Avengers: Age of Ultron

Gomer

Well-Known Member
The end of Phase Three will most likely wrap up threads that have been going on since the very beginning (all the stuff with the Infinity Stones & Thanos), but it would indeed be silly to assume that the MCU will end there. Especially with all these new characters they're going to introduce.

That being said, Age of Ultron did feel like a bit of a sidestep - which is fine. It provided some character development for underdeveloped characters, offered a great villain and Marvel's signature combination of impressive comic book action and dry humor. I would have appreciated if they slowed it down a bit here and there. I assume they didn't want to turn this into a 180+ minute epic, so a lot had to be cut.
Word is there is actually a 180 min directors cut coming on the blu ray. Whedon had to cut about 40 minutes to get it down to palatable studio size.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Areas I felt the movie was weak... (SPOILER ALERT)




In the start of the Film Iron Man is all gung-ho about the avengers and being one (in contrast to his opposition prior). Then at the end... he just rolls off like he's retiring. Where's the pivot here? Or conflict?

Suddenly the black widow is all and looking for love... another twist that just seems added without integration

We're all about busting hydra... and then they just disappear.

Ultron having this personality and character right from the start... seemed loopy

The final blow to Ultron... uhh.. why didn't you just do that 45mins ago?? If that's all it took... lame 'kill shot'

The lack of addressing thor's hammer and the vision.. they joke about it but Thor.. come on??

We have all these flashbacks from the witch.. but they seem to play more of a roll of setting up other films than actually driving this one (minus Tony's .. which I still have trouble connecting to it motivating him to make ultron)

Thor is the one most driven about the sceptre... yet banner is the one who decides if we get to keep it longer?

The hulk struggles at the end... the love twist with the widow.. helps the movie how? Oh wait, probably tests the water more for an origin movie for the widow

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A reviewer on the radio I heard today nailed it I think. She said something to the effect of 'the movie felt like it was written from a memo

make sure you have
- one of these
- some of that
- throw in a love twist
- and include these guys

That resonated with me because I think it rang true about the lack of a strong story thread that really kept you locked in and made the different scenes necessary.

The action scenes really made me think about Comic book panels at times.. which was neat.. but the core thread holding the movie up for 150mins... lacking.

The best part of the film was plenty of Scarlet J throughout the film and looking at her so intensely
 

Disneyfanman

Well-Known Member
I was disappointed. It wasn't a bad film. It just wasn't a great one. There were some nice moments, and some solid character development, but in the end it wasn't a ton of fun or really very interesting. Maybe it's just me, but it felt like Thor 2 in that CGI battles replaced good storytelling. It also felt like it was a much longer film that was quickly edited to make it shorter. Also I thought Ultron was a poorly executed character.
 

RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
You can get specific seat reservations for a movie???
We have two theater chains near us that do reserved seating Alamo Drafthouse and Cobb. Alamo has servers and full meals as well as snacks. Cobb you still get your food yourself but they have a few choices that are more then the standard movie snacks. Both have beer, wine and mixed drinks. Both have no talking no phone policies as well which is really nice.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Yup.. pretty common now. Especially in theatres with high end seating or food service, DBOX, etc.
I hate those food service theaters. I went to the Downtown Disney Fork and Screen a few times and it was just an awful experience. The wait staff constantly back and forth was extremely distracting.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
I hate those food service theaters. I went to the Downtown Disney Fork and Screen a few times and it was just an awful experience. The wait staff constantly back and forth was extremely distracting.
I don't know why anyone goes to them. No one likes places with average food and lots of screens....
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
We're all about busting hydra... and then they just disappear.
They were never about busting Hydra. The scepter was the whole point. Hydra is too pedestrian of a task for The Avengers.

The final blow to Ultron... uhh.. why didn't you just do that 45mins ago?? If that's all it took... lame 'kill shot'
Honestly were you even paying attention?
Killing one "Ultron body" doesn't kill Ultron because Ultron's code existed in ALL the drones. That's why The Vision had to shut down the Internet before the battle started, so Ultron couldn't excape that way. The "kill shot" was only a kill shot because all of the other drones had already been destroyed. This point was reiterated several times.

It drives me crazy when people complain about plot holes that are, in fact, their failure to understand things that were explained perfectly well.
 

Mickey81

Well-Known Member
I've seen this sentiment kicked around, but I think it's a mistake to assume that Infinity War is going to be any kind of conclusion. Marvel Studios is a functioning film studio now. I doubt they stop making movies (and making money) just because some arbitrarily-defined Phase 3 of films wraps up.
This is spot on. Feige has said they have it planned out until 2028. This basically just prints money. Infinity war will just be an end to a chapter more than some of the other phases.
 

RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
I LOVE them! I go at about once a month. I don't ever want to see a movie outside of an Alamo Draft House ever again. I even take my kids $5 never ending popcorn and they deliver it to our seats. If you sit int he first row of the stadium seating you shouldn't have the staff getting in the way if they are doing their job correctly. They are barely ever in the way in the other seats.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
I LOVE them! I go at about once a month. I don't ever want to see a movie outside of an Alamo Draft House ever again. I even take my kids $5 never ending popcorn and they deliver it to our seats. If you sit int he first row of the stadium seating you shouldn't have the staff getting in the way if they are doing their job correctly. They are barely ever in the way in the other seats.
That sounds much nicer than the AMC Fork and Screen. Those theaters are very flat (not stadium seating) and a never-ending popcorn would require you to borrow against a HELOC.
 

RandomPrincess

Keep Moving Forward
That sounds much nicer than the AMC Fork and Screen. Those theaters are very flat (not stadium seating) and a never-ending popcorn would require you to borrow against a HELOC.

I lied the popcorn is $7. Maybe they raised prices recently or I misremembered it's still a good deal my son can eat a ton of popcorn. I comes in a giant bowl too.

If you are ever near and Alamo give it a try. I know they are hard to find outside of certain regions. Also they take no talking/no phones very seriously. Commercial they air before movies. It has adult language -

 
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Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
It also felt like it was a much longer film that was quickly edited to make it shorter.

Probably because it was.

Too bad they don't do "Road Show" style releases anymore with intermissions, overtures and exit music playing as you leave the theatre. If any movie could bring back that format, it's a guaranteed seller like The Avengers.
 

5thGenTexan

Well-Known Member
I guess I don't get out enough. :) If we go to movies, its usually a matinee on a weekend to avoid crowds. Our days of Friday or Saturday night showings after 9:00 pm are long gone. I had no idea that reservations were even an offering,
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
They were never about busting Hydra. The scepter was the whole point. Hydra is too pedestrian of a task for The Avengers.


Honestly were you even paying attention?
Killing one "Ultron body" doesn't kill Ultron because Ultron's code existed in ALL the drones. That's why The Vision had to shut down the Internet before the battle started, so Ultron couldn't excape that way. The "kill shot" was only a kill shot because all of the other drones had already been destroyed. This point was reiterated several times.

It drives me crazy when people complain about plot holes that are, in fact, their failure to understand things that were explained perfectly well.

No i know all about the 'last body' element... But that wasnt the only time they struggled to match ultron in one on one combat. Tho i think the internet angle is danced around obviously they talk alot about it in his 'escape' but honestly missed something about the vision taking it out. Maybe i had already fallen asleep at that point :p by the time the vision is born i was already just riding the film out. The switch from trying to make a body then to this whole spike thing was like...ooookkkkay.

Maybe it gets better after 3 times or something.... But seems hop and skip in the first pass. Hydra is building this army of bots... Which ultron takes over... Yet ultron choses to destroy by building his planet killing spike in the same spot? And this planet spike was concieved by ultron after he got the antimatium right? Or was the whole flying base and planet killer something he took over?
 

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