News Avatar Experience coming to Disneyland Resort

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

They should probably break ground on the third before worrying about space for another

Plus any addition attractions beyond the Multiverse ride to Avengers Campus would be a long way off considering what Disney has on their plate now.

 

[Gusey]

They could always do a Grand Avenue style tunnel like they have for Galaxy's Edge at Hollywood Studios

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

They could always do a Grand Avenue style tunnel like they have for Galaxy's Edge at Hollywood Studios

If Avatar is going in that spot, that would probably be the best option.

 

[Disney Irish]

They could always do a Grand Avenue style tunnel like they have for Galaxy's Edge at Hollywood Studios

If Avatar is going in that spot, that would probably be the best option.

Seems to me that would be a waste of usable space in that area to do a tunnel. Unless they somehow incorporate shops or something into the tunnel to make it a usable space, now that is an idea.

 

[britain]

Seems to me that would be a waste of usable space in that area to do a tunnel. Unless they somehow incorporate shops or something into the tunnel to make it a usable space, now that is an idea.

Agreed, other than Galaxy’s Edge and Carsland, DL rarely takes up space with big portals. They transition really quickly (Holly Jolly Bakery to Tiki room) or subtly (Bengal BBQ to River Belle).

 

[mickEblu]

Agreed, other than Galaxy’s Edge and Carsland, DL rarely takes up space with big portals. They transition really quickly (Holly Jolly Bakery to Tiki room) or subtly (Bengal BBQ to River Belle).

How are we defining portal? I consider both of the main entrances to Cars Land as portals. That back path from Avengers Campus not so much. For me portal implies going under or through something with an immediate change in scenery.

At Disneyland I think the Adventurleland, Frontierland, Tomorrowland (even though it’s sloppy with astro Orbitor), Fantasyland, Toontown and GE entrances are portals.

DCA’s portals aren’t as obvious as the park was originally themed to only California so it’s really the rethemed lands and additions that come across as portals. Cars Land, Avengers Campus and to a lesser extent- San Fransokyo. Essentially though I’d say every main entrance to a land is functioning as a portal. Some are just less obvious like Hollywoodland when it’s not such an abrupt/ distinct change in scenery. Even Grizzly Peaks transition is rather subtle as you are already seeing the rock work from the hub and there is nothing about that topography (at least from that angle) that seems foreign to a place like Burbank (California) where we have mountains, boulders and trees and can be found all across the state.

Hollywood Blvd to a Pandora beach/ jungle could feel very much like the Disneyland hub to Adventureland then maybe you turn a corner for a grand reveal of what we saw in the concept art.

 

[britain]

How are we defining portal? I consider both of the main entrances to Cars Land as portals. That back path from Avengers Campus not so much. For me portal implies going under or through something with an immediate change in scenery.

At Disneyland I think the Adventurleland, Frontierland, Tomorrowland (even though it’s sloppy with astro Orbitor), Fantasyland, Toontown and GE entrances are portals.

DCA wasn’t designed with clearly defined portals so it’s really the rethemed lands and additions that come across as portals. Cars Land, Avengers Campus and San Fransokyo. Essentially though I’d say every main entrance to a land is functioning as a portal. Some are just less obvious like Hollywoodland land when it’s not such an abrupt/ distinct change in scenery. Even Grizzly Peaks transition is rather subtle as you are already seeing the rock work from the hub and there is nothing about that topography (at least from that angle) that seems foreign to a place like Burbank (California) where we have mountains, boulders and trees and can be found all across the state.

Hollywood Blvd to a Pandora beach/ jungle could feel very much like the Disneyland hub to Adventureland then maybe you turn a corner for a grand reveal of what we saw in the concept art.

Yes, of course we could call any threshold a “portal.” I was reserving the term for a very thick archway or tunnel that really says “You are leaving one place, and when you get to the other side of this tunnel, you will be in another place.”

The theme of the portal itself could be tied to the place you are going to (Main Street entrance tunnels, the Castle), or the place you are leaving (Frontierland entrances to GE).

But most of the other transitions across the DL resort are not handled via what I would call a portal. There may be signage on an arch, but it’s not a tunnel through time and space. (I don’t call AL, FL, or TL entrances portals. They are just entrances.)

 

[mickEblu]

Yes, of course we could call any threshold a “portal.” I was reserving the term for a very thick archway or tunnel that really says “You are leaving one place, and when you get to the other side of this tunnel, you will be in another place.”

The theme of the portal itself could be tied to the place you are going to (Main Street entrance tunnels, the Castle), or the place you are leaving (Frontierland entrances to GE).

But most of the other transitions across the DL resort are not handled via what I would call a portal. There may be signage on an arch, but it’s not a tunnel through time and space. (I don’t call AL, FL, or TL entrances portals. They are just entrances.)

I agree that lands where you are going through a tunnel or under a bridge or arch fit more neatly under the definition of a portal but I also believe that the other lands I mentioned are functioning like portals as you walk under an arch where there is a pretty abrupt and distinct change in scenery. They’re the original theme park portal. Haha.

 

[britain]

In the context of the Pandora discussion, I don’t think an Adventureland-style arch would be enough of a portal to solve people’s problems. I think the suggestion really was to do a DHS style Grand Avenue tunnel from Hollywood to Pandora.

I personally don’t mind if they simply have a sign on an arch, because that is typical at Disneyland.

 

[mickEblu]

In the context of the Pandora discussion, I don’t think an Adventureland-style arch would be enough of a portal to solve people’s problems. I think the suggestion really was to do a DHS style Grand Avenue tunnel from Hollywood to Pandora.

I personally don’t mind if they simply have a sign on an arch, because that is typical at Disneyland.

I don’t see how it’s much different from walking off the main path into Avengers Campus or Cars Land? Well, I guess what makes it different is that you are smack dab in the middle of land. I don’t think that necessitates a tunnel per se. Maybe just more of a meandering path while the theming is ramped up? But then why not just put up a tunnel in that case? I don’t know. I guess it depends on what they re going for and if they plan on leaving those Hollywood Blvd facades up. It’ll be interesting to see what they do.

 

[britain]

I don’t see how it’s much different from walking off the main path into Avengers Campus or Cars Land? Well, I guess what makes it different is that you are smack dab in the middle of land. I don’t think that necessitates a tunnel per se. Maybe just more of a meandering path while the theming is ramped up? But then why not just put up a tunnel in that case? I don’t know. I guess it depends on what they re going for and if they plan on leaving those Hollywood Blvd facades up. It’ll be interesting to see what they do.

It will probably depend on how badly they DON’T want guests inside Pandora to see any hint of Hollywood. Which is probably very badly.

 

[mickEblu]

It will probably depend on how badly they DON’T want guests inside Pandora to see any hint of Hollywood. Which is probably very badly.

Maybe. It’s not Disneyland. Do they care as much? Take Mission BO for example. Granted, they didn’t have much of a choice when the mandate for a Marvel attraction came down. But I guess they didn’t have to make it such of an eyesore. I get what Rohde was going for though. He was going bold, doubling down instead of trying to hide what obviously doesn’t fit.

 

[Basketbuddy101]

Maybe. It’s not Disneyland. Do they care as much? Take Mission BO for example. Granted, they didn’t have much of a choice when the mandate for a Marvel attraction came down. But I guess they didn’t have to make it such of an eyesore. I get what Rohde was going for though. He was going bold, doubling down instead of trying to hide what obviously doesn’t fit.

I think it wins the award for ugliest exterior for an attraction by a country mile.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Looks fine to me.

 

[britain]

Maybe. It’s not Disneyland. Do they care as much? Take Mission BO for example. Granted, they didn’t have much of a choice when the mandate for a Marvel attraction came down. But I guess they didn’t have to make it such of an eyesore. I get what Rohde was going for though. He was going bold, doubling down instead of trying to hide what obviously doesn’t fit.

It’s almost like Rhode said, “You guys think the Maliboomer was the tacky drop ride? I’ll show you what TACKY looks like! BAMM!”

(The “PRESENTATION!” Megamind gif could have worked here too.)

 

[Disney Irish]

How are we defining portal? I consider both of the main entrances to Cars Land as portals. That back path from Avengers Campus not so much. For me portal implies going under or through something with an immediate change in scenery.

At Disneyland I think the Adventurleland, Frontierland, Tomorrowland (even though it’s sloppy with astro Orbitor), Fantasyland, Toontown and GE entrances are portals.

DCA’s portals aren’t as obvious as the park was originally themed to only California so it’s really the rethemed lands and additions that come across as portals. Cars Land, Avengers Campus and to a lesser extent- San Fransokyo. Essentially though I’d say every main entrance to a land is functioning as a portal. Some are just less obvious like Hollywoodland when it’s not such an abrupt/ distinct change in scenery. Even Grizzly Peaks transition is rather subtle as you are already seeing the rock work from the hub and there is nothing about that topography (at least from that angle) that seems foreign to a place like Burbank (California) where we have mountains, boulders and trees and can be found all across the state.

Hollywood Blvd to a Pandora beach/ jungle could feel very much like the Disneyland hub to Adventureland then maybe you turn a corner for a grand reveal of what we saw in the concept art.

I just don't think they'll do a long meandering path or huge tunnel for Avatar in HWL like they did for GE. Space in that area is already at a premium and to waste it on a long path or a huge tunnel just seems like something they wouldn't do. Which is the only thing that gives me pause about this Avatar in HWL rumor. If they were going to do that it would be better to do it in the Simba lot section of DLForward so they could do the long path or huge tunnel transition that some here thinks this needs.

Otherwise it could just be a threshold portal like the entrances of Adventureland or Frontierland from the DL Hub with BVS acting as the Hub. Which is why I think HW Blvd is likely not staying, at least not all of it.

 

[mickEblu]

I just don't think they'll do a long meandering path or huge tunnel for Avatar in HWL like they did for GE. Space in that area is already at a premium and to waste it on a long path or a huge tunnel just seems like something they wouldn't do. Which is the only thing that gives me pause about this Avatar in HWL rumor. If they were going to do that it would be better to do it in the Simba lot section of DLForward so they could do the long path or huge tunnel transition that some here thinks this needs.

Otherwise it could just be a threshold portal like the entrances of Adventureland or Frontierland from the DL Hub with BVS acting as the Hub. Which is why I think HW Blvd is likely not staying, at least not all of it.

Meandering was probably the wrong word. I was picturing something like the Frontierland/ Fantasyland paths into the GE tunnels. But yeah I believe the rumor was Smoozies is gone so I’d imagine the facades from Smoozies to the end of the street are gone (on that side) which I’m ok with. I would just like the appearance of a street to remain from the hub with the trolley still going up and down.

 

[Disney Irish]

Meandering was probably the wrong word. I was picturing something like the Frontierland/ Fantasyland paths into the GE tunnels. But yeah I believe the rumor was Smoozies is gone so I’d imagine the facades from Smoozies to the end of the street are gone (on that side) which I’m ok with. I would just like the appearance of a street to remain from the hub with the trolley still going up and down.

When I think of a meandering path, I think of the Critter Country to GE path and I think that is too much wasted space for this. And to build a whole berm tunnel like for the Frontierland/Fantasyland paths into the GE also just seems like too much wasted space for me. Heck there has been discussion that they could have kept Big Thunder Ranch and still had a transition into GE with how much space that berm tunnel area wasted.

I think whatever they are going to do it would have to work on both HW Blvd and Sunset Blvd entrances, unless they close one of them. Which is why Hyperion probably goes so that transition from Sunset Blvd can happen.

 

[mickEblu]

When I think of a meandering path, I think of the Critter Country to GE path and I think that is too much wasted space for this. And to build a whole berm tunnel like for the Frontierland/Fantasyland paths into the GE also just seems like too much wasted space for me. Heck there has been discussion that they could have kept Big Thunder Ranch and still had a transition into GE with how much space that berm tunnel area wasted.

I think whatever they are going to do it would have to work on both HW Blvd and Sunset Blvd entrances, unless they close one of them. Which is why Hyperion probably goes so that transition from Sunset Blvd can happen.

Yeah I’d agree. Not because the length of the path itself necessarily but because a path like that implies a lot of place making along the path which takes up even more space. I mean was the Bugs Land entrance from TOT bad? I thought it was rather charming. Some sort of canopied entrance with foliage and tall bamboo and boom you’re there.

A tunnel on the other hand doesn’t really have to mean a lot of wasted space. Think Super Mario Land at USH.

I don’t think I understand why the Hyperion would have to go though?

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah I’d agree. Not because the length of the path itself necessarily but because a path like that implies a lot of place making along the path which takes up even more space. I mean was the Bugs Land entrance from TOT bad? I thought it was rather charming. Some sort of canopied entrance with foliage and tall bamboo and boom you’re there.

A tunnel on the other hand doesn’t really have to mean a lot of wasted space. Think Super Mario Land at USH.

I've never been to any Universal Park, and have no desire. I've seen the commercials however for Nintendo World, and if its like the commercials which has the tunnel at more than a few feet long, that is too much wasted space in my opinion. You could build a retail shop or quick service in how long that tunnel looks in the commercial. But if its only a few feet then maybe its fine, but again I don't think a huge berm wall is needed here. And I imagine whatever they do it would move the entrance up to where the sidewalk is now. And still have the Trolley run in front of it.

I don’t think I understand why the Hyperion would have to go though?

Other than the fact that was part of the rumor, it would be in prime real estate for additional Avatar related stuff that could be built, ie you could put potentially multiple things in that space. It would be isolated from everything else that was "HW". My opinion is either it goes with Avatar or it goes with Avengers Campus.