Disneydreamer23
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How many Disney fans are going to go to AT AND T now lol
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AT&T Becomes The Official Wireless Provider For U.S. Disney Parks
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flynnibus
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Maybe they can sponsor Spaceship Earth again? And then that old ride can get a decent rehab and finish the descent?
It got an amazing rehab with Siemens... just the decent and some story elements are questionable. But you can't knock them for lack of scale in the redo.
That is a good question. I assuming by the numbers they put out that it is a fairly significant upgrade which should be a boost for everyone using that network. We'll see.Yeah, but how much of that is to support the transition of the CM radios vs guest usage? I'm sure there is lots of beefing up here for guests too.. but the CM transition is huge too. Looking on the bright side... If Disney managed to squeeze AT&T to give up a lot of this work in exchange for sponsorship.. then there is actual hope in it getting done vs Disney funding it alone
flynnibus
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flynnibus
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The first apps were Verizon exclusives.. later opened up to all providers.. and later replaced by the current NGE apps.
and even before that, there were some strong Verizon ties. Going back to the ring-tone days and some early efforts at providing wait time info.
flynnibus
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The problem is not IP bandwidth really - it's Radio bandwidth. And I can't stop chatty apps from trying to use the network without being on the device itself. I can block the IP traffic... but that point, the chatty app has already taken time and bandwidth on the radio network between the client and the AP.
The problems with Wifi in high densities is the fact that it's all Radio.. and Wifi is still a collision detect/sense technology.. which means...there is no explict control of who is allowed to broadcast. Each device listens for an opening, and then talks. This means the more clients you have, the more contention and collisions you have, performance and efficiency drops.
Managing the radio bandwidth is the challenge.
dreamfinder
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True, but by some of that is minimized by some of the new specs for wireless. Both on the AP side, as well as the client side. 11ac spec allows for multiple devices to share the radio at once that the older specs would let a single device monopolize. But yes, you do reach a saturation point of diminishing returns.
CRO-Magnum
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Verizon had ponied up to invest $1B in building out a mobile Disney experience. They offered a subscription service that NOBODY used and hence Verizon pulled out and Disney went mobile dormant for several years until late 2012. Here's a link to media coverage of the annoucement: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/cache_carey/2008/11/walt-disney-par.html
Lord_Vader
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Yeah, but how much of that is to support the transition of the CM radios vs guest usage? I'm sure there is lots of beefing up here for guests too.. but the CM transition is huge too. Looking on the bright side... If Disney managed to squeeze AT&T to give up a lot of this work in exchange for sponsorship.. then there is actual hope in it getting done vs Disney funding it alone
I would expect much of the cast equipment to use private WiFi networks that are not broadcasting and are capable of providing more than enough bandwidth to support infrastructure.
flynnibus
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First, broadcasting SSID or not has nothing to do with the problems of managing available Radio bandwidth - they all use the same radio frequencies. Doesn't matter if you have 2 separate networks, or 100 - the same interference/chatter problem persists. This is a layer 1/2 problem... which in wireless is shared across different networks. For their private networks, I'm sure they'll allocate some channel space to only be used for internal uses to minimize interference with the guest accessible networks.
Second, the topic referenced was about Disney moving away from their Sprint PPT radio network to the new AT&T network and devices for their in-park radios. See this thread - http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/sprint-nextel-radios-leaving.863136/
If this is the case, partnering with AT&T is the worst choice that they could have made. Pretty much all of the other carriers have much, much, much better 4G networks.
bethymouse
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My experience w/ Verizon at the parks has been touch and go.
I don't agree - AT&T looks to be delivering some very solid LTE performance. This was taken at Epcot
http://www.wdwmagic.com/other/iphon...p2012-iphone-5-demo-photos-at-epcot/16526.htm
WDWVolFan
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Funny is that I was leaning towards AT&T from Sprint and then my company just signed a deal with Verizon and will no longer offer discounts with other cell companies other than Verizon, so I was leaning towards Verizon but this Disney thing now has me wondering especially after hearing folks pointing out that the rest of the world is GSM.
Lord_Vader
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First, I never stated that broadcasting was the solution, only that they can build a private network that would not interfere or be affected by guest WiFi at the parks.
The AT&T agreement most likely includes a provision that many universities use in that wireless data traffic from certain approved devices is off-loaded locally from the tower to Disney networks and is given a higher priority in return for access and exclusivity. As such, Disney incurs no data charges and can use proprietary WiFi based apps for voice communications for castmembers including transportation.
The AT&T agreement most likely includes a provision that many universities use in that wireless data traffic from certain approved devices is off-loaded locally from the tower to Disney networks and is given a higher priority in return for access and exclusivity. As such, Disney incurs no data charges and can use proprietary WiFi based apps for voice communications for castmembers including transportation.
Lord_Vader
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I agree completely, my experience with 4G on AT&T last Christmas was nothing short of spectacular. My only worry right now is that as more and more users flood the network with brand new 4G/LTE devices the network will slow to a crawl.
But, even at home I get consistant 24Mbps up and down while most Verizon users experience something around 12Mbps at best.
flynnibus
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The whole GSM argument is about the last generation of phones anyway.
tissandtully
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flynnibus
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Your post was akin to me telling you about the solutions for vapor dissipation in confined spaces. It's not relevant to the discussion you responded to. The comments about the CM network were about the migration of CM radios to AT&T - not wifi. The whole announcement is about the cellular networks - not wifi.