Attendance at theme parks continues to skyrocket

The definition is correct, but economic forecasting is done as a study of second derivatives. We are currently in a downturn... and the first quarter of this year is negative.

"experts" may be forcasting the 1st quarter as finishing negative as far as GDP, but it hasnt ended yet. The BEA doesn't publish preliminary GDP data untill the last wednesday or thursday in April.
 

Dayma

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uggg I respect everyone here but I hate going to a WDW site and hearing politics. I know I can not read it. Just stating my opinion :)
 

WildcatDen

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Point made, Mr. Blackride sir.

Just trying to make light of the previous post. Of course the Pelosi comment was well out of line and not condusive to a friendly WDW attendance discussion. My deepest apologies to anyone offended by my comments.

It does make me wonder which side of the aisle Walt sat on, though.
 

earldw28

Member
Definition of Recession: Two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth

Number of quarters of negative growth since the last recession (2000/2001 ish): ZERO...

We are not in a recession!! Don't believe everything you see on TV!


Thank You!! At least somebody here has some sense.
 

slappy magoo

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Actually, you're 100% wrong.

Disney counts day guests as visiting the park they first visit as that park for the day.

So when you go to MK at 9AM, you are an MK day guest. MK gets your park admission money and you're an MK guest for that day, no matter what other park you visit. When you park hop, look back at the turnstyle readout. It says [Already Used], thereby not counting you towards that day for that park.

They keep track of Unique visitors.

So 46,000 people a day on Average. Thats a lot of $.

If that's the case, then thanks. But I gotta figure there are two sets of attendance numbers. Think of it this way, please: I know "Level 5" (or whatever it's called when they literally can not fit anyone else into one of the parks so they refuse entry until some people leave) doesn't happen every day, but when it does, it stands to reason that of all the people who are in the parks, some of them might have started their day in a different park. Now, they might not count for attendance, but they've got to count for attendance or else they risk having too many people in the park at any given time. So in a sense, each park would have two sets of numbers: Unique visitors & total visitors. The total numbers would be more impressive, and if you wanted to impress people, you'd use the more impressive number. NOt saying it definitely happens, and I know you're saying they only release unique visitors, so I'm wrong.

Unless I'm not. ;)
 

Montyboy

New Member
Definition of Recession: Two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth

Number of quarters of negative growth since the last recession (2000/2001 ish): ZERO...

We are not in a recession!! Don't believe everything you see on TV!

As a previous poster noted, we will not know if we are in a recession until April... and that will only be the first of the two quarters.
 

hokielutz

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Universal's rumored roller coaster they are putting in USF. Definitely going to add some competition.


competition??

Puh-lease! Harry Potter and the Simpsons are not the answer to US's fledgling attendance numbers, just like Shrek's affiliation with US didn't make them competitive.

These are only my opinions.
 

grunter

Member
competition??

Puh-lease! Harry Potter and the Simpsons are not the answer to US's fledgling attendance numbers, just like Shrek's affiliation with US didn't make them competitive.

These are only my opinions.

Uh, no. Harry Potter is in a completely different league when it comes to synergistic marketing opportunities. I'm a diehard Disney fan, but even I would consider making a special trip to Universal Florida to see the new Harry Potter addition. Disney was insane not to add that property to their repertoire.
 

hokielutz

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Uh, no. Harry Potter is in a completely different league when it comes to synergistic marketing opportunities. I'm a diehard Disney fan, but even I would consider making a special trip to Universal Florida to see the new Harry Potter addition. Disney was insane not to add that property to their repertoire.


You can't say they were insane not to add it, because you don't know the terms of whatever talks there were. It may not be as profitable of an addition to the Disney parks. How much control would Disney have over the design and ideas? What would have been the liscensing costs? What is the Return On Investment for Disney? Also how does adding HP compare to adding some "In-House" attractions? Look what EE did for the AK the last two years.

Also, this goes back to you can't judge a book by its cover. How exactly US will incorporate HP is anyone's guess as of now. An 8% to 10% increase for a couple years in US's current park totals is possible with the addition, but I don't think it will make those parks that much more competitive. (based on similar totals to AK)

And I can't wait for the new Univ Studios commercials to come out when Harry Potter and Simpsons is complete:

"Why be a yucky princess ... when you can be an all powerful witch?"
 

nerdboyrockstar

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Uh, no. Harry Potter is in a completely different league when it comes to synergistic marketing opportunities. I'm a diehard Disney fan, but even I would consider making a special trip to Universal Florida to see the new Harry Potter addition. Disney was insane not to add that property to their repertoire.

Disney wouldn't know what to do with it. They have Star Wars (STAR WARS!!) and look at what's there.

One attraction more dated than Body Wars.
 

Disneyfan1981

Active Member
I'm really shocked to read that DCA out did IOA.....the last three times I hit up DCA it was bare with hardly any wait for anything while the last two times I went to IOA it was so busy that most rides had over a 2 hour wait......
 

nerdboyrockstar

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I'm really shocked to read that DCA out did IOA.....the last three times I hit up DCA it was bare with hardly any wait for anything while the last two times I went to IOA it was so busy that most rides had over a 2 hour wait......

It depends on the time of year you went to both, obviously, but California Adventure has about 25 rides and attractions, compared to Islands of Adventures' 20. Not sure if that makes a difference.
 

Glasgow

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It sure would be a lot easier if Disney would just connect all of their parks with the monorail .. that right, ALL OF THEM!! ha
 

Glasgow

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Excellent! And at the low low price of 4 bagillion dollars. Maybe that's really why they're tearing down POP phase 2 -- for the extra concrete
 

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