S.E.A.
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well to be fair, Titanic was also the highest grossing film of all time for a while but you don't see many theme park attractions dedicated to it.
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AVATAR land coming to Disney's Animal Kingdom
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well to be fair, Titanic was also the highest grossing film of all time for a while but you don't see many theme park attractions dedicated to it.
Speak for yourself, You do not even know what is being built. Do not presume to speak for every body. I am growing weary of the internet.
Zummi Gummi
Pioneering the Universe Within!
Well, to be fair, a theme park attraction about a tragedy where 1,400 people died would be in poor taste.
zooey
Well-Known Member
Did I say I was speaking for anyone else? Go away.
Yankee Mouse
Well-Known Member
Kind of like the movie was imo.
anyway about avatar: I saw it and I didn't like it, well I did like it the first time I saw it and it was called dances with wolves. I am also not a fan of james cameron. That being said, this was obviously a great business move for disney and it will be nice to have another major project, and area to visit, even if I didn't like the movie.
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
Except he said Aladdin fits perfectly despite not being by the.. you know, sea... Sinbad fits the SEA theme... Aladdin takes place in a desert... So how does a desert story fit a sea theme???
His argument is weak... He can dislike the movie he saw twice, paying for it twice, in a theater... That's fine... But his other arguments are solely based on his dislike for a movie and not based in coherent thought...
Crockett
Banned
As a fan base, do WE really know what we want?
We want a major expansion.
But not FLE because that caters too much to princess & little girls.
We didn't like the fact that nothing major was mentioned at D23 back in August.
There isn't enough for older kids in the parks.
Avatar caters too much to older kids in the parks.
We need more Disney-oriented expansions.
But FLE isn't good enough.
Get rid of Stitch & Zazu from the Tiki Room. Now they're gone...but the show isn't what we wanted.
We want Cars Land...but we don't want too much Pixar!
We miss retro-Epcot. Why did they bring back Captain EO?
We want a clone of Tokyo DisneySea for WDW. But we want WDW to stay original and not spounge off other parks...
If you're a Disney exec...stay the hell away from internet forums. It's just not worth it.
SerenityinPA
Member
Best Thread EVER!
Really loved reading everyone's opinion! Negative & Positive!
Ok I consider myself a nerd and this is my 2 cents. :wave:
At first, I didnt know what to think. I watched Avatar ONCE, thought it was ok and have not seen it since or bought any merch for it. The movie hasnt even crossed my mind....I understood its message & loved the graphics but that was it.
But, I do have friends that LOVED the movie, thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread. :brick:
SW & HP,though, I love! I've read the books & watched the movies numerous times. I've gone to Uni & Disney to visit the SW & HP attractions...ETC. IMO these franchises have more staying power & more appeal to the general masses.
So IMO again, I do not think this will trump Potterland.
I wish Disney would focus on what they already have, fix stuff thats broken and work on some original stuff.... but I digress.
Anyway, so when I heard the news I was surprised, because it just didnt seem like something Disney would acquire, although it surprised me that they got Marvel too. :lol: Maybe they are thinking more worldly? It did say this movie was popular in Japan and stuff, right?
So after reading the 1,000+ posts from everyone here, I think my opinion is now this:
For those of you that hate the idea, dont go. There is no one making you go to the new area, just stay to the areas you like. I think most people do that now anyway, right? Everyone has a right to their own opinions & tastes.
Like the others, Im interested to see how they are going to transition an alien planet into Africa or Asia. I mean, its a vastly different world, right? I liked the Austrailia idea better. I think I'd rather go "Down Under" to New Zealand or Austrailia. They could put in a Crocodile Dundee M&G there...:ROFLOL:
But I guess Im glad we are getting an expansion for DAK, right? (sarcasm)
Im not happy about the choice of movie, but I look forward to new innovations in thrill rides, the landscaping, & will wait to see what they do before poo pooing the idea. You can bet when the concept art is released I will be looking at it. When I do go, if I dont like I wont go back, therefore hitting them where it hurts. Their pocketbook. If they change DAK for the worse, I sure wont be going. I'll spend more time at the other parks or Uni when they expand Potterland. I say, Let the Park Wars begin!!
Do I think it fits DAK's theme. Sorry, yes & no. I get the conservation part, but I think of DAK more of like a zoo than anything. Maybe Im part of the problem? Maybe they realize that and are trying to make it a Theme Park again? Bring in the teens?? I can see that.
So am I excited? More no than yes :veryconfu
But I do have some questions:
I dont understand how they can put a restaurant here. :veryconfu What food could they possibly sell?!?
I think a dark ride/rollercoaster would be about the only attraction they could put here. The other ideas thrown around by some people here just dont seem like they could work. What could they do with the rest of the land? Based on that, I just dont see this being a very big "Land" or having a lot of attractions. Maybe I need to watch the movie again... :hammer:
Really loved reading everyone's opinion! Negative & Positive!
Ok I consider myself a nerd and this is my 2 cents. :wave:
At first, I didnt know what to think. I watched Avatar ONCE, thought it was ok and have not seen it since or bought any merch for it. The movie hasnt even crossed my mind....I understood its message & loved the graphics but that was it.
But, I do have friends that LOVED the movie, thinking it was the best thing since sliced bread. :brick:
SW & HP,though, I love! I've read the books & watched the movies numerous times. I've gone to Uni & Disney to visit the SW & HP attractions...ETC. IMO these franchises have more staying power & more appeal to the general masses.
So IMO again, I do not think this will trump Potterland.
I wish Disney would focus on what they already have, fix stuff thats broken and work on some original stuff.... but I digress.
Anyway, so when I heard the news I was surprised, because it just didnt seem like something Disney would acquire, although it surprised me that they got Marvel too. :lol: Maybe they are thinking more worldly? It did say this movie was popular in Japan and stuff, right?
So after reading the 1,000+ posts from everyone here, I think my opinion is now this:
For those of you that hate the idea, dont go. There is no one making you go to the new area, just stay to the areas you like. I think most people do that now anyway, right? Everyone has a right to their own opinions & tastes.
Like the others, Im interested to see how they are going to transition an alien planet into Africa or Asia. I mean, its a vastly different world, right? I liked the Austrailia idea better. I think I'd rather go "Down Under" to New Zealand or Austrailia. They could put in a Crocodile Dundee M&G there...:ROFLOL:
But I guess Im glad we are getting an expansion for DAK, right? (sarcasm)
Im not happy about the choice of movie, but I look forward to new innovations in thrill rides, the landscaping, & will wait to see what they do before poo pooing the idea. You can bet when the concept art is released I will be looking at it. When I do go, if I dont like I wont go back, therefore hitting them where it hurts. Their pocketbook. If they change DAK for the worse, I sure wont be going. I'll spend more time at the other parks or Uni when they expand Potterland. I say, Let the Park Wars begin!!
Do I think it fits DAK's theme. Sorry, yes & no. I get the conservation part, but I think of DAK more of like a zoo than anything. Maybe Im part of the problem? Maybe they realize that and are trying to make it a Theme Park again? Bring in the teens?? I can see that.
So am I excited? More no than yes :veryconfu
But I do have some questions:
I dont understand how they can put a restaurant here. :veryconfu What food could they possibly sell?!?
I think a dark ride/rollercoaster would be about the only attraction they could put here. The other ideas thrown around by some people here just dont seem like they could work. What could they do with the rest of the land? Based on that, I just dont see this being a very big "Land" or having a lot of attractions. Maybe I need to watch the movie again... :hammer:
walee
Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by zooey
I'm honestly devastated by this. I can deal with NOT visiting this stupid land when it eventually opens, but it just shows how out of touch the Disney company is with their base. They have no idea what we want, and more so, they want to force this garbage on us. They want to appeal to boys with a PG-13 movie about blue aliens who have ______ with their hair. Just appalling. I don't see this happening as they presented it today. How can they be so stupid? How can they be so out of touch? They could put that money into beastly kingdom or another one of their own properties, or South America, or Australia, and they give us this trash! Something nobody wanted. The gall.
OMG I READ I THIS LIKE YOU WERE CHRIS CROCKER DEFENDING BRITNEY SPEARS LMAO!!! CALM DOWN, All the problems in the world and your getting hyped up over this? LOL, I truly evny you then if this is the biggest issue in your life, I mean Seriously?
LEAVE DISNEY ALONE!!!
Originally Posted by zooey
I'm honestly devastated by this. I can deal with NOT visiting this stupid land when it eventually opens, but it just shows how out of touch the Disney company is with their base. They have no idea what we want, and more so, they want to force this garbage on us. They want to appeal to boys with a PG-13 movie about blue aliens who have ______ with their hair. Just appalling. I don't see this happening as they presented it today. How can they be so stupid? How can they be so out of touch? They could put that money into beastly kingdom or another one of their own properties, or South America, or Australia, and they give us this trash! Something nobody wanted. The gall.
OMG I READ I THIS LIKE YOU WERE CHRIS CROCKER DEFENDING BRITNEY SPEARS LMAO!!! CALM DOWN, All the problems in the world and your getting hyped up over this? LOL, I truly evny you then if this is the biggest issue in your life, I mean Seriously?
LEAVE DISNEY ALONE!!!
Crazy Harry
Active Member
Ok, but here is the problem with this argument. Avatar is not just about conservation. Animal Kingdom is not just about conservation either. If we are going to argue that Avatar is perfect for AK based solely on the message of conservation, then we have to ignore all of the other aspects which are associated with both. If we are going to do that, then a film like Wall-E would fit at AK because that is also about Earth conservation.
But wait a minute!!! Wall-E has all of these things like space travel and robots that don't belong in AK (which correct me if I am wrong but so does Avatar). Ok, so we DO have to consider the other aspects to determine if it is a good fit in AK. We can't say that Wall-E doesn't fit because of the aspects beyond conservation, yet ignore simular aspects in Avatar and focus solely on the conservation aspect. This is a double standard which simply does not stand.
Let us also analyze the name of the park: Animal Kingdom. Animal is pretty self explanitory, and Kingdom would refer to their environment. And animal kingdom is indeed full of recreations of natural environments of the many animals contained and depicted. Of course, there are plenty of things that are real that are not included in the park for obvious reasons. The beleif that aliens are real or are responcible for anchient arcitecure does not mean their inclusion in the park is legitimate. And aliens are from other planets where as animals, even mythical ones, are based on creatures of this planet, which is the kingdom refered to in the name of the park.
Think of it this way as well; Africa, Asia, and Pandora??!! Is Pandora Earth-like, yes it is. It is also a far off planet not on earth, with creatures not of this earth, integrated into a park only pertaining to the places and creatures of this Earth.
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
Because YOU don't want it means Disney is out of touch??? Should Bob Iger and Tom Staggs consult you for now on and build what zooey wants for now on??? I see plenty of people on here who DO want this... And here is a wake up call for you...
DISNEY CARES ABOUT THE 17 MILLION PEOPLE WHO VISIT, NOT THE 1,000 RABID FANBOYS ON SOME FAN INTERNET SITE!!! if they did, the rabid Adventurer Club fans would have their funspot back already...
I know, that is to hard for rabid fans to understand... Disney cares about the MAJORITY not the minority on some fansite...
Scuttle
Well-Known Member
Yeah, well you know that's just like uh your opinion man.
FigmentJedi
Well-Known Member
It's not like the land is a direct translation of Agrabah though. There's elements of it, but again, it's more of a general "Arabian Nights" theme using Aladdin as an anchor of sorts. It's like saying Ariel's Undersea Adventure doesn't belong in the new Fantasyland because Prince Eric's Castle is in the middle of the woods rather then facing the ocean coast.
Bairstow
Well-Known Member
Wait, are we now discussing whether or not ancient Baghdad should be considered part of "Arabia" or whether or not Sindbad was Persian instead of Arabian?
S.E.A.
Member
it took me forever to read this whole thread but that's not at all what I gathered from his posts. You're getting it mixed up with the other purely anti-Avatar posts.
Figment571
Member
Um,
With Dinosaur you are gradually introduced into the science fiction element and it serves as away of having direct encounters with the dinosaurs. The setting, The Dino Institute is set in present day, or by the way Dr. Marsh is dressed the late 90's but that is neither here nor there.
Pandora and the setting of the Avatar film/films is the distant future where the Earth is all but paved over. It is a science fiction that is in the far future making it less tangible in Animal Kingdom in relation to the other lands. In fact the reason that humans are on Pandora in the first place is that they have basically ignored the message the rest of the park is preaching.
I am not ignoring the name of the park, only its inclination to be a display of the natural elements of this planet. Also I'm not excluding animals that aren't old enough, I'm excluding animals that haven't existed in our solar system. For instance if they made a Star Wars attraction that showcased the animals of that universe in Animal Kingdom I would be against it.
This record means little in terms of the long term popularity of a property.
While this is true I don't believe Pandora is an environment that people will be able to identify with in the long run. After a while I think it will just become "the blue people" land. It may be impressive but it doesn't have staying power imo.
Bairstow
Well-Known Member
Here we go again with the arbitrary rules.
Looks like we'll need to bulldoze Tomorrowland because it's the only Magic Kingdom land not themed around the past.
JustInTime
Well-Known Member
Since we know that one of the sequels will take place under da sea, what about the Ocean aspect of it? Or better yet, perhaps a World Of Color type attraction based on the 3 films? I think the potential here is amazing.