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As I understand it, the deal was done without imagineering knowing anything about it and their planning didn't begin until well after the announcement was made. The plans are probably still at the very early stages so nothing has leaked yet.
The only little nugget we've received was (as I recall) a patent Disney filed for a new type of hanging ride system that many people believe could be for Avatar. I did a search on it on these boards and came up empty.
Remember, design and story would need to be complete for the movies first, so with the movies still 4-5 years from release, I doubt they've even completed the script and designing for the movies yet.
The only little nugget we've received was (as I recall) a patent Disney filed for a new type of hanging ride system that many people believe could be for Avatar. I did a search on it on these boards and came up empty.
Remember, design and story would need to be complete for the movies first, so with the movies still 4-5 years from release, I doubt they've even completed the script and designing for the movies yet.
HMButler79
Member
Because Avatar has as much chance of happening as Russia, Switzerland, Venezuela, Spain, and Israel did at EPCOT and Western River Expedition did at MK.
PyroKinesis
Active Member
2 coasters. 5 thrill rides.
I actually hope that's true. I'm happy they're wanting to spend money but there are other things I'd like to see them spend money on (LucasLand, EPCOT Futureworld or Beastly Kingdom to name a few).
I personally don't think Disney needs to be spending hundreds of millions to promote someone else's movie franchise when they have so many of their own that they choose to ignore.
Keep it in-house at the mouse!
GoochDSA
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Lee
Adventurer
Nah....Imagineering knew well before the announcement. Not everyone, but there was a small team working on it months prior. Early design work is well under way.
As for it ever getting built...that will be interesting to see.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I don't know if you know the answer to this or not, but figured I'd ask.
Is this deal contingent on Disney actually getting this land built? I am not sure how much TWDC paid for the rights to this project, but lets say the budget skyrockets and they decide its not worth the investment, is there an easy out for this deal? Could Cameron then move it to Universal if they wanted it?
GLaDOS
Well-Known Member
Don't wish that evil upon Universal!:fork:
If we're lucky, it'll end up at Six Flags so I'll never have to see it.:lookaroun
whitethunder
Active Member
haha
Prototype82
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http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=829729
Something similar to this patent but built in a MUCH more practical manner. Production may look slow but I don't think Disney is going to back out of this project for 2 reasons. Blockbuster soon to be franchise (not that we know how film 2 will do) and Potter's expansion. It will happen. I have faith in that. With Cameron on board I think it will. Time will tell. We just need to accept the fact that Disney goes at a snail's pace with some of this stuff.
Something similar to this patent but built in a MUCH more practical manner. Production may look slow but I don't think Disney is going to back out of this project for 2 reasons. Blockbuster soon to be franchise (not that we know how film 2 will do) and Potter's expansion. It will happen. I have faith in that. With Cameron on board I think it will. Time will tell. We just need to accept the fact that Disney goes at a snail's pace with some of this stuff.
ChristianG
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Agree 100%
It has bothered me that AVATAR is something completely different than Disney.
I'm not saying that everything in the park has to be Disney-fied with "Explorer Goofy" riding Pluto dressed as an elephant. What I am saying is that I just don't like the idea of Disney promoting someone else's movie, as you said.
It just bugs me a bit.
Lee
Adventurer
I'm not sure, but I don't think Disney is on the hook for much money at this point. If anything gets built, Disney will owe Cameron and co. a cut of the mercy sales and a licensing fee.
If nothing is built...no harm, no foul.
I think. I'm not privy to the details of the agreement.
njDizFan
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I most certainly do not have more information than you Lee but I would think Disney had to give Cameron a decent amount of upfront cash to become the "sole" theme park entity with rights to his IP. Also, I think there must be something in the contract that would put a stale date on this merger. If Disney drags their heels for years or decades on this project Cameron must have an out clause so he can then pitch this to Uni or elsewhere.
HMButler79
Member
You seem bitter in most of your posts
Just .....TRUTHFUL. Like certain spirits that wander around here.....:lookaroun
Lee
Adventurer
As I said, I'm not privy to the terms of the deal.
I remember them having a similar deal with Clive Barker several years ago to develop an attraction based on some of his books.
That obviously never happened, and I don't recall there being a big payment as a result.
I think what they have is an agreement to develop a project, likely with a set time frame and expiration date, but that doesn't include really big payments up front.
Similar to a development deal in the entertainment industry.
I'll try to find out.
I remember them having a similar deal with Clive Barker several years ago to develop an attraction based on some of his books.
That obviously never happened, and I don't recall there being a big payment as a result.
I think what they have is an agreement to develop a project, likely with a set time frame and expiration date, but that doesn't include really big payments up front.
Similar to a development deal in the entertainment industry.
I'll try to find out.
Clive Barker? Now THERE'S something that would come off as un-Disney and potentially scarring...
Avatar-land I have no problem with, sure there's other properties I'd like to see first, but it's a name in the public consciousness (should probably check the Box office results from Brazil...)
Not to mention if it brings us a bit of Disney Sea flavoring, I'm down with that too.
Avatar-land I have no problem with, sure there's other properties I'd like to see first, but it's a name in the public consciousness (should probably check the Box office results from Brazil...)
Not to mention if it brings us a bit of Disney Sea flavoring, I'm down with that too.
Random Vids Inc
Member
I'll be happy as long as I can see an AA of Michelle Rodriguez.
Dragonrider1227
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Nothing says Disney magic like hair ______! :lookaroun