mouth that can't be explained away.
In short, more you feel the need to explain why something fits the more it probably doesn’t.
 

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