Anyone else kinda disappointed by Turtle Talk?

[EpcotServo]

I recommend taking the escalator (or the elevator for the mobility impaired) to the "observation level". From there, you will find literally thousands of fish in a 6 million gallon environment, the second largest inland aquarium in the country.

Yep, pretty hard to find.

Actually, yes. Pretty hard to find.

I hang out up there everythime I go, and the number of fish in the large tank always seem alot smaller than they used to have. They usually are just in a big group in one spot.

You beat me to the "American Pie" lyrics. It's scary that someone else was on the same wavelength. I was going to try to come up with new lyrics related to the Living Seas, but I'm too tired.

Ah ha! A few people got it.
:lol:

And like I said, I have nothing against the ride and Turtle Talk. It's as soon as you step off those that the real problems begin.

And the annoying blue paintjob it has now.
:brick:

 

[dove_]

In 2006, Turtle Talk with Crush surpassed Festival of the Lion King as the highest rated show attraction, based on guest surveys.

Looks like it's a success. End of thread.

My question wasn't about it's success.

My question was about people's opinion of incorporating more information into Turtle Talk, the way Epcot was originally planned to function.

 

[Frank Stallone]

Crush: Hey little dude, in the blue lid, gotta question?!

Skippy: How fast can you swim?

Crush: About 25 miles per hour, dude! But that's not important, children. Right now I'd like to take a moment to talk about a serious topic. Did you know that the eggs we lay are essential to the success and upkeep of our beaches and sand dunes? Yes, little dudes, it's true. Also, did you know that us sea turtles are endangered? That's right, little dudes. We may all be dead in 10 years, dudes!

Skippy: Mommy, can we leave? This is more boring than Universe of Energy

Crush: Dudes, you can't leave, dudes! EPCOT is for learning! Not for entertainment!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Crush: Hey little dude, in the blue lid, gotta question?!

Skippy: How fast can you swim?

Crush: About 25 miles per hour, dude! But that's not important, children. Right now I'd like to take a moment to talk about a serious topic. Did you know that the eggs we lay are essential to the success and upkeep of our beaches and sand dunes? Yes, little dudes, it's true. Also, did you know that us sea turtles are endangered? That's right, little dudes. We may all be dead in 10 years, dudes!

Skippy: Mommy, can we leave? This is more boring than Universe of Energy

Crush: Dudes, you can't leave, dudes! EPCOT is for learning! Not for entertainment!

Really?:shrug:

 

[majorrfb]

Crush

Turtle Talk is mainly for kids, and they seem to like it. So it's a success.

Epcot is one of my favorite parks with Crush being one of my personal favorite attractions. I love watching the children interact with Crush and amazed by the technology that creates the illusion. I enjoy the corny jokes and humor of the California Crush man. Rock on Dude.:sohappy:

 

[tirian]

I recommend taking the escalator (or the elevator for the mobility impaired) to the "observation level". From there, you will find literally thousands of fish in a 6 million gallon environment, the second largest inland aquarium in the country.

Yep, pretty hard to find.

Yes, they are, considering I've been up there countless times and have yet to see any impressive numbers of fish.

There is, however, a wonderful 6-million-gallon tank full of water and concrete coral.

 

[Frank Stallone]

Yes, they are, considering I've been up there countless times and have yet to see any impressive numbers of fish.

There is, however, a wonderful 6-million-gallon tank full of water and concrete coral.

I'm sorry that 3,000 fish isn't enough. Perhaps I can offer for you some mapquest directions to the aquarium in Georgia, which is the only inland aquarium in the country with more size and fish than the one at EPCOT.

 

[WDFAN1977]

The only thing that disappointed me was that they didn't use it to really teach the kids about anything. I know it's not the place for long, in-depth science lectures, but they did nothing to lead the kids into questions about real animals or the ocean or anything.
:shrug:

Epcot is no longer an educational park. This is evident by the recent E-ticket rides that are more about thrills and less about the future, learning, etc... .

 

[dove_]

Yes, they are, considering I've been up there countless times and have yet to see any impressive numbers of fish.

There is, however, a wonderful 6-million-gallon tank full of water and concrete coral.

I don't recall the exact specifications, but there IS a limit to how many fish you can have per cubic meter or gallon of water. They could very well pack enough fish in there that you would see thousands of them, but the ecosystem would be completely thrown off, and none of those fish would be very happy.

If you're patient, you'll see plenty of fish.

 

[EpcotServo]

Crush: Hey little dude, in the blue lid, gotta question?!

Skippy: How fast can you swim?

Crush: About 25 miles per hour, dude! But that's not important, children. Right now I'd like to take a moment to talk about a serious topic. Did you know that the eggs we lay are essential to the success and upkeep of our beaches and sand dunes? Yes, little dudes, it's true. Also, did you know that us sea turtles are endangered? That's right, little dudes. We may all be dead in 10 years, dudes!

Skippy: Mommy, can we leave? This is more boring than Universe of Energy

Crush: Dudes, you can't leave, dudes! EPCOT is for learning! Not for entertainment!

You know on my first show of Turtle Talk he actually talked about that EXACT subject.

Guess what? People loved it and they spread the word...odd isn't it?
:lol:

 

[ChrisFL]

Where are the real fish, anyway? I hardly see anything but manatees.

(By the way, I like the ride a lot. Please don't :fork: me.)

This is the BIG problem I have with the overhaul of the attraction, a LOT of people can now go through there, without even realizing that there's this MASSIVE AQUARIUM as the centerpiece of the former attraction...now it's merely background at the end of the Nemo ride...and you have go out of your way to even notice it.

That part was the most disappointing to me

 

[tirian]

I'm sorry that 3,000 fish isn't enough. Perhaps I can offer for you some mapquest directions to the aquarium in Georgia, which is the only inland aquarium in the country with more size and fish than the one at EPCOT.

Since you completely missed my sarcasm, I'll explain myself more clearly...but it's still going to sound like I'm contradicting myself (I'm not).

ChrisFL's comment basically summarizes my opinion. I like the dark ride, but I have to admit the aquarium itself no longer "pops" like it used to in the "Living Seas" days. One observation deck does not allow a full view of the aquarium, and few Guests are going to stand around waiting for a portion of the 3,000 fish that are enough for the tank.

Perhaps removing the EAC portion of the dark ride would fix this, since it uses one of the former viewing tunnels. As it is now, other aquariums—especially the one in Georgia—have more viewing areas for their fish.

Anyway, in my opinion, the Nemo overlay is very successful at revamping the pavilion, except for its botched "return to land." The old LS version was embarrassingly outdated. But I do wish that the real fish were more visible after the dark ride.

In the words of Seinfeld, it's a very complicated emotion... :shrug: :lol:

 

[Einselen]

Epcot is no longer an educational park. This is evident by the recent E-ticket rides that are more about thrills and less about the future, learning, etc... .

I agree. Where is the education in Soarin' or Test Track?

 

[tirian]

Epcot was never about education. It has always been about discovering the wonders of the real world. You just sort of get educated by "accident."

 

[CThaddeus]

Epcot was never about education. It has always been about discovering the wonders of the real world. You just sort of get educated by "accident."

I wish more accidents would start happening there again.

 

[Frank Stallone]

Since you completely missed my sarcasm, I'll explain myself more clearly...but it's still going to sound like I'm contradicting myself (I'm not).

ChrisFL's comment basically summarizes my opinion. I like the dark ride, but I have to admit the aquarium itself no longer "pops" like it used to in the "Living Seas" days. One observation deck does not allow a full view of the aquarium, and few Guests are going to stand around waiting for a portion of the 3,000 fish that are enough for the tank.

Perhaps removing the EAC portion of the dark ride would fix this, since it uses one of the former viewing tunnels. As it is now, other aquariums—especially the one in Georgia—have more viewing areas for their fish.

Anyway, in my opinion, the Nemo overlay is very successful at revamping the pavilion, except for its botched "return to land." The old LS version was embarrassingly outdated. But I do wish that the real fish were more visible after the dark ride.

In the words of Seinfeld, it's a very complicated emotion... :shrug: :lol:

Gotcha, I'd have to agree a few more observation areas would be swell, and would be received with pomp and circumstance

 

[Phonedave]

How do they screen for the Crush CM's

I assume first is you have to be able to sound like Crush. Sure the must use some sort of effects bank to make whoevers is speaking sound more like Crush, but I doubt somone like Fran Drescher is going to get the job.

Second - you have to be able to interact and come up with witty responses in real time. All while working the Cruch controlls.

I would think last on the list is the CM's marine knowledge. It is great when Crush answers a question with some scientific fact, but I would much rather hear him make a joke about it, than to give the wrong answer.

-dave