Article on AOL about FP+

DaGoof00

DaGoof00

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Good article…

I did have to stop and think what AOL was at first though, haha, i had no idea they were still around :p
 
Dwarful

Dwarful

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I still have my AOL. I don't really use email too much anymore, mostly at work and that is through my work email. I've just never had a reason to change my email.
 
Stupido

Stupido

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I haven't been keeping up with the whole FP+ thing. I have a couple questions. 1) Is it still at select resorts? 2) Is it still in random testing mode? 3) If so, when and where are the next tests scheduled for? 4) And is there any way to track testing periods, to see if there's a chance of being selected?
 
docdebbi

docdebbi

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Original Poster
jagiord1 said:
I haven't been keeping up with the whole FP+ thing. I have a couple questions. 1) Is it still at select resorts? 2) Is it still in random testing mode? 3) If so, when and where are the next tests scheduled for? 4) And is there any way to track testing periods, to see if there's a chance of being selected?
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FP+ is in effect in all parks. day guests may reserve that day with their admission ticker and using a kiosk in the park. WDW resort guests can book online up to 60 days ahead and can use the mobile app to make and or change reservations. apparently, according to a poster above, swan and dolphin are about to be included to make reservations early and this may expand?? hadn't heard about that

annual passholders without a resort reservation, may book up to 7 days of FP+ beginning 60 days out, and add a day when they have used up a day.

so not really in "testing" anymore, it's a done deal.
 
George

George

Liker of Things
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flynnibus said:
It's not..

In case anyone hasn't noticed... NFC on phones hasn't exactly taken off. Probably in large part due to Apple refusing to do it.
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I was hoping the recent Super Bowl wasn't going to set the NFC up for a run of dominance like there were on in the the not too distant past. However, if they're way ahead of the AFC in phone technology, this is probably a harbinger of repeat dominance, hastening in another era of lopsided Super Bowls.
 
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crazynakedguy

Member
flynnibus said:
It's not..

In case anyone hasn't noticed... NFC on phones hasn't exactly taken off. Probably in large part due to Apple refusing to do it.
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it is. For what it does an App on a phone would have done the job far better and far cheaper.

Seeing as you pretty much need a smart phone to effectively use my magic + it seems even they knew it was outdated.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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crazynakedguy said:
it is. For what it does an App on a phone would have done the job far better and far cheaper.

Seeing as you pretty much need a smart phone to effectively use my magic + it seems even they knew it was outdated.
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This is an overly simplistic and honestly, foolish way to look at it.

1) The system in the linked story doesn't work with existing systems... it requires you to build out the infrastructure, software, and readers... just like Disney had to do
2) the system linked in the story only replaces the physical token the user has (phone vs card or band)
3) hinging your entire technology strategy on consumer technology that you have no control over and only has a 3-4 year life span is incredibly foolish for an entity the size of Disney Parks
4) the usability and requirements around a hotel key card are very different vs something you need to use dozens of times a day and have with you at all times. (how do you think that phone app is going to be while riding the big slide at Blizzard Beach?)

All this story really is about is showing how you can use a phone rather than a token you distribute to your guests. There isn't really barriers to Disney opting for different types of tokens in the future (including customer supplied ones).. so they could go a way like this. But they won't enlarge.. because Disney's NextGen model is much more than simple RFID cards. The ideas around the active transmitters in the bands are not available to people using a RFID token like their phone.

You are looking at one tiny slice, and misinterpreting it at that.
 
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crazynakedguy

Member
flynnibus said:
This is an overly simplistic and honestly, foolish way to look at it.

1) The system in the linked story doesn't work with existing systems... it requires you to build out the infrastructure, software, and readers... just like Disney had to do
2) the system linked in the story only replaces the physical token the user has (phone vs card or band)
3) hinging your entire technology strategy on consumer technology that you have no control over and only has a 3-4 year life span is incredibly foolish for an entity the size of Disney Parks
4) the usability and requirements around a hotel key card are very different vs something you need to use dozens of times a day and have with you at all times. (how do you think that phone app is going to be while riding the big slide at Blizzard Beach?)

All this story really is about is showing how you can use a phone rather than a token you distribute to your guests. There isn't really barriers to Disney opting for different types of tokens in the future (including customer supplied ones).. so they could go a way like this. But they won't enlarge.. because Disney's NextGen model is much more than simple RFID cards. The ideas around the active transmitters in the bands are not available to people using a RFID token like their phone.

You are looking at one tiny slice, and misinterpreting it at that.
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Insulting other posters is against the rules and there is no need for it.
1. That's just it you didn't need to build as much infrastructure if you just made an app
2. agreed
3. Except you don't need to spend 2 billion for an app that can be easily upgraded or changed.
4. Blizzard beach or any of the water parks have no fast pass so you don't need integration

again this is 2 billion wasted on outdated tech. How long till they have to upgrade Fast Pass+?
It is out dated this is a fact. Why do you think not a single other amusement or theme park wants to buy the tech from Disney? They are trying to sell it but no one is buying.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
crazynakedguy said:
1. That's just it you didn't need to build as much infrastructure if you just made an app
2. agreed
3. Except you don't need to spend 2 billion for an app that can be easily upgraded or changed.
4. Blizzard beach or any of the water parks have no fast pass so you don't need integration

again this is 2 billion wasted on outdated tech. How long till they have to upgrade Fast Pass+?
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Your first answer there shows you have zero idea what a product like this is or what it takes to function.. let alone what Disney is doing.
 
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crazynakedguy

Member
flynnibus said:
Your first answer there shows you have zero idea what a product like this is or what it takes to function.. let alone what Disney is doing.
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I am a florida resident and AP holder. I have already used the Fast Pass + system several times. I also work for a software company which makes App intergrations for companies.

Yeah I do know what I am talking about.

again you should probably lay off the insults


But I will admit i don't have any idea what Disney is thinking. I don't know how they could ever think spending 2 billion on this system was a good idea or how it will solve any of the problems that face disney.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

Premium Member
crazynakedguy said:
I am a florida resident and AP holder. I have already used the Fast Pass + system several times. I also work for a software company which makes App intergrations for companies.

Yeah I do know what I am talking about.

again you should probably lay off the insults
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Start making sense then. Anyone with a clue knows that the app itself is just the front-end. Having an app doesn't change the reality of what must be built to support the system in the backend, and all the technology rollout to actually get the readers in place.

This story is simply about instead of using a card handed to you.. you use your phone's RFID chip. The app integratation beyond that is just icing on the cake (doing things like creating associations ahead of time, etc). To infer this shows Disney missed the boat or is building upon outdated stuff is just pure ignorance. It shows a complete lack of understanding of what the actual core elements are and what bits are readily interchangeable or not.

Second, FP+ is only ONE slice of NextGen.. your comment about BB shows you aren't thinking beyond FP+..

Disney didn't spend billions to build out FP+

That's like saying you paid $500 for your iPhone for the text messaging app.
 
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crazynakedguy

Member
flynnibus said:
Start making sense then. Anyone with a clue knows that the app itself is just the front-end. Having an app doesn't change the reality of what must be built to support the system in the backend, and all the technology rollout to actually get the readers in place.

This story is simply about instead of using a card handed to you.. you use your phone's RFID chip. The app integratation beyond that is just icing on the cake (doing things like creating associations ahead of time, etc). To infer this shows Disney missed the boat or is building upon outdated stuff is just pure ignorance. It shows a complete lack of understanding of what the actual core elements are and what bits are readily interchangeable or not.

Second, FP+ is only ONE slice of NextGen.. your comment about BB shows you aren't thinking beyond FP+..

Disney didn't spend billions to build out FP+

That's like saying you paid $500 for your iPhone for the text messaging app.
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Yes they did spend billions its been offiically announced the new system cost 2 billion.

Facepalm If you have an app at most you need is a scanner to scan the bar code generated by the app. Guess what bar code scanners are CHEAP. So cheap in fact every other theme park in the rest of the world uses them with out a problem.

I'm saying its stupid to use RFID technology AT ALL.

RFID tech is outdated this isn't even a question.

Again if you keep insulting me I will report you.
 
Magic Sean

Magic Sean

New Member
crazynakedguy said:
Yes they did spend billions its been offiically announced the new system cost 2 billion.

Facepalm If you have an app at most you need is a scanner to scan the bar code generated by the app. Guess what bar code scanners are CHEAP. So cheap in fact every other theme park in the rest of the world uses them with out a problem.

I'm saying its stupid to use RFID technology AT ALL.

RFID tech is outdated this isn't even a question.

Again if you keep insulting me I will report you.
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I agree with you on this, Disney did not need to use 2 Billions dollars creating this all..
1)They could have cut cost way down if they used existing technology known to work with time saving like simple bar cod scanners for your phone....
2)If they didn't build there infrastructure from the ground up...They could use company's who already have it built. example- Netflix, DropBox, Instagram, Zynga (maker of Farmville) all use Amazons servers to run there software.
3)Yes RFID technology is old but the use of RFID technology is not. That door is just opening, RFID technology with using your phone is going to be used more in life.
 

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