WDWfreak89
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Im still waiting to hear about the globe sinking lol. Anyone have anything on it. Pics,story, or did it really never sink?
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Any boats ever sink in WS Lagoon?
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civileng68
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it sunk
I will say this. I have used that website for years to look things up and I've never seen a "duplicate" problem with ANY photos ive seen from it, and I've maybe looked at a thousand of them.
This is an authentic picture and is not an error by the satellite, now you must make of it what you will.
If the water is only 15 feet deep that would make this picture even more look like the boat sunk because the upper half is seemingly above the water or close to it.
If you look at the track of the boat that is above the water it is ovbiously going AROUND the boat under water, just look at the track.
I think this is an authentic sinking my friends. Yes, Disney would leave it down there if it just happened. They can't remove something like this in fifteen minutes and would wait until the park was closed to do so. From ground level this would not be obvious to tourists.
I will say this. I have used that website for years to look things up and I've never seen a "duplicate" problem with ANY photos ive seen from it, and I've maybe looked at a thousand of them.
This is an authentic picture and is not an error by the satellite, now you must make of it what you will.
If the water is only 15 feet deep that would make this picture even more look like the boat sunk because the upper half is seemingly above the water or close to it.
If you look at the track of the boat that is above the water it is ovbiously going AROUND the boat under water, just look at the track.
I think this is an authentic sinking my friends. Yes, Disney would leave it down there if it just happened. They can't remove something like this in fifteen minutes and would wait until the park was closed to do so. From ground level this would not be obvious to tourists.
niteobsrvr
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They are actually powered by a regular propeller that is capable of turning 360 degrees.
This information is provided by my significant other and former friendship boat pilot.
niteobsrvr
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The significant other has confirmed that no boat has sank.
He also pointed out that if this indeed had happened boats that were still operating would be permitted no where near a sunken object as this photo reflects. And if they did still allow the boats to operate in the area, the site of the sunken unit would have been marked and clearly off limits for safety reasons.
niteobsrvr
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Re: it sunk
No one is questioning whether or not the photo is authentic. I agree it was authentically snapped by whatever means GlobeXplorrer uses. However, these photos are typically manually edited as they are pieced together to complete an image. :brick:
No one is questioning whether or not the photo is authentic. I agree it was authentically snapped by whatever means GlobeXplorrer uses. However, these photos are typically manually edited as they are pieced together to complete an image. :brick:
:wave:JaynMACP96_97_9
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It looks like a few of you already already dispelled this pseudo-myth last month. But two other reasons why Transportation wouldn't leave a Friendship in the lagoon is size and HAZMAT.
The Friendships are floating fuel tanks and if something like this occured i'd guarantee that the World Showcase would be shut down until they could contain any spillage and crane it out and back to where they're kept in dry dock behind China.
Plus, the Friendships are almost always in service and have guests so there really isn't any time that an accident like this could have occured without it being on FL news and websites like this within 6 hours. The only time that the boats are out of service is when we'd be taking them out in the morning or back in at night when guests are finishing eating at the Fine Dining around the World Showcase.
Also the height of it wouldn't leave enough room between the lagoon depth and the displacement of the Friendships that are on lagoon rotation.
Our summer of '97 college program had no crashes or even near-misses. But i know some kids were sent home during programs after ours for being morons and having minor crashes near the Swan and Dolphin.
Every so often, only once on my program, a Friendship will break down, but if you're staying at the EPCOT Resorts and using them to get between the parks, the recovery time is very quick. They always keep an extra Friendship either in rotation or parked alongside France across from the International Gateway Dock.
wdwcp98, who was working when you were on your CP? Was Zeke?Dawn-Marie and Brian were gone right? David Ebler? I worked on the boats for a week during spring break(98) but ended up just doing mostly Illuminations Crowd Control, were you there then?
The Friendships are floating fuel tanks and if something like this occured i'd guarantee that the World Showcase would be shut down until they could contain any spillage and crane it out and back to where they're kept in dry dock behind China.
Plus, the Friendships are almost always in service and have guests so there really isn't any time that an accident like this could have occured without it being on FL news and websites like this within 6 hours. The only time that the boats are out of service is when we'd be taking them out in the morning or back in at night when guests are finishing eating at the Fine Dining around the World Showcase.
Also the height of it wouldn't leave enough room between the lagoon depth and the displacement of the Friendships that are on lagoon rotation.
Our summer of '97 college program had no crashes or even near-misses. But i know some kids were sent home during programs after ours for being morons and having minor crashes near the Swan and Dolphin.
Every so often, only once on my program, a Friendship will break down, but if you're staying at the EPCOT Resorts and using them to get between the parks, the recovery time is very quick. They always keep an extra Friendship either in rotation or parked alongside France across from the International Gateway Dock.
wdwcp98, who was working when you were on your CP? Was Zeke?Dawn-Marie and Brian were gone right? David Ebler? I worked on the boats for a week during spring break(98) but ended up just doing mostly Illuminations Crowd Control, were you there then?
JaynMACP96_97_9
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Well yeah, they aren't quick relative to, let's say Breathless?
But rather were built with the tight waterways/size/training/maintenance in mind.
If one broke down let's say in the channel btw the Swalphin and Studios lagoon, it would only take 5-10mins, at most, for another to arrive.
I miss driving those. If they're still around when i'm ready to retire i think that'd be a great thing to retire to; as many do. There were a few ex-airline captains that work in that area.
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ok well we know its not a friendship, becuase of what others have posted along with something i will add to it. epcot has a a large number of cast members and someone would have said something if this happend to the media or osha.
now my question is what is it? is some type of controls for illuminations i really don't think it was a duplicate of the friendship in the image. could it have been a faster moving service water craft that wasn't in the picture 20 sec later?
The globe sank? i would love to know more
now my question is what is it? is some type of controls for illuminations i really don't think it was a duplicate of the friendship in the image. could it have been a faster moving service water craft that wasn't in the picture 20 sec later?
The globe sank? i would love to know more
JaynMACP96_97_9
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WDW has a 3rd shift comprised of horticulture/maintenance/security etc.. cast members.
If that wasn't an issue, your example would mean that it would have sunk during park hours and therefore everyone would know about it.
The only craft on that lagoon are the two Friendships in lagoon rotation, the Globe barge which is self-propelled, the barge tugs that push the un-propelled other barges and on occasion service/manager craft that wouldn't have that same size.
Actually, something i just realized looking at the pic again is that this is definately a doctored pic. The Friendships aren't painted white on their roofs, they're striped! If you look at the roof of the Friendship pulling into the dock, there's a white stripe painted over it. Because the person who created this knew that it would be too difficult to fake a sunken friendship with a striped roof. Also if you look closely to the stripe of white put on the water, the top left of it has been slightly airbrushed with the closest color to the lagoon water to lighten the definition of the stripe they made. But all that effect did was create the perception that the "sunken friendship" was resting at an angle and not flush with the lagoon floor, which isn't possible in and of itself.
One Friendship is dolphins colors(turquoise/orange), another is red/blue, yellow/orange etc....
BRER STITCH
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I heard from a very reliable source that indeed the boat sank and that THE BODIES ARS STILL IN THERE!!! 
It is these very souls who roam Future World after midnight, changing the calibration of the Mission:Space fuges to make one color more intense than the others each day....
:lookaroun :lookaroun :lookaroun
It is these very souls who roam Future World after midnight, changing the calibration of the Mission:Space fuges to make one color more intense than the others each day....
:lookaroun :lookaroun :lookaroun
thedisneyfan
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Actually, I think that the rooftops look the same to me. I think your doctoring theory is on shaky grounds....errr....water. Notice that it can't be a time lapse issue with the satelite because the boat's placement is not in the normal running path of the boats. Hence, the boat moving to its left. Plus, if it was a time lapse issue, then where is the wake from the sunken boat? I do agree that it would be questionable for Disney to run the boats with such an object submerged as an obstacle, but Disney would try to cover these things up and keep all in the dark, just like their monorail and other incidents.
Things that make you go hmmmmmm!:lookaroun
Again, it is in the path because the friendship boats have 360º motion. They can travel forward, backward and from side to side. The lagoon is not very deep and the boat if sunk would almost certainly stick out above the water. i would be willing to bet that this is just an overlaped image giving the illusion of a sunken boat. Even though disney covered up monorail accidents as best they could we still know thay happened. If a boat sunk in the lagoon we would know about it. Hundreds of guests or cm's would have seen this happen. It's like they say "the only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead."
JaynMACP96_97_9
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Very close pan11435, but they don't have the ability to travel side to side. That would require bow/stern 360 jets.
Picture a clock and really only focus on 12, 3, 6, and 9. The Friendship wheels have suicide knobs attached at exactly 12. So if i'm in the middle of a lagoon at a complete idle rest and were to turn the wheel to either 3 or 9, i'd be going in circles as opposed to side to side. When we're docked and are about to disembark, we turn the wheel down to 6 so that the rope will lose its tension/grip. Depending on which dock we're using for an example here, i'd then either back out away from the dock and then do a 360 turn to head to my next dock, or do a 3-point back out all at once.
I wish i had a video clip of them to shwo you what i mean since that would be alot easier for you folks to understand. I'll take some vid this December when i'm down there again.
People used to raz us and say that the Friendships are on rails because of their ease of maneuverability. But for anyone who knows boats and/or pays attention to dockings of the Friendships they'd realize that isn't the case. When you're new, getting your Friendship to remain flush with the docks outside of EPCOT is a challenge. Because all those docks aren't berthed like the EPCOT lagoon 4 docks are, so if you don't leave the wheel and throttle at the right settings your stern will kick way out. Also, the breathless, a replica of a vintage Chris Craft woodie is available to rent(with driver) at the Y&B and tends to kick up a ton of wake in the Boardwalk and Studios lagoons.
disneyfan said
I'll scan a couple of pics of them from when i worked on them into my album on here. Take a look, I should have them up in the next few hours.
I'm not an expert on Paintshop pro/photoshop etc as many of the folks on these boards are. But as a "layman" i would be able to do what i described(the whiting effects etc.).
But i'd rather enhance pictures for the better than waste time creating urban myths.
