Are Disneyland or WDW fans the most stubborn about trying the "other" park?

Are Disneyland or WDW fans the most stubborn about trying the "other" park?

  • Disneyland fans are more stubborn

    Votes: 23 35.4%
  • WDW fans are more stubborn

    Votes: 24 36.9%
  • Its even

    Votes: 18 27.7%

  • Total voters
    65

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I don’t understand why anyone Would be “stubborn” about going to either?

Disney people like Disney stuff.

Now if it’s a matter of repeating the same commute, meals, drinks, shower times, etc…there’s a word for that

It’s called a “job”
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
How did they make you feel like you weren't wanted? I have been a tourist from the east visiting DL several times and never got that vibe. Quite honestly I never got any sorta vibe at all and last visit had great convos with locals while in line. People seem more relaxed there which I prefer to the some WDW guest vibes of "We spent lots of money to be here and and we EXPECT and DESERVE MAGIC all the time"
It is possible that it was imagined, I know they seemed to be in groups and didn't exactly make like my presence was appreciated. Cold shoulder mostly I guess, but it was a long time ago and I don't remember all the details, it was just how I felt at the time. I'm usually pretty good at reading the room, in person. Or maybe it was because I didn't plan to be there. My original destination for that week was New Orleans, but Katrina beat me there. Plus I really wanted to see the Haunted Mansion original but I got there the day that the Christmas overlay opened with Jack Skellington. I never did enjoy that franchise anyway and it was right after I burnt my arm on a rusty queue pipe switchback that was sitting in the well over 100 degree sunshine. I guess it might have been just an accumulation of things that soured my mood. In Disneyland of all places. Sorry, I guess it is possible that I might have just mis-evaluated.
 

Club Cooloholic

Well-Known Member
It is possible that it was imagined, I know they seemed to be in groups and didn't exactly make like my presence was appreciated. Cold shoulder mostly I guess, but it was a long time ago and I don't remember all the details, it was just how I felt at the time. I'm usually pretty good at reading the room, in person. Or maybe it was because I didn't plan to be there. My original destination for that week was New Orleans, but Katrina beat me there. Plus I really wanted to see the Haunted Mansion original but I got there the day that the Christmas overlay opened with Jack Skellington. I never did enjoy that franchise anyway and it was right after I burnt my arm on a rusty queue pipe switchback that was sitting in the well over 100 degree sunshine. I guess it might have been just an accumulation of things that soured my mood. In Disneyland of all places. Sorry, I guess it is possible that I might have just mis-evaluated.
Oh no reason to apologize. I was once at another amusement park the day a juggalo convention was happening and they all went to the park. But everyone was cool! Sorry about the arm, youch! Anyway give DL another chance sometime. And I think I would pick Nawlins for a weekend over DL many times too. Love that food and music.
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
Only ever done WDW for the last 47 years from the UK mainly because we love Orlando so much. However this year for the first time we're doing Disneyland Paris purely because the car hire for 2 weeks in Orlando is so expensive.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Oh no reason to apologize. I was once at another amusement park the day a juggalo convention was happening and they all went to the park. But everyone was cool! Sorry about the arm, youch! Anyway give DL another chance sometime. And I think I would pick Nawlins for a weekend over DL many times too. Love that food and music.
I went to Nawlins when my daughter graduated from Tulane. Also a couple of parents weekends, but I had the opportunity to go there solo with no one I had to behave for. I probably wouldn't have done anything wild anyway, but I never got the chance to behave in the face of temptation. :angelic:

I also love Nawlins, the food, the music, the general atmosphere makes the place like nothing found anywhere else in the world. I never got the opportunity to go after that and now with my back issues I don't see it as being possible.:bawling: Lesson: never put off something you want to do because life can change in a heartbeat.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
I'd say both are pretty equally stubborn in my experience, and a lot of it boils down to location and habit. I remember years ago on a different forum reading a thread about what people's first Disney park was and whether or not that resort was their favorite. While there were a few outliers, by and large most people who had been to both preferred the one they went to first, and the more they went to that first resort before they went to the second, the more that tended to be true. Heck, even though I'm from the Chicago area my first Disney park experience was Disneyland, and that may well explain my overall preference for that resort over WDW, something that is DEFINITELY atypical for an Illinois resident.

As alluded to above, in my experience, the more people times people have been to their first Disney resort complex (Resort A), the less likely they will be to be receptive to Resort B. Eventually, they will have internalized Resort A so much that A becomes the way everything is supposed to be and B is often just a weird outlier that will never replace A in their hearts. And the less time they spend at B, and the less feedback they take from B regulars before they go to B, the more this becomes true. I see this all the time from both DLR and WDW fans.

Regional associations play a role too. In IL, if you're going to go on a beach or theme park vacation, many will automatically think of Florida whether they've been or not. It's simply engrained within the populace. By contrast, far fewer people have been to California because of its sheer distance from the Midwest. I'd say few people around here truly understand or appreciate the differences between California and Florida, or those between Disneyland and Walt Disney World. Most people around here, if they even know which resort is which, know that the bigger one is in Florida, and since in the US bigger must mean better, why would one ever go to the one in California? I've been told several times by people who've never been to DLR or haven't been in 20+ years that I'd be disappointed by going to Disneyland over WDW, mostly because "it's smaller." While I can't give firsthand accounts, I've no doubt there are plenty of people who live in areas where the default is DLR who don't understand why anyone would want to go all the way to Florida when DLR is right here and has "Walt's touch" all over it. In general, I've found that people who haven't been to both (and even that's not always a guarantee, as I've read and heard some outlandish claims and takeaways over the years from people who "just got back" from a quick first time trip to the other Disney resort) have no real concept for or appreciation for how the resorts differ beyond their size, but can easily find a myriad of reasons (often well-rehearsed from years of use on boards like these) for why they shouldn't try the other park complex.

I think Disneyland fans are guilty of not approaching WDW on its own terms, and fail to embrace the things that make WDW unique compared to its worldwide counterparts, which to me absolutely includes many of the resorts. Likewise, WDW fans are guilty of dismissing all of DLR because it's "only" two parks with a tiny castle, and often fail to appreciate the little touches that give Disneyland Park in particular so much character.

Personally, I think the aversion to "the other resort" that's so common on both sides of the fence is weird. While I suppose I can understand it if you are within, say, a few hour's drive away from one of them, mostly it just seems like a way to arbitrarly exclude the other park, often for flimsy reasons that, to me, should be easy to see through for those who have actually done and appreciate both. I did both US resorts within a year of each other as a child, and when I discovered that there were more Disney parks in other countres, I made it a goal to visit all of them someday. Sometimes I still am confused by the fact that most of the time I seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
My last trip to DL was five days. I planned to spend time sightseeing LA, but ultimately didn't because I ran out of time just seeing the entire DL resort. And this wasn't even my first trip.


As for most unwilling to try the other US Disney resort: out of snobbishness, easily DL fans, out of laziness/habit, WDW fans.
This is probably the most accurate breakdown of the reasons fans don't go to the other resort.

RE: Disneyland trip length, while some of it will depend on interests, I do think that the DLR parks have more going on than might be immediately obvious to someone looking at the resort from afar after only knowing WDW. While I personally don't need five full days (and most people probably don't), I do think there's a case to be made for spending five days at DLR, and I inevitably end up buying five day tickets every time I go. Most of the time, it's not running out of things to do before five days is up that becomes the problem for me-it's simply tiredness and fatigue.
Trying to understand how a WDW vacation is somehow more expensive for some of those who live closer to Florida than California… How?
As mentioned by others, generally speaking costs are higher at World, but even airfare in some situations can also be more expensive. Using myself as an example, you would think that, being based out of Chicago, it would be cheaper for me to fly to Orlando than LA because Orlando's closer, and yet that has seldom been the case for me. Maybe that's a weird geographical quirk that isn't replicated in other regions (or perhaps I'm just uniquely bad at searching for Orlando airfare), but Orlando flights have at best been about *equal* to LA flights in price for me and members of my family.
And you will NEVER run out of things to do in Southern California. You will want three days at Disneyland/California Adventure. There is the beaches, Universal Studios, Hollywood, the studio tours (we did Warner Bros.), Knott's Berry Farm and a little further inland there is Magic Mountain. 9 days we spent there and we just simply ran out of time.

Do it.................at least just once! ;)
This too frequently gets overlooked, and there are SO MANY THINGS to do in Southern California, which should be the actual destination people plan for. While you certainly could make a weekend (or longer than weekend) trip to just DLR, and I've certainly done it myself, it's much more rewarding when experienced as part of a trip to SoCal. The diversity of things to do is staggering, and having been there several times now, I'd say at this point that if you can't find something else compelling to do within two hours of Disneyland, you're just flat out not looking. There are beaches, museums, other theme parks, movie studios, hiking trails, national parks, other cities to explore, scenic drives-there's an absolute plethora of other things to do and explore, and I've gotten into a rhythm with my trips out west, which will include Disneyland, Knott's, potentially USH or Magic Mountain, and always a few things that I've never done before. I find it to be a very satisfying, very repeatable trip.

If there's one thing that I can say is exclusively a product of WDW fan thinking, that I've seen from time to time, that has never made sense to me (although perhaps it's lessened to a degree now that taking a day or two away at UO has become more normalized), it's the idea that a vacation is either 100% Disney or 0% Disney with no in between possible. While it's possible to have a great vacation by just doing DLR, it's also true that Disneyland was never designed or intended to be a one-stop shop in the way that WDW has always billed itself. If there's one thing I wish to impress upon people, it's that Orlando is unique among cities/regions with Disney theme parks in that there's really no other reason to go to Orlando if you're not going to parks, but every other city or region with a Disney resort is home to great non-theme park alternatives and experiences. I mean, you wouldn't fly all the way to Paris to just do DLP and leave, right? People would look at you like a crazy person, deservedly so, because you'd be skipping out on a bunch of great experiences in favor of just dropping into a theme park (albeit a very good one) and leave. The same principle is true in California, a place drowning in excellent things to see and do. There are lots of great things to do in SoCal other than going to Disneyland, and so any trip out to DLR should embrace at least some of them.
 
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Club Cooloholic

Well-Known Member
I went to Nawlins when my daughter graduated from Tulane. Also a couple of parents weekends, but I had the opportunity to go there solo with no one I had to behave for. I probably wouldn't have done anything wild anyway, but I never got the chance to behave in the face of temptation. :angelic:

I also love Nawlins, the food, the music, the general atmosphere makes the place like nothing found anywhere else in the world. I never got the opportunity to go after that and now with my back issues I don't see it as being possible.:bawling: Lesson: never put off something you want to do because life can change in a heartbeat.
More and more cities all start to look the same. Same chain of restaurants, chain of stores, architecture even starts to resemble one another. But then you have New Orleans. So unique.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Only ever done WDW for the last 47 years from the UK mainly because we love Orlando so much. However this year for the first time we're doing Disneyland Paris purely because the car hire for 2 weeks in Orlando is so expensive.
Ummmm…what?

A rental car? Just don’t get one.

And you know you can probably walk/swim to Euro and it’s been open for 31 years, right?
Been busy?
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
Ummmm…what?

A rental car? Just don’t get one.

And you know you can probably walk/swim to Euro and it’s been open for 31 years, right?
Been busy?
Part of our enjoyment of visiting Orlando each year is the ability to drive around and eat at different places and visit new places. Not having a rental car would limit the scope of what we could do so decided to leave it this year rather than have a compromised holiday.

I struggle walking as I have dystonia, so apart from the swimming aspect (which I'm good at) I'd struggle walking to Disneyland Paris :D . I also realise it's been open for 31 years but there's several reasons we've not visited yet.

One is we love Orlando. Disneyworld is so much bigger and we're also big Universal fans and visit the space centre, Orlando has better weather too so always seemed the better option.

Two is the pricing. A three day trip to Disneyland in Paris will cost around a third of the price of a 2 week trip to Orlando. I'm aware that's a statement that might seem doubtful but when you take into account where you're prepared or not prepared to stay, through quite a lot of searching it's about right. Also living in Manchester it's a long drive so we have to fly. I can drive a few hours but my dystonia limits that so realistically flying is the only option. I also required brain surgery a year back and a side effect is fatigue, the drive would be a nightmare rather than a relaxing trip. Whilst at some stage of those 31 years we could have done 2 days at Disneyland, we chose not to because of the cost. We could have afforded it if we'd really wanted to, but it's a personal choice and the price didn't seem worthwhile especially as we've done Orlando practically every year also.

I'm actually looking forward to our October visit. Checked out the town of Bussy Saint Georges and found several restaurants to visit and the train station is close enough to our hotel to walk to with Disneyland only a 7 minute train journey away. Found a couple of places in Disneyland that look fun to eat in and will make reservations 30 days in advance to secure them. Tickets already purchased in case they raise the prices and my wife has listed all the attractions and shows she wants to enjoy. It looks good fun though if it weren't for the car hire situation we'd ideally be going to Orlando for all the reasons stated.
 

Walt Disney1955

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Original Poster
This too frequently gets overlooked, and there are SO MANY THINGS to do in Southern California, which should be the actual destination people plan for. While you certainly could make a weekend (or longer than weekend) trip to just DLR, and I've certainly done it myself, it's much more rewarding when experienced as part of a trip to SoCal. The diversity of things to do is staggering, and having been there several times now, I'd say at this point that if you can't find something else compelling to do within two hours of Disneyland, you're just flat out not looking. There are beaches, museums, other theme parks, movie studios, hiking trails, national parks, other cities to explore, scenic drives-there's an absolute plethora of other things to do and explore, and I've gotten into a rhythm with my trips out west, which will include Disneyland, Knott's, potentially USH or Magic Mountain, and always a few things that I've never done before. I find it to be a very satisfying, very repeatable trip.

If there's one thing that I can say is exclusively a product of WDW fan thinking, that I've seen from time to time, that has never made sense to me (although perhaps it's lessened to a degree now that taking a day or two away at UO has become more normalized), it's the idea that a vacation is either 100% Disney or 0% Disney with no in between possible. While it's possible to have a great vacation by just doing DLR, it's also true that Disneyland was never designed or intended to be a one-stop shop in the way that WDW has always billed itself. If there's one thing I wish to impress upon people, it's that Orlando is unique among cities/regions with Disney theme parks in that there's really no other reason to go to Orlando if you're not going to parks, but every other city or region with a Disney resort is home to great non-theme park alternatives and experiences. I mean, you wouldn't fly all the way to Paris to just do DLP and leave, right? People would look at you like a crazy person, deservedly so, because you'd be skipping out on a bunch of great experiences in favor of just dropping into a theme park (albeit a very good one) and leave. The same principle is true in California, a place drowning in excellent things to see and do. There are lots of great things to do in SoCal other than going to Disneyland, and so any trip out to DLR should embrace at least some of them.

Absolutely. Knott's Berry Farm is actually pretty close to Disneyland, but we just ran out of time. I passed it often on the Freeway and saw the big "drop tower" style ride sticking out. It looks like a fun and to an extent unique place to visit. But we had 9 days, we just ran out of time. 3 of them were spent at Disney, 1 at Universal. And yeah you definitely can't go to SoCal and only visit theme parks. There is just so much more to do. We spent a day at Laguna Beach, which is just so pretty with the hills in the background, and another day at Santa Monica beach, and checked out the Pier and such. Both just lovely. Lots of waves, and even for September I was surprised how chilly the water was, although once you got under it felt refreshing and there were still lots of people swimming.

One thing I regret was not checking out a Dodgers or Angels game. Dodgers especially just because. But the traffic is bad near L.A. and we did other things around Hollywood and such so I just couldn't get there. But the Angels were playing right next to where our hotel was and while I think the Dodgers had a road trip most of our trip the Angels were home. Why as a sports fan I didn't go to a game, I don't know. I should have. I also would have gone to more beaches if we could have. We drove up the coast to Malibu and such, but never went to the beach at Paradise Cove or any other places like Venice Beach or Huntington. I thought Venice beach as we drove by looked like the sketchiest of all of them. Probably why we went to Santa Monica.

If had two weeks in SoCal and still went to Disney I'd fill in the days no problem. Did the Warner Bros. tour but not the Paramount one. Heard the Paramount one was good though. Might do it next time. Took a tour in Hollywood/Beverly Hills. Bought the tickets from a guy right across the Chinese Theatre. He was trying to butter me up a bit but he did tell me that I would make a great action star! haha.

There are things to do in Orlando, but it is a lot thinner without the theme parks. Of course there is the ocean on both sides. You can find little things to do here and there of course but you do revolve your trip around the parks a lot more. I'd say if you go to SoCal the reason you would go there might be 40% Disney, even as a Disney fan. It is higher than that at WDW though.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Part of our enjoyment of visiting Orlando each year is the ability to drive around and eat at different places and visit new places. Not having a rental car would limit the scope of what we could do so decided to leave it this year rather than have a compromised holiday.

I struggle walking as I have dystonia, so apart from the swimming aspect (which I'm good at) I'd struggle walking to Disneyland Paris :D . I also realise it's been open for 31 years but there's several reasons we've not visited yet.

One is we love Orlando. Disneyworld is so much bigger and we're also big Universal fans and visit the space centre, Orlando has better weather too so always seemed the better option.

Two is the pricing. A three day trip to Disneyland in Paris will cost around a third of the price of a 2 week trip to Orlando. I'm aware that's a statement that might seem doubtful but when you take into account where you're prepared or not prepared to stay, through quite a lot of searching it's about right. Also living in Manchester it's a long drive so we have to fly. I can drive a few hours but my dystonia limits that so realistically flying is the only option. I also required brain surgery a year back and a side effect is fatigue, the drive would be a nightmare rather than a relaxing trip. Whilst at some stage of those 31 years we could have done 2 days at Disneyland, we chose not to because of the cost. We could have afforded it if we'd really wanted to, but it's a personal choice and the price didn't seem worthwhile especially as we've done Orlando practically every year also.

I'm actually looking forward to our October visit. Checked out the town of Bussy Saint Georges and found several restaurants to visit and the train station is close enough to our hotel to walk to with Disneyland only a 7 minute train journey away. Found a couple of places in Disneyland that look fun to eat in and will make reservations 30 days in advance to secure them. Tickets already purchased in case they raise the prices and my wife has listed all the attractions and shows she wants to enjoy. It looks good fun though if it weren't for the car hire situation we'd ideally be going to Orlando for all the reasons stated.
Ok…

Gotcha

I withdraw my suggestion.
So you use ECVs?
 

Club Cooloholic

Well-Known Member
This too frequently gets overlooked, and there are SO MANY THINGS to do in Southern California, which should be the actual destination people plan for. While you certainly could make a weekend (or longer than weekend) trip to just DLR, and I've certainly done it myself, it's much more rewarding when experienced as part of a trip to SoCal. The diversity of things to do is staggering, and having been there several times now, I'd say at this point that if you can't find something else compelling to do within two hours of Disneyland, you're just flat out not looking. There are beaches, museums, other theme parks, movie studios, hiking trails, national parks, other cities to explore, scenic drives-there's an absolute plethora of other things to do and explore, and I've gotten into a rhythm with my trips out west, which will include Disneyland, Knott's, potentially USH or Magic Mountain, and always a few things that I've never done before. I find it to be a very satisfying, very repeatable trip.

If there's one thing that I can say is exclusively a product of WDW fan thinking, that I've seen from time to time, that has never made sense to me (although perhaps it's lessened to a degree now that taking a day or two away at UO has become more normalized), it's the idea that a vacation is either 100% Disney or 0% Disney with no in between possible. While it's possible to have a great vacation by just doing DLR, it's also true that Disneyland was never designed or intended to be a one-stop shop in the way that WDW has always billed itself. If there's one thing I wish to impress upon people, it's that Orlando is unique among cities/regions with Disney theme parks in that there's really no other reason to go to Orlando if you're not going to parks, but every other city or region with a Disney resort is home to great non-theme park alternatives and experiences. I mean, you wouldn't fly all the way to Paris to just do DLP and leave, right? People would look at you like a crazy person, deservedly so, because you'd be skipping out on a bunch of great experiences in favor of just dropping into a theme park (albeit a very good one) and leave. The same principle is true in California, a place drowning in excellent things to see and do. There are lots of great things to do in SoCal other than going to Disneyland, and so any trip out to DLR should embrace at least some of them.
I actually think people should try to do some fun things outside of WDW when in Florida. The state has so many unique features, like natural springs, swamps and beaches. We go to the Atlantic beaches every trip now, and always do hikes in the preserves, swim and look for manatees. My wife prefers this to the theme parks and even my kids will admit on some level they have a better time just slowing down and soaking in real things. People are selling FL short if they never leave the Disney bubble.
 
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PiratesMansion

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I actually think people should try to do some fun things outside of WDW when in Florida. The state has so many unique features, like natural springs, swamps and beaches. We go to the Atlantic beaches every trip now, and always do hikes in the preserves, swim and look for manatees. My wife prefers this to the theme parks and even my kids will admit on some level they have a better time just slowing down and soaking in real things. People are selling FL short if they never leave the Disney bubble.
Definitely true. That said, I understand it a bit more when people just do WDW and ignore the rest of Florida because there's so much on property to do and explore. And even Universal and SeaWorld have more to them than their other properties in the US.

At DLR, however, where many people can tour the property sufficiently in three days, and there are only so many things to do outside of the parks themselves, it seems a bit more egregious to me when people just visit the resort and leave.

But 100%, people should explore more around them at both properties.
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
Ok…

Gotcha

I withdraw my suggestion.
So you use ECVs?
No I'm stubborn and usually take prescription medication and walk through the pain. The only time I use a wheelchair is if we fly via a connecting airport to Orlando and have a fairly limited time to catch our connection. Then the nearly always pleasant folks you have at your airports whisk me through a separate line to get me there on time. In the event of a few hour wait I just walk instead. It's not that ECV's or wheelchairs are bad or demeaning and I would never judge others, I guess I just prefer not giving in but it's hard to explain without sounding irrational.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
No I'm stubborn and usually take prescription medication and walk through the pain. The only time I use a wheelchair is if we fly via a connecting airport to Orlando and have a fairly limited time to catch our connection. Then the nearly always pleasant folks you have at your airports whisk me through a separate line to get me there on time. In the event of a few hour wait I just walk instead. It's not that ECV's or wheelchairs are bad or demeaning and I would never judge others, I guess I just prefer not giving in but it's hard to explain without sounding irrational.
Wow…so that’s REALLY tough.

A common - but understandable - thing I’ve always observed over the years is an overestimation of how disability friendly wdw is.
They’ve long really done a great job of retrofitting it…but it was not really built for physical challenges. They’re huge, convoluted and meant to be spacious enough to handle hundreds of thousand every day.

Just springs alone - since the redo - is an unnecessarily long maze of pathways.

And they haven’t done a great job of easing that particular situation…as they have boat docks in mothballs that could help to save some nickels.

I salute you in overcoming it 👍🏻
 

mergatroid

Well-Known Member
Wow…so that’s REALLY tough.

A common - but understandable - thing I’ve always observed over the years is an overestimation of how disability friendly wdw is.
They’ve long really done a great job of retrofitting it…but it was not really built for physical challenges. They’re huge, convoluted and meant to be spacious enough to handle hundreds of thousand every day.

Just springs alone - since the redo - is an unnecessarily long maze of pathways.

And they haven’t done a great job of easing that particular situation…as they have boat docks in mothballs that could help to save some nickels.

I salute you in overcoming it 👍🏻
Yes WDW is disability friendly. We took a friend who uses a wheelchair on our last visit and they were great. Many attractions with her we were told to return at whatever the current standby wait time was and to join the 'lightening lane' point. So a 40 min standby line we'd be asked to return 40 mins later and put in the fast line which seemed more than fair. A few times when I've been with just my wife with us both walking we've been offered an alternate entrance. So one day heading to Spaceship earth I suddenly developed cramp whilst walking and did that weird jumping around in agony trying to 'style it out' and find a relief position and failing on both counts :D . Anyhow a CM approached asking if I was ok and I explained it was cramp and thanked her. She asked if we'd done Spaceship Earth and we said we were actually just walking over to it and I'd had a cramp attack midway. She explained that she worked on it and would we like to use 'The V.I.P. entrance'. We said we'd love to and she took us through the CM entrance at the side. She shouted through "I've got some friends coming through" which I took to mean "Guests coming through so no swearing or inappropriate behaviour". In through a short corridor, through a door and we were straight on the loading platform. Another time in the AK we were in the line for It's Tough to be a Bug and the line passed close to the exit at one point. The CM saw me stop momentarily as I needed to catch my breath and asked if we'd like to follow her for a 'shorter wait'. She basically let us stand with her and when the current show finished she escorted us in through the exit after liaising with a lead. They have some wonderful CM's as do Universal where I've experienced use of the Express line one night that was quiet at HHN for Gringotts.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Yes WDW is disability friendly. We took a friend who uses a wheelchair on our last visit and they were great. Many attractions with her we were told to return at whatever the current standby wait time was and to join the 'lightening lane' point. So a 40 min standby line we'd be asked to return 40 mins later and put in the fast line which seemed more than fair. A few times when I've been with just my wife with us both walking we've been offered an alternate entrance. So one day heading to Spaceship earth I suddenly developed cramp whilst walking and did that weird jumping around in agony trying to 'style it out' and find a relief position and failing on both counts :D . Anyhow a CM approached asking if I was ok and I explained it was cramp and thanked her. She asked if we'd done Spaceship Earth and we said we were actually just walking over to it and I'd had a cramp attack midway. She explained that she worked on it and would we like to use 'The V.I.P. entrance'. We said we'd love to and she took us through the CM entrance at the side. She shouted through "I've got some friends coming through" which I took to mean "Guests coming through so no swearing or inappropriate behaviour". In through a short corridor, through a door and we were straight on the loading platform. Another time in the AK we were in the line for It's Tough to be a Bug and the line passed close to the exit at one point. The CM saw me stop momentarily as I needed to catch my breath and asked if we'd like to follow her for a 'shorter wait'. She basically let us stand with her and when the current show finished she escorted us in through the exit after liaising with a lead. They have some wonderful CM's as do Universal where I've experienced use of the Express line one night that was quiet at HHN for Gringotts.
I get what you’re saying…and I agree they have been great at trying to come up with policies to make it more accommodating. It’s good the PEOPLE make it better…that goes overlooked.

But from a blueprint standpoint…they are not. You’re talking 5 miles of walkways in the big 3…which is just a matter of arithmetic.

The goofy parking lot separation of magic kingdom alone is bizarre.

I’m curious why you don’t find euro accommodating?
 

iamgroot61

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In the Parks
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Those external hotels at DL that Walt hated have turned out to be it's savior. The last time I was in DL was in 2005 at it's 50th Anniversary. I don't remember the street name (I think it was something like Disneyland Drive) had many Good Neighbor Hotels that were way less expensive and were within easy walking distance from the Disneyland entrance.

All we heard this year was how pristine Disneyland park was and yet, without even looking I spotted many broken items like a huge hole in the outside wall as you enter Small World. It didn't look intentional as it was like something had run into it. Yellow tape around part of the stairway up to the Railroad on Main Street. A big chunk out of one of the steps and so on. That alone didn't ruin the park, what was a bigger noticeable problem for me was that I felt like I didn't belong there. It is a locals park and they made it quite clear that outsiders can come in and we will tolerate you, just don't stay to long or attempt to talk to us.

Now I realize that was 18 years ago, but it was my one and only trip and have no desire to revisit DLR. I did spend some time at Universal Hollywood and frankly I would go back to see that again. That was worth it just for the Backlot Tour and the longest esculators I have ever seen in my life. The were there because the place has to levels that you have to see to believe and they were there for utility purposes, but like the WDW Monorail Trains they were also fun.
I have only ever stayed at partner hotels in Anaheim. I have visited the parks long enough to have seen a huge improvement in CM attitudes. Another thing I love about Disney parks is their cleanliness and the general (and possibly naive) sense of safety I feel behind the turnstiles. I have seen the plainclothed security in action there once. We were at the candy store end of the big emporium store in the park on Main St. and there was an altercation. Two families got into a shouting match and suddenly two men were going at each other. Within seconds there were plainclothed security staff on the scene breaking up the fight. Nobody wants to see that kind of misbehavior in the parks, but it was nice to know security was on it. I was from Sacramento when I lived in CA so didn't really consider myself a local visiting DLR/DCA, but I haven't experienced what you described about locals being unwelcoming. I'm sorry to hear you had that experience.

I have visited both US Universal Studios parks. The one in Studio City, CA was originally an actual film studio and the theme park evolved from what was originally a studio backlot tour. Universal Studios park suffers from the same problem Disney does in the area. No room to grow. That's why they have that escalator. LOL! Now the Florida park (like Disney) has lots of room and have done a good job giving Disney a run for their money. I stayed on-property there once and loved being able to take a water taxi to the parks. Love the Harry Potter areas. Love some of the legacy rides (they still have E.T. in FL). The CA park just isn't as fun to me.
 

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