AVATAR land construction progress

[Tom]

Could that concrete structure be holding tanks for water that would be recirculated for water falls?

Possibly, but the reservoirs will most likely be located more "backstage". Those walled structures look to be right up in the thick of things.

I am thinking that they are just going to be supports for the rock work façade.

I don't think the walled structures are there as structural support for mountains or buildings. I think they're just lower-level walls, which will be backfilled around and essentially become basements.

They could be utility vaults too, which would logically go underground or on the lower level of buildings.

They could be pump rooms, with the water reservoirs being elsewhere.

 

[RSoxNo1]

With absolutely no numbers to back it up, that scale seems really off.

I stand corrected, just looking at the relative size of Living with the Land to the relative space of Pandora tells me that the boat ride will be smaller.
Pandora: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=28.354806&lon=-81.591181&z=19&m=b
Living with the Land: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=28.373834&lon=-81.552364&z=19&m=b

 

[danlb_2000]

Possibly, but the reservoirs will most likely be located more "backstage". Those walled structures look to be right up in the thick of things.



I don't think the walled structures are there as structural support for mountains or buildings. I think they're just lower-level walls, which will be backfilled around and essentially become basements.

They could be utility vaults too, which would logically go underground or on the lower level of buildings.

They could be pump rooms, with the water reservoirs being elsewhere.

Are you referring to these?

 

[NeXuS1000]

I stand corrected, just looking at the relative size of Living with the Land to the relative space of Pandora tells me that the boat ride will be smaller.
Pandora: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=28.354806&lon=-81.591181&z=19&m=b
Living with the Land: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=28.373834&lon=-81.552364&z=19&m=b

I was surprised as well, but the scale is almost spot-in (I just do a very simple screen copy from google maps at a certain zoom level, re-size the Avatar aerial to match that 1:1, and then pan to LwtL at same zoom level, and use that to compare).

 

[Tom]

Are you referring to these?

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I was referring to anything that looks like poured concrete walls. They're all over, including in that photo.

Concrete walls are not used as a support system, except perhaps for a flooring system that bears on it. The mountain and buildings will be supported by columns that land on actual foundation pads.

The walls we see now will be below grade (given the position of the drain tile that runs around all the buildings), meaning they will serve as basements and/or pits.

 

[roj2323]

I have a feeling the choice was made to lower the grade of the worksite temporarily to ease construction of the foundations/footings. Once all of these are poured I suspect you will see back filling. Doing things this way saves money and it's a safer way to pour deep footings which realistically are caps to the pilings which go much much further down. This tells me the ground sucks and 2, whatever they are building is crazy heavy.

Are you referring to these?

View attachment 75639

Keep in mind the White concrete footing in the above photo is at least 2 feet tall which tells you they are 3 to 5 feet wide in some places. This is by all accounts a massive chunk of concrete meant to hold something that weighs 1,000's of tons.

 

[roj2323]

an interesting view someone threw together:

 

[twebber55]

I stand corrected, just looking at the relative size of Living with the Land to the relative space of Pandora tells me that the boat ride will be smaller.
Pandora: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=28.354806&lon=-81.591181&z=19&m=b
Living with the Land: http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=28.373834&lon=-81.552364&z=19&m=b

what is the approximate size of the construction area for Pandora? is it the same size as DA or Cars land

 

[neoshinok]

what is the approximate size of the construction area for Pandora? is it the same size as DA or Cars land

These are rough estimates of construction area just doing a quick measurement on Google Earth:

Diagon 250,000 Sq Ft
Carsland 460,000 Sq Ft
Pandora 440,000 Sq Ft

 

[twebber55]

These are rough estimates of construction area just doing a quick measurement on Google Earth:

Diagon 250,000 Sq Ft
Carsland 460,000 Sq Ft
Pandora 440,000 Sq Ft

wow thanks
didnt realize it was that much bigger than DA

 

[danlb_2000]

These are rough estimates of construction area just doing a quick measurement on Google Earth:

Diagon 250,000 Sq Ft
Carsland 460,000 Sq Ft
Pandora 440,000 Sq Ft

What did you include in the Pandora measurement, just the areas that we see actually construction on, or all the land that has been cleared?

 

[danlb_2000]

I was referring to anything that looks like poured concrete walls. They're all over, including in that photo.

Concrete walls are not used as a support system, except perhaps for a flooring system that bears on it. The mountain and buildings will be supported by columns that land on actual foundation pads.

The walls we see now will be below grade (given the position of the drain tile that runs around all the buildings), meaning they will serve as basements and/or pits.

I didn't get the impression that those were walls, I thought they were just footers.

 

[neoshinok]

What did you include in the Pandora measurement, just the areas that we see actually construction on, or all the land that has been cleared?

Just about all the cleared land. If you remove the trailer area in the NW it might reduce it by 10-15%

 

[twebber55]

Just about all the cleared land. If you remove the trailer area in the NW it might reduce it by 10-15%

so its safe to say around 400,000 sq feet still 150,000 sq ft bigger than DA which would make it a good size land

 

[Tom]

I have a feeling the choice was made to lower the grade of the worksite temporarily to ease construction of the foundations/footings. Once all of these are poured I suspect you will see back filling. Doing things this way saves money and it's a safer way to pour deep footings which realistically are caps to the pilings which go much much further down. This tells me the ground sucks and 2, whatever they are building is crazy heavy.




Keep in mind the White concrete footing in the above photo is at least 2 feet tall which tells you they are 3 to 5 feet wide in some places. This is by all accounts a massive chunk of concrete meant to hold something that weighs 1,000's of tons.

100% this.

 

[matt9112]

so its safe to say around 400,000 sq feet still 150,000 sq ft bigger than DA which would make it a good size land

keep in mind volume means very little....AK is massive compared to MK for example and has much less to offer...DA is an urban setting and although small is really (huge) and emersive.

 

[twebber55]

keep in mind volume means very little....AK is massive compared to MK for example and has much less to offer...DA is an urban setting and although small is really (huge) and emersive.

oh I agree
I was only comparing the two in size/scope only

 

[gonnichi]

What did you include in the Pandora measurement, just the areas that we see actually construction on, or all the land that has been cleared?

The mostly cleared land south of the construction area seems to be a large area. Is that area going to be used at all for Phase I or is it going to be vacant land? Is this land to the south big enough for lets say a future bike coaster type ride?

 

[danlb_2000]

The mostly cleared land south of the construction area seems to be a large area. Is that area going to be used at all for Phase I or is it going to be vacant land? Is this land to the south big enough for lets say a future bike coaster type ride?

They are installing a new central energy plant as part of this project, I am speculating that it is going to go there.

 

[flyerjab]

One thing that I have always been wondering ever since the leaked blueprints first emerged. Why does the one part of the boat ride go 'inside' the one part of the large show building? Are people thinking that load/unload is taking place there? Or does anyone think that there will be a dedicated "night time" section of the ride? I assume that due to the nature of the bioluminescence of the "natural flora" of Pandora, this boat ride will be quite a different experience visually depending on whether you ride it during the day or at night. I was thinking that for those riding during the day, there would possibly be an indoor section that would act as a permanent night time section of the ride. Maybe this would be one area where the advanced AA Na'vi characters will be staged. You might not want them out in the Florida rain for very long.