Annoying Guests

[Gucci65]

OMG. That hit home for me. My cousin was a make a wish kid about 10 yrs ago. His wish was to go to WDW. Well since his sister could go (don't remember why), I got to go. We got to the MGM Studios and (don't remember which one) got to go on a backstage tour of an attraction. A family tried to follow us inot the VIP tour. One CM told them what was going on when the dad said "WHY THE HELL DOES THIS "SPECIAL" KID GET TO GET A SPECIAL TOUR? " I wanted to kick his {but}. Mind you my cousin had no hair at the time and has been in a wheelchair since he was born. Reading this post (look above) made me remeber it again.

I can't believe this is the 2nd post on here about some dad being mean about a special needs kid. That's horrible. Those are the types of people who should be escorted out of the park.

 

[Gucci65]

Karma has a way of making this equal. :drevil:

Funny you posted that........I'm a firm believer in what you do - good and evil - comes back to you tenfold.

 

[MSTINKHERBELL01]

I really wouldn't consider this an "ignorant argument". I'm sorry that you and others disagree with my point so vehemently. However, you may have noticed that at no point have I resorted to name calling or any other types of below-the-belt comments about members with whom I've disagreed. Others, however, HAVE made such comments about me simply based on me expressing my opinion. If anything, it's those types of childish responses that make this discussion seem "ignorant".

As far as YOUR comment that more and more Americans are acquiring an "it's all about me" attitude, that was exactly how I felt about Phlydude's issue. To be hung up on not being thanked by parents whose child almost died seems selfish to me. I'm not arguing that what he did wasn't a great thing. I'm glad he did it. And once again, I'm not saying his motive was just to get rewarded. And I would even go so far as to say that it's natural to expect some sort of gratitude from the parents. But at the same time, I think he could have been a little more understanding considering what the parents had just gone through. To use your words...."Good grief!!" We're talking about a child's life here!! Phyldude's issue about not being thanked seems like a plot line from something you'd see on a Seinfeld episode. It seems like a reaction that George Costanza would have.

As far as the fact that the family was out and about after the incident, have you considered that maybe they were just wanting to spend precious time with their child and embrace life? To conclude that this meant they were "obviously over the grief and shock period" (your exact words), seems a little short-sighted to me. If anything, THAT is an example of being ignorant.

Okay, here I go again w/ my opinion. First of all Chapps (no disrespect_ but you werent there...you dont know the family, how they reacted or what they felt...You are assuming as are the rest of us. The only persons present at that time were PHLY, the family, and witnesses.This shouldnt have turned into a BIG DEBATE...Again, this forum isnt the place for this. True, you are entitled to your own opinion HOWEVER it seems to me (my opinion) that you mis understood Phly's intensions and words. The topic is about annoying guest occurances and PHLY told us his... this back and forth thing is ANNOYING. I assume we are all adults....agree to disagree about what seems to me "a misunderstanding of ones story" and MOVE ON W/ THE MAGIC....PLEASE!

 

[HMGhost13]

If I looked over and saw a stranger grabbing my child and pulling her out of a swimming pool, I'm not sure it would initially occur to me that the stranger was actually saving her life.

just to get this off my chest: remind me never to let you babysit children that i may have. I've ALWAYS watched my little brother when we went swimming no matter what, as did my parents, and as you can see i'm NOT his father. if you just "looked over" and were not paying attention to the child, who here is more at fault? the "hero " or the neglant(sp?) parent? THAT'S i find wrong with your posts. aside from everything else, this one quote. not "if i was watching my child" but "if i looked over".

ANYWAY

i've had meetings of annoying guests, my favorite is the one i've told a couple of times here but i feel compeled to tell it again .

My grandfather is 80 years old. he can walk but for only short periods. he comes with us on vacation to WDW for some reason or another..I guess just tog et out of the house, though he spends most of his time in the resort. well, one night we all went to MK and stayed for the fireworks. we're waiting to get onto the bus back to AKL and thislady was in front of us. As soon as she saw the front of the line she saw at least two people on wheelchairs, one being my grandfather. She then proceeded to complain about wheelchair bound people, how they cause problems and should have their own buses. Well, I've got a prosthetic leg and for the first few years when we went to WDW i HAD to use a wheelchair for it was too much walking for me. as years progressed i didn't need to use one but to hear this lady complain like she did, well, it REALLY struck home twofold. I basically sang the who's who are you?" while looking at her, almost as tempting her to say something to me or look my way. but i kept my cool as best as possible and just did that much. really really irked me how she went about that.

 

[DisneyPhD]

I too always wonder if people you meet are board members.

I have told this story before, it wasn't so much rude, as very self centered.

As a mother who has lugged a stroller (and double) all over WDW and even bought small ones just for the trip I found this exchange interesting.

We were coming back from AK when another couple with 2 small kids gets on. The father aruges with the bus driver for a while insisting that their stroller does not fold and therefor she has to "tip" the bus to load it on and strap it in (as you would for a whellechair.) For some reason the driver gives up and does this for the family who then gets on with a peg pergo (it cost +500 by the way, I keep up on these things.) and makes people sitting in the handicap sets move so she can strap in the stroller. The whole process takes over 15 min if not longer while everyone waits. The kids looked like normal development (I am a socail worker, and normally pretty good at spotting any disabilites) and the mother took them out and held them on her lap. She was rather cross looking, I wouldn't want to be married to her. The poor husband seemed very nice and I had to ask him, "if it doesn't fold up, how did you get it to WDW in the 1st place." In informed me the seats do actually come off for stroage. However it really just looked like the stroller was so loaded down with crap they just didn't want to take it out. The father then looked at my much smaller easy to fold double stroller (that was the same brand, but around half the price) and said we looked at those but weren't sure if they would go through door ways ok. (it does just fine by the way.)

 

[HntdMansionFan]

One year when we were at WDW, there were these cheerleaders............. :lookaroun :lookaroun :lookaroun :lookaroun

 

[hcswingfield]

This one went from annoying to being the highlight of the trip:

We were on the seeemingly endless bus ride back to All Star Movies from Downtown Disney. A woman behind us on the bus starts tawlking in a really loud nasal Brooklyn accent about the night before, when she told her son they might be going to concentration camps on these busses, like when Hitler's minions told the German Jews they were being relocated to the country as they loaded up the trains for Auschwitz. Now THAT caught our attention!

Then she segued into her shopping trip to buy clothes for his bar mitzvah. She went on and on in loud detail, repeating herself over and over, ending almost every sentence with "and I never looked back!" "I finally found the right dress, it was mauve not pink, because I NEVER WEAR PINK! and I bought the dress and NEVER LOOKED BACK because it was on sale and fit me well and I asked my sister if she thought it looked pink because I NEVER WEAR PINK! and she said no it didn't it was more of a mauve so I kept the dress and NEVER LOOKED BACK! but what kind of shoes do you get with that? I wanted gold sandles, matte, not shiny, and I looked everywhere......"

Well this monolog went on non-stop for at least 20 minutes. Somewhere in the middle we got tickled by it and tried not to laugh out loud, but in suppressing our giggles we started shaking and vibrating and turning purple. It just got funnier and funnier as we tried not to laugh. Finally the bus stopped at the first All-Star stop and the woman and her friend got up to leave. As they were exiting out the front, the talkers friend turned around to us and said "thank you" and then we lost it. As we burst into hysterical laughter, the entire bus did, too. After they left the bus the rest of the riders started applauding and cheering. And the woman never stopped talking, and NEVER LOOKED BACK!!!!

 

[CHAPPS]

just to get this off my chest: remind me never to let you babysit children that i may have. I've ALWAYS watched my little brother when we went swimming no matter what, as did my parents, and as you can see i'm NOT his father. if you just "looked over" and were not paying attention to the child, who here is more at fault? the "hero " or the neglant(sp?) parent? THAT'S i find wrong with your posts. aside from everything else, this one quote. not "if i was watching my child" but "if i looked over".

Okay, a few things...

1. You're taking what I've said out of context in order to make your point seem stronger. The fact that you have to do that pretty much shows I'm not as wrong as you're trying to make me out to seem.

2. Being offended by my choice of words "looked over", implies that I'm some sort of bad parent unless I maintain constant eye contact with my child at all times. I don't think this is being realistic. On the contrary, if I felt a situation were unsafe enough as to warrant the need to do that, I can assure you my child wouldn't be in the situation to begin with.

3. Your remark, "remind me never to let you babysit children that i may have" was insulting and it hit below the belt. What gives you the right to be insulting, yet I'm being made out to be some sort of enemy here?

4. Your use of the term, "hero " in quote marks implies that you are quoting me. As I stated in an earlier post already, I have not used that term. Phlydude insinuated that I had called him that, which I did not. I would suggest you read my posts more carefully before you write a response that is intended to chastise me.

 

[disneylands]

I would have turned to the parents and said "Excuse me" and pointed at the child and my plate of food. If they had said anything to me other than "Im sorry" I wouldnt have been as nice as you were. It's not the childs fault..it's the ignorant parents. I'm sorry you endured this. My son is 7 and I am very stern when it comes to public behavior and whats appropriate and not appropriate.When people are eating (character dining or not) there is an appropriate behavior.

That is very, VERY good parenting advice right there. I am so happy that there is someone out there who feels that there is a need to control their children in public!:sohappy:

 

[imagineer boy]

I hate it when people accuse you of cutting in line. I was waiting in line to pay for my tray of breakfast at the pop century, when you know those times when you kinda get pushed out of line a little bit. Then one women told me to get to the end of the line because I cutted ( she said it so rudely ) and I argued with her that there was a mistake and that I didn't, but soon everyone else in the line started to join her and started yelling at me to go to the end of the line. I still kept refusing until some guy said "Just get to the F#$%ing end of the line you moron!" I finally decided that it wasn't worth it, and went to another line. I was so mad that I could slam my tray of food in their faces! :fork:

 

[Miss Bell]

We are from the South, and no man sits while making a lady stand.

I am with you on the bus thing--I have seen a parent struggle with an unconscious five year old stand, while teen-agers and perfectly fit adults sit. I know at the end of the day, we are all exhausted, but a little bit of humanity and courtsey would be nice. My husband never sits on the bus, and not to sound old-fashioned or sexist, but I am surprised how many men are willing to let me and other women give up our seats to people in need, before even considering getting up and offering their seats.

 

[Tom]

I am with you on the bus thing--I have seen a parent struggle with an unconscious five year old stand, while teen-agers and perfectly fit adults sit. I know at the end of the day, we are all exhausted, but a little bit of humanity and courtsey would be nice. My husband never sits on the bus, and not to sound old-fashioned or sexist, but I am surprised how many men are willing to let me and other women give up our seats to people in need, before even considering getting up and offering their seats.

I guess I'm an exception to this rule - but only selectively. I am typically a gentleman...I hold doors for ladies, open car doors, allow them to proceed first thru stop signs, etc, etc, etc. But this is in the real world. It is in my opinion that by making the conscious decision to go to WDW, you are implying that you understand that everything is first come - first served. This goes for lines, buses, food, etc. If i were to stand at the entrance to a ride queue and let every lady go first, I'd never get thru the park. Sure, I'll still hold a door for a lady if I'm in that situation, but if I get to the bus stop first after treking thru the park for 14 hours, and get a seat on the bus, I'm pretty much going to plant myself unless it is a severe situation.

If someone is SO pregnant that they need to sit everywhere they are, it just seems silly to me that they'd put themselves through that misery anyway - but I don't think I'm obligated to give up my seat to every person that thinks they need the seat more than I do. That's selfish, in my opinion - you can say that's hypocritical of me, but if my feet are aching so bad I have to keep shifting my weight, and I'm chaffing, and I'm sunburnt and exhausted, I feel that I have equal right to sit down on the bus than ANY other person there. If I'm THAT bad, and I see that I'll be standing on the bus, I'll sit on the bench at the stop and wait for the next one and be in the front of the line (without cutting). I feel that I'm being less selfish there, by allowing at least one more person to ride that bus, who may be in more of a hurry than I - and one more person gets to sit on the bus.

I know I'm going to get yelled and at called sexist or inconsiderate, but I'm FAR from either of those. I just consider myself equal to everyone at WDW, because we all made the decision to go, knowing full well what the conditions are before arriving. Now, like I said, there are exceptions - when guilt or compassion takes over, and I give in - so I'm not 100% coldhearted

 

[Connor002]

I guess I'm an exception to this rule - but only selectively. I am typically a gentleman...I hold doors for ladies, open car doors, allow them to proceed first thru stop signs, etc, etc, etc. But this is in the real world. It is in my opinion that by making the conscious decision to go to WDW, you are implying that you understand that everything is first come - first served. This goes for lines, buses, food, etc. If i were to stand at the entrance to a ride queue and let every lady go first, I'd never get thru the park. Sure, I'll still hold a door for a lady if I'm in that situation, but if I get to the bus stop first after treking thru the park for 14 hours, and get a seat on the bus, I'm pretty much going to plant myself unless it is a severe situation.

If someone is SO pregnant that they need to sit everywhere they are, it just seems silly to me that they'd put themselves through that misery anyway - but I don't think I'm obligated to give up my seat to every person that thinks they need the seat more than I do. That's selfish, in my opinion - you can say that's hypocritical of me, but if my feet are aching so bad I have to keep shifting my weight, and I'm chaffing, and I'm sunburnt and exhausted, I feel that I have equal right to sit down on the bus than ANY other person there. If I'm THAT bad, and I see that I'll be standing on the bus, I'll sit on the bench at the stop and wait for the next one and be in the front of the line (without cutting). I feel that I'm being less selfish there, by allowing at least one more person to ride that bus, who may be in more of a hurry than I - and one more person gets to sit on the bus.

I know I'm going to get yelled and at called sexist or inconsiderate, but I'm FAR from either of those. I just consider myself equal to everyone at WDW, because we all made the decision to go, knowing full well what the conditions are before arriving. Now, like I said, there are exceptions - when guilt or compassion takes over, and I give in - so I'm not 100% coldhearted

though i dissagree with you, i respect your opinion

equality is important, but i believe some practices from yimes passed should be carried on

i won't judge others on their behavior, but i will sill do what i believe as good manners

 

[mousermerf]

If anyone wants to shatter the glass ceiling, start by standing on buses. Holding open the door, standing for women on a bus, etc is all old fashioned and implying weakness of females.

 

[Raven66]

Phyl.........I think you did a great thing for that family. Thank you for saving their child. :wave:

Chapps..........He was saying that the parents weren't even paying attention to the kid in the water. And then later in the week there they were again not watching their child again. If someone saved my daughter the first thing I would do is hug her. And I can be certain the next thing I did would be to hug and thank the person who saved her. I believe he is entitled to get a thank you from them. He saved a child that was "dead". He didn't ask for money or gifts. You need to ease up and stop acting like you are so above him.

 

[CHAPPS]

Phyl.........I think you did a great thing for that family. Thank you for saving their child. :wave:

Chapps..........He was saying that the parents weren't even paying attention to the kid in the water. And then later in the week there they were again not watching their child again. If someone saved my daughter the first thing I would do is hug her. And I can be certain the next thing I did would be to hug and thank the person who saved her. I believe he is entitled to get a thank you from them. He saved a child that was "dead". He didn't ask for money or gifts. You need to ease up and stop acting like you are so above him.

I believe a "thank you" would have been a nice thing to receive from the parents. But I do not believe he is "entitled" to it. And most importantly, if someone's child almost died (whether I was the person who saved the child or not), I would not be so ignorant as to impose my own rules of social etiquette on them and refer to them as "annoying guests". I have to believe there were some real human emotions involved here on the part of the parents. Who are we to say how they were supposed to behave?

 

[Connor002]

ahem

enough with the arguing

each of you has your own opinions, but in the intrest of stopping an argument, it's time to keep them to yourselfes and move on

 

[LoriMistress]

A year ago, my boyfriend and I were eating our lunch at Crystal Palace. We were sitting at a table for two and there was a divider to my left separating our tables from the other row of tables. Well, this one brat, who was probably around 5 or 6 kept standing on the booth, lean up against the divider and lean his head back. Well since our table was directly on the other side of the divider, he finally did what were afraid would happen. He dunked his head right into my boyfriend's plate of food and got a head full of mashed potatoes in the process. And it was full of food since we just got back from the buffet line. Well, no apology from the family that was starring right at us. My boyfriend, very upset, pushed his plate forward, crossed his arm and said " Well, now I lost my appetite". Then thinking the family would feel bad and finally apologize, they had to the nerve to say, "Well this is a children's restaurant in case you haven't already figured out. If you did not want to deal with children, you should have asked for a table by the window or gone somewhere else to eat". All I could muster was, to my boyfriend, "Did she just say what I think she said!" What i really wanted to say is, if you would raise your child properly then I would be able to eat where I please considering I paid just as much for my vacation as you did and we deserve to eat our breakfast without hairs and a big dent in it thanks to your child. Then the waiter comes back with a new glass of orange juice since we noticed ours was missing. He said he had to bring him a new one because while we were at the buffet the same kid came over unsupervised and drank out of my boyfriends glass and put it back on the table! By that time we had enough and asked to see the manager. The manager was very nice and comped his meal which my boyfriend felt bad about since it wasn't the restaurants fault, but we took it anyways. Then he gave us a ticket to get free ice cream at The Plaza. Needless to say, I have not been successful in convincing him to eat lunch there since for the last 3 times we have gone!! I don't have a problem with kids, I just have a problem with parents who think their kids can do no wrong, even when they do right infront of them.

I have abosolutely no problems with confronting people...expecially when they are in the wrong. I don't know if I could have controlled myself...I would have probably gotten all "Uma" on them.

 

[redsfan4life]

I think it is safe to say that the majority of us people posting are with you phlydude

 

[tigger_rox00]

worst 15 min. of my life

Oh man...i've seen a few. My absolute favorite was on ToT. We were in the shaft just before the drop and all the house lights came on. Well, after being stuck for maybe 5 minutes, this lady starts freaking out and was screaming because she hated elevators and started to say a few choice words. After hearing all that I let her know that I didn't appreciate her choice of words:zipit: and she told me that she was "gonna get outa here", and proceded to get herself out from under the safety restraint. Now by the time she started to get herself free of the restraint, 10 min. had passed and I thought i was gonna loose it. She started to stand up in the elevator:brick: and another gentleman asked her to sit down because she was making him nervous and I agreed. Then the announcement came on that the ride was going to start back up momentarily and she hurried back to her seat (the very back middle). Well...she started to freak out because she couldn't get back into her seat belt. Now I started to panic because I knew that if the ride did start up again and drop us, this lady was gonna get seriously hurt. So I called 911 from my cell phone (I know it is a little over the top, but it was the first thing into my mind). After talking to the operator for maybe a minute, a bellhop came up to escort us down:sohappy: because the ride was down. A miracle in my opinion. He was very upset that she had "freed" herself and asked her to calm down, then proceeded to let us out. She then said a few more choice words to the bell hop and he took us down the stairs. It was byfar the worst 15 minutes of my life. I love to tell the story. It is funny now, to me at least, but then it really stressed me out.

TTFN