Attendance drop in the parks... I wonder why

Andrew C

Andrew C

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21stamps said:
Wow. Crazy. How does that even break down assessment wise?
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I was being a bit dramatic. It isn't a big deal and I think it is kind of a wash. I pay taxes to the county my home is in. And I also pay taxes to the county next door where our school district resides in.
 
Dad 2 M & M

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Goofyernmost said:
Two things:

First... I'm not sure it actually has dropped significantly if at all really.
and
Second... If it is true it is probably because god wanted it that way.

Are there any other questions?
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Yes, was wondering what is the first thing people say when entering the parks?
 
networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
Andrew C said:
some in Texas have to pay property taxes to two counties...like me... :(
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We're in that boat. One ranch is in Parker, the other is in both Parker and Jack. Texas is different as you get assessments from ISDs, library, hospital, and even community colleges. Not to mention recommend donations to the local VFD if you don't want them to sit at the edge of your property and make sure that the fire on your place doesn't catch something on fire that pays supporting donations.
 
dmatt87

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21stamps said:
I almost came back to edit and add the Olympics and Hurricane Mathew. Definitely think those 2 are important ones.
I can't imagine that Rivers of Light could impact attendance numbers, I guess a few, but I think most people wouldn't cancel or hold off a trip because of it. Same thing with gators, maybe a few did though.
The price increases may be an impact, but they weren't that substantial. Not a 'make or break' for majority of travels, I would think, again not certain.
Someone above said that they decided to postpone a trip bc of lack of new offerings, but there actually were a lot of new offerings. Even from 2015 to 2016.

It's funny bc earlier tonight I was talking to a friend who just booked a trip. We were discussing our kid's ages and how we feel we're running out of time. Not to enjoy Disney..but for it to truly be "magical" to them.
An 8 or 9 year may say "Cool! Look at that Stormtrooper!" But a 3-4-5-6(maybe even 7) year old are absolutely amazed by them. Extreme Amazement, Magic, Wonderment, and thinking something is "Real" only lasts for so many years in childhood.. People with kids those ages aren't skipping trips because a new land, a new night time DAK show, or new coaster hasn't opened. They are going for their children, and they will pay to see that amazement.
* My limited observations and opinions anyway.
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We were here last in 2011, so enough has change for us to want to come back - and it's my sons first visit in May. However, with prices and all the planning required, I wouldn't come every year.

Bandini said:
I understand what you are saying about WDW, and I would have agreed with you 10 years ago. But for us, it's become too much of a hassle. At this point the hassle and expense, no longer justify the a visit to WDW.

Washington DC and Colonial Williamsburg, Monument Valley and Mesa Verde ( less expensive WDW), Yosemite (Less expensive than WDW) and Vancouver and Victoria BC.

I don't think vacations are necessarily just about the destination. I also think it's the time you spend with your family away from life's daily routines.
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This is why I believe it's good to put WDW in a vacation rotation, every 4 to 6 years.
 
RustySpork

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The drop in attendance was not visible last weekend, it was as busy as ever. Wait times were stupid (MK), and the crowds were awful. Even over Christmas break 2015 it did not feel this packed.
 
Mrhappyplace

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Angel Ariel said:
Why? People can still love Disney, even if they feel a WDW trip may not be a good ROI right now. That doesn't mean the love they've always had for Disney just disappears. This is forum that does welcome people who love Disney, right?
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If I understand correctly you are asking me why is it odd that people who have soured on a WDW vacation would spend large amounts of time posting on a forum for people who love DIsney and would join said forum after they soured on the experiance. If so I'd answer because I'd think they could find better things to do with their time. For the record I never said these people were not welcome here or shouldn't be welcomed here, just that I found it odd that they want to be here.
 
Sonconato

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RustySpork said:
The drop in attendance was not visible last weekend, it was as busy as ever. Wait times were stupid (MK), and the crowds were awful. Even over Christmas break 2015 it did not feel this packed.
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We're not really seeing the drop in crowds either, but perhaps that's because we only go on the weekends. We went to AK over the Martin Luther King holiday weekend (which some people get off but not us :() and the CMs at The Festival of the Lion King said every single show was to capacity, standing room only, and they had to turn people away! We were at AK on Christmas Day and that didn't happen at all.
 
Angel Ariel

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Mrhappyplace said:
If I understand correctly you are asking me why is it odd that people who have soured on a WDW vacation would spend large amounts of time posting on a forum for people who love DIsney and would join said forum after they soured on the experiance. If so I'd answer because I'd think they could find better things to do with their time. For the record I never said these people were not welcome here or shouldn't be welcomed here, just that I found it odd that they want to be here.
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There's a lot more to Disney than WDW. Believing that WDW is not a great ROI right now doesn't mean they aren't interested in the parks, or in Disney business as a whole. I also know quite a few people who do agree that it's not a great ROI, but still do enjoy the parks. They just don't appreciate the increases in prices while getting less for that money. It doesn't mean they love Pirates of the Caribbean any less than they did before.

I guess I just don't agree with the black and white thinking. There's shades of grey, as with all in life. WDW's price increases, FP+, excessive construction, etc have all collaborated to push us away from WDW *for the time being*. We've chosen DLR instead, as we feel it's currently a better experience. That doesn't mean we will never ever return to WDW. It just means WDW isn't right for us *right now*. I'm still interested in it, as I *hope* (as I'm sure many others do as well) that we will feel differently in the future.
 
RustySpork

RustySpork

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Sonconato said:
We're not really seeing the drop in crowds either, but perhaps that's because we only go on the weekends. We went to AK over the Martin Luther King holiday weekend (which some people get off but not us :() and the CMs at The Festival of the Lion King said every single show was to capacity, standing room only, and they had to turn people away! We were at AK on Christmas Day and that didn't happen at all.
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I have quite a few retired friends who go during the week and it hasn't been a whole lot better for them, but it is better. I was there over MLK as well, and it was another insane experience. Not quite last weekend busy, but so busy we didn't stay long.
 

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