AVATAR breaks ground

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I'd take a Lion King dark ride any day. I set my sights lower with just a restaurant (Beauty and the Beast style) but a dark ride would be even better.

There are plans to have "flex" restaurant in Pandora that will be counter service for lunch and table service for dinner. IMHO, they probably need another sit down restaurant in the park if they want to have people stay all day -- or at least set up direct transportation (not a bus, more like a train or monorail) to AKL to use those restaurants as additions to the park the way that the monorail resorts' restaurants are used as an adjunct to MK's food offerings.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
I can tell you for sure that people want more photo ops. Both my kids are married now and when we go to Walt Disney World they usually invite other families along. One young family that came had a five year old daughter and all she wanted to do was Photo Ops. Her parents told me that they would not have come along if their daughter had not talked them into visiting the princesses. I do not get standing in line to meet "fill in the name", but every family we have went with that has young kids spent half the time in the park getting pictures with characters.
 

twebber55

Well-Known Member
Not many people would.

But would you fly to Florida to break ground on what is SUPPOSED to be one of the most ambitious theme park projects of the past 15-20 years? A project that is based on your IP? I think I probably would.
again, to me, ceremonial ground breaking means very little..its something you put on the parks blog....grand opening and i would expect James Cameron, Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldano, Sigorney Weaver etc to show up
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
again, to me, ceremonial ground breaking means very little..its something you put on the parks blog....grand opening and i would expect James Cameron, Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldano, Sigorney Weaver etc to show up
Exactly, some sort of ribbon cutting ceremony would be a bigger deal. Flipping sand with a silly shovel, not so much. Are people actually trying to use Cameron's absence as a way to pile on more reasons to hate this project? That's silly.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
So wouldn't that suggest there is less stuff going into the conversion to Pandora. Unless this Morpho project is split into two separate SFWAMD permits?

Not necessarily. The new permit shows and additional 4 acres of buildings in the area where CMM currently is which is likely the Avatar part of the project. The Everest permit shows 2.64 acres of impervious material only some of which is buildings which one mean Avatar is going to have more enclosed building space then Everest.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Exactly, some sort of ribbon cutting ceremony would be a bigger deal. Flipping sand with a silly shovel, not so much. Are people actually trying to use Cameron's absence as a way to pile on more reasons to hate this project? That's silly.

I don't hate or like the project at the moment. What does the project even entail?
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
I don't hate or like the project at the moment. What does the project even entail?
No one truly knows, outside of concept material. My only point is that quite a few posts here are focused on an apparent concern that if Cameron couldn't make it to this dirt tossing ceremony that it somehow means something. I think that's looking far deeper into a scheduling conflict than necessarily warrants attention.
 

SirLink

Well-Known Member
Not many people would.

But would you fly to Florida to break ground on what is SUPPOSED to be one of the most ambitious theme park projects of the past 15-20 years? A project that is based on your IP? I think I probably would.

Exactly.

again, to me, ceremonial ground breaking means very little..its something you put on the parks blog....grand opening and i would expect James Cameron, Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldano, Sigorney Weaver etc to show up

It shows more the fact they needed to do one.

Exactly, some sort of ribbon cutting ceremony would be a bigger deal. Flipping sand with a silly shovel, not so much. Are people actually trying to use Cameron's absence as a way to pile on more reasons to hate this project? That's silly.

See @xdan0920 post.

Not necessarily. The new permit shows and additional 4 acres of buildings in the area where CMM currently is which is likely the Avatar part of the project. The Everest permit shows 2.64 acres of impervious material only some of which is buildings which one mean Avatar is going to have more enclosed building space then Everest.

OK it was when your comment about Dinosaur that made me do a spit take...
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I just did a quick estimate on the size of the show building for the simulator ride shown in the leaked blueprints. One of the plans does appear to have a scale on it but the numbers are to small to read, so I am estimating the scale from the size of a single door which would normally by 36" wide. Based on that the show building is roughly 336' square which would be 2.6 acres.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
No one truly knows, outside of concept material. My only point is that quite a few posts here are focused on an apparent concern that if Cameron couldn't make it to this dirt tossing ceremony that it somehow means something. I think that's looking far deeper into a scheduling conflict than necessarily warrants attention.

I think it's more of a "one more" strange thing about the groundbreaking, and overall strangeness of this project from the get go.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Honestly, the popularity of these seem to be mostly due of lack of good rides that are available. almost all good rides have huge lines...in the supposed calm day we went (september-october), Pirates had a 40 minute waiting line.


For first timers.. yeah.. the meet and greet are a must! (for me it was Chip and Dale at AK, Merida at Magic Kingdom, Lightning McQueen and Wizard Mickey at Hollywood Studios)



Ahem, isn't there a forested zone that divides the back of the tree of life and the railroad line? It honestly would suck to see that cut down.
the "Forest" feeling AK gives is what makes it special.. specially around Camp Mickey and Africa.
For kids you don't have to be a first timer. They are popular. There are tons of rides at MK yet the princess hall still has hour long waits. It's not just the less popular parks.

I like trees as much as the next guy but give me more attractions at DAK. I really hope they don't hold back to preserve forest land. They can plant new trees around the show buildings.
 

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