Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

mickEblu

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I don’t know maybe I’ve been spoiled with the last few D23s but I think something for DLR is going to be announced outside of updates on MMRR/ Toontown, PatF Mountain and the DTD expansion.

I think it will be one of the following….

1. Avengers Campus E ticket
2. GE expansion even if it’s just the dinner theatre
3. Tomorrowland refresh or redo.

Words are cheap. Why not generate the buzz and excitement? If they announce something they can very easily take it back with a simple parks blog as they have proved the last few years. Just because they announce something doesn’t mean they have to follow through or that it’s going to happen in the short term.
 

D.Silentu

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Yep, an E-ticket is in the works but it's not that one.
It is encouraging to hear that the completion of Avengers Campus has not completely fizzled out. However, taking you at your word I can't help but have mixed feelings. There is a thought among some on these boards that the previously announced Avengers concept seemed lacking. I suppose I understand where people are coming from, but I can't shake off one point.

In the ride's story, as heavily implied by Imagineers, we are passengers in a Quinjet simulator. At one point the Quinjet is shot down and we are ejected, saved only by the jetpacks we wear. It's a transition to the next segment of the attraction and, frankly, it sounds amazing!

This is what I want from a modern Disney attraction, moments that take my breath taken away. I want to feel like I did when first rode Indiana Jones. I had the same feeling stepping out of the shuttle craft into the hanger on Rise. It had been awhile since a Disney attraction made me feel that way, I daresay too long. So, it was very encouraging to me to hear that the next attraction heading to Anaheim would come with a brand new ride system that made possible such a potentially showstopping moment.

So, if that isn't what we're getting, then what? The park has Omnimovers and boat rides to spare, not to mention a fine selection of medium intensity coasters. Do the parks need more of those? The world of themed entertainment has been making grand strides lately and I'd hate to think that in this age Disney's next move might follow timeworn trends. Some have speculated that we may get a variation of Epcot's Guardian's coaster, but we have yet to see if it's capable of delivering on it's 'storytelling coaster' thesis. The initial Avengers concept seemed at least to aspire to the bar that Rise, and other modern attractions have set. Whatever they are now planning must do the same, yet I feel like we lost our bird in the hand because it's plain to see how interested Disney is in innovation at present.
 
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Animaniac93-98

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Something tells me they'll wait to see how well Guardians is received at Epcot before deciding on the new concept. I'm sure they could retrofit something similar (though Avengers-themed) in that area.

Disney is opening two Marvel coasters this year, Guardians at EPCOT and Iron Man at Studios Paris.

I still feel like they'd build one of those before going back to the FOP variation.
 

mickEblu

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It is encouraging to hear that the completion of Avengers Campus has not completely fizzled out. However, taking you at your word I can't help but have mixed feelings. There is a thought among some on these boards that the previously announced Avengers concept seemed lacking. I suppose I understand where people are coming from, but I can't shake off one point.

In the ride's story, as heavily implied by Imagineers, we are passengers in a Quinjet simulator. At one point the Quinjet is shot down and we are ejected, saved only by the jetpacks we wear. It's a transition to the next segment of the attraction and, frankly, it sounds amazing!

This is what I want from a modern Disney attraction, moments that take my breath taken away. I want to feel like I did when first rode Indiana Jones. I had the same feeling stepping out of the shuttle craft into the hanger on Rise. It had been awhile since a Disney attraction made me feel that way, I daresay too long. So, it was very encouraging to me to hear that the next attraction heading to Anaheim would come with a brand new ride system that made possible such a potentially showstopping moment.

So, if that isn't what we're getting, then what? The park has Omnimovers and boat rides to spare, not to mention a fine selection of medium intensity coasters. Do the parks need more of those? The world of themed entertainment has been making grand strides lately and I'd hate to think that in this age Disney's next move might follow timeworn trends. Some have speculated that we may get a variation of Epcot's Guardian's coaster, but we have yet to see if it's capable of delivering on it's 'storytelling coaster' thesis. The initial Avengers concept seemed at least to aspire to the bar that Rise, and other modern attractions have set. Whatever they are now planning must do the same, yet I feel like we lost our bird in the hand because it's plain to see how interested Disney is in innovation at present.

Yeah that transition you re talking about sounded intriguing to me too. But at the end of the day it’s still a screen ride and everything else is an unknown. I’d rather take a new coaster and it’s unknown elements vs a screen ride and it’s unknown elements. There’s really not as many quality coasters at DLR as you think. If you throw out the off the shelf coasters you re left with BTMRR, Space Mountain, and Incredicoaster. Of which, only 2 are themed. Do we really count Matterhorn as a coaster? I mean by definition of course but it’s kind if it’s own thing. Even if we include Matterhorn that’s 4. You have 5 rides at DLR where screens are the focal point - Soarin, Spidey, TSMM, Smugglers Run and Star Tours. That’s without even mentioning MMRR and Mission Breakout which is more of gray area ao I’m leaving them out.

It’s also the amount of time that has passed since we got a new coaster at DLR. We have gotten 4 out of the 5 mentioned screen rides above since the last coaster, California Screamin in 2001. It’s been 43 years since we have gotten a well themed coaster and 45 since the last indoor themed coaster. It’s time. A fun well themed coaster is Evergreen.
 
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chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
Yeah that transition you re talking about sounded intriguing to me too. But at the end of the day it’s still a screen ride and everything else is an unknown. I’d rather take a new coaster and it’s unknown elements vs a screen ride and it’s unknown elements. There’s really not as many quality coasters at DLR as you think. If you throw out the off the shelf coasters you re left with BTMRR, Space Mountain, and Incredicoaster. Of which, only 2 are themed. Do we really count Matterhorn as a coaster? I mean by definition of course but it’s kind if it’s own thing. Even if we include Matterhorn that’s 4. You have 5 rides at DLR where screens are the focal point - Soarin, Spidey, TSMM, Smugglers Run and Star Tours.

It’s also the amount of time that has passed since we got a new coaster at DLR. We have gotten 4 out of the 5 mentioned screen rides above since the last coaster, California Screamin in 2001. It’s been 43 years since we have gotten a well themed coaster and 45 since the last indoor themed coaster. It’s time. A fun well themed coaster is Evergreen.
I think there's a fine line between "Universal is all screen based and I don't want screen based rides in Disney parks" and having a few good screen based rides in Disney parks IF they are done well. I would take a very well done screen based attraction over another roller coaster any day of the week.
Well I’d settle for the Marvel themed Rock n Roller coaster although I’d prefer something more ambitious.
As I get older, my ability to ride wild rides gets less pleasant. I rode RnRC when I was at WDW and it was a one and done for me. I can't do those types of coasters much anymore (even Incredicoaster is a rarity for me). A lot of it has to do with the high G's and inversions. I don't get motion sick on screen based attractions (probably because I play a lot of VR), but coasters do me in.

Of course it's different for many people and even screen based stuff like Star Tours and MF:SR takes a toll on a lot of people and clearly Disney doesn't have to cater to me personally. I think it comes down to use of space and how broad an audience you wish to cater to.
 

mickEblu

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I think there's a fine line between "Universal is all screen based and I don't want screen based rides in Disney parks" and having a few good screen based rides in Disney parks IF they are done well. I would take a very well done screen based attraction over another roller coaster any day of the week.

As I get older, my ability to ride wild rides gets less pleasant. I rode RnRC when I was at WDW and it was a one and done for me. I can't do those types of coasters much anymore (even Incredicoaster is a rarity for me). A lot of it has to do with the high G's and inversions. I don't get motion sick on screen based attractions (probably because I play a lot of VR), but coasters do me in.

Of course it's different for many people and even screen based stuff like Star Tours and MF:SR takes a toll on a lot of people and clearly Disney doesn't have to cater to me personally. I think it comes down to use of space and how broad an audience you wish to cater to.

Well maybe my problem is that I haven’t been on a great screen ride. I’ve never been on FOP. Soarin Over California is nice but it’s more about the emotion and score.

It’s funny you say that. That may be starting to happen to me to. I’m turning 40 this August and I’m starting to feel things on Mission Breakout and Incredicoaster that I didn’t used to. I’m trying to tell myself it’s mental but 🤷🏻‍♂️. Instead of anticipating the initial launch in Mission Breakout with excitement I’m praying I don’t have a stroke on the way down.

I’d imagine Rock n Roller coaster is worse than either of those attractions.
 

chadwpalm

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In the Parks
No
Well maybe my problem is that I haven’t been on a great screen ride. I’ve never been on FOP. Soarin Over California is nice but it’s more about the emotion and score.

It’s funny you say that. That may be starting to happen to me to. I’m turning 40 this August and I’m starting to feel things on Mission Breakout and Incredicoaster that I didn’t used to. I’m trying to tell myself it’s mental but 🤷🏻‍♂️. Instead of anticipating the initial launch in Mission Breakout with excitement I’m praying I don’t have a stroke on the way down.

I’d imagine Rock n Roller coaster is worse than either of those attractions.
Heh, yeah.....as early as my mid to late 30's I'd go to a park like Magic Mountain or Great America and I was done be 2pm.......unless you enjoy watching things spew from my body.
 

D.Silentu

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There’s really not as many quality coasters at DLR as you think. If you throw out the off the shelf coasters you're left with BTMRR, Space Mountain, and Incredicoaster. Of which, only 2 are themed. Do we really count Matterhorn as a coaster?
I hear you, but I think our individual definitions might be a little different. Some of the best coasters in the world are also in Southern California, just over an hour away. While I enjoy those, I don't think of them as a fit for Disneyland.
It’s been 43 years since we have gotten a well themed coaster and 45 since the last indoor themed coaster. It’s time.
There's the rub! I would be swayed if Disney built a coaster that was well themed, the ride vehicle contextualized, had excitingly laid out track, and offered more on the ride portion than simply going fast. To that last point, the Incredicoaster doesn't cut it! The thrill ride would have to offer something new, as Cosmic Rewind purports to do. However, I don't think they will or maybe even can check all of those boxes. On the other hand, I feel Star Tours is exciting and I've heard great things about Flight Of Passage; I think a new attraction that stands on their shoulders has a better chance at delivering what I expect from a Disney ride.
 

mickEblu

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I hear you, but I think our individual definitions might be a little different. Some of the best coasters in the world are also in Southern California, just over an hour away. While I enjoy those, I don't think of them as a fit for Disneyland.

There's the rub! I would be swayed if Disney built a coaster that was well themed, the ride vehicle contextualized, had excitingly laid out track, and offered more on the ride portion than simply going fast. To that last point, the Incredicoaster doesn't cut it! The thrill ride would have to offer something new, as Cosmic Rewind purports to do. However, I don't think they will or maybe even can check all of those boxes. On the other hand, I feel Star Tours is exciting and I've heard great things about Flight Of Passage; I think a new attraction that stands on their shoulders has a better chance at delivering what I expect from a Disney ride.

Oh I thought you were referring to Disneyland only. Yeah their are some great coasters in So Cal but my time on them may have come and gone. Disneys coasters are just about the right amount of thrill for me. Incredicoaster is perfect in that regard. I also don’t frequent the other parks in So Cal.

Yeah I’d rather have a new indoor coaster any of the day of the week. Star Tours is cool but I’d never take it over a coaster. FOP sounds like it could be great but I’m just not interested in an Avengers version. FOP probably works so well because of the beautiful scenery. I see enough of the Avengers on my TV screen. I’d rather have a couple AA versions of them with the Avengers sound track playing on a coaster.
 
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DCBaker

Premium Member
"Solo riders looking to save time and money before slinging webs with Spider-Man can now cut to the front of the line of the popular new Avengers Campus attraction if they are willing to be separated from their party or if they are visiting on their own.

Disney California Adventure will offer a single-rider queue starting Thursday, March 24 on Web Slingers: A Spider-Man Adventure for the first time since the Avengers Campus attraction debuted in June, according to Disneyland officials."

 

MarvelCharacterNerd

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"Solo riders looking to save time and money before slinging webs with Spider-Man can now cut to the front of the line of the popular new Avengers Campus attraction if they are willing to be separated from their party or if they are visiting on their own.

Disney California Adventure will offer a single-rider queue starting Thursday, March 24 on Web Slingers: A Spider-Man Adventure for the first time since the Avengers Campus attraction debuted in June, according to Disneyland officials."

Yay for single rider but umm... "looking to save time and money... can now cut to the front of the line" - really? Now there will be three lines of people for the attraction: LL, stand-by & single rider. Both of the other two would feed first presumably with single rider filling in last where there is space, right?
 

No Name

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"Solo riders looking to save time and money before slinging webs with Spider-Man can now cut to the front of the line of the popular new Avengers Campus attraction if they are willing to be separated from their party or if they are visiting on their own.

Disney California Adventure will offer a single-rider queue starting Thursday, March 24 on Web Slingers: A Spider-Man Adventure for the first time since the Avengers Campus attraction debuted in June, according to Disneyland officials."

As a currently single rider myself, I approve.
Yay for single rider but umm... "looking to save time and money... can now cut to the front of the line" - really? Now there will be three lines of people for the attraction: LL, stand-by & single rider. Both of the other two would feed first presumably with single rider filling in last where there is space, right?
“Cut to the front of the line” is definitely an exaggeration but it’s often much much faster than standby. And it makes the other lines a bit shorter so it’s a win for everyone. When I’m at parks with family/friends we almost always use the single rider line.
 

mickEblu

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I would like to confirm that you can indeed tell a CM that you prefer not to sit next to a single rider on an attraction. I did it a couple months back on RSR.

Sorry but not sorry Single Riders. I mean you guys do you and I support your desire to Single Ride but I’m going to also do me. Haha. I spend 2.5 hours to get to and from the parks and stand in lines all day to be on rides for a grand total of probably 20 minutes for the entire day. Some of the rides are seated a bit too intimately to truly enjoy 100% with a stranger next to you.

With that said, a Single Rider on Spider-Man doesn’t bother me because of how you are seated and the nature of the ride but for rides like Space Mountain, RSR and Incredicoaster I’m saying something. It’s also very rare that the situation even occurs on Space or Incredicoaster as I’m rarely riding with a party of 3. But RSR happens often.

I need all the Non Single Riders to stand with me in solidarity and chant : WE WILL NOT SUBSIDIZE OUR EXPERIENCE SO YOU CAN HAVE A SHORTER WAIT, WE WILL NOT SUBSIDIZE OUR EXPERIENCE SO YOU CAN HAVE A SHORTER WAIT!!
 
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