Annoying Guests

[SheenaXena]

This was back in 1999, it's funny how I still remember it. It's really kind of funny, in a way. But, I was 17 years old at the time. We were at EPCOT, watching a parade. I was standing next to my sister, when this old woman that was behind us, elbowed me and shoved me out of her way, and actually got in FRONT of me. I just stood there with my mouth open for a minute and had to just walk away. All she had to do was ask me to move over a bit because she couldn't see, but no, she would rather be rude, and hurt her way to the front. And I thought that Disney World was supposed to be for the kids, even if they're 17 years old!!! I'll never understand stupid people.

 

[Night_Aaron]

Well this post will give away a little too much about my job but I'll try to be good. I was signing autographs when a "Make a Wish" kid politely came to the side of my line and waited. The greeter noticed this family and asked the next people in line if they wouldn't mind waiting for just a second while this child came to see me. The father in line said,
"Why should this kid get to go to the front of the line?"
The greeter went over and told him that she would explain it to him later when the child wasn't around. He responded,
"I don't care if this kids dying. My kids special too! We payed $55 to get into the park!"

I couldn't believe what he was saying. First, it was the Oasis at DAK so he actually hadn't even gone into the park yet but how could someone say that in front of this family? It made me sick. It was nearing the end of my set so I took an extra long time with the Make a Wish family and then just left that awful man there and walked inside.

 

[LouDisney]

Well this post will give away a little too much about my job but I'll try to be good. I was signing autographs when a "Make a Wish" kid politely came to the side of my line and waited. The greeter noticed this family and asked the next people in line if they wouldn't mind waiting for just a second while this child came to see me. The father in line said,
"Why should this kid get to go to the front of the line?"
The greeter went over and told him that she would explain it to him later when the child wasn't around. He responded,
"I don't care if this kids dying. My kids special too! We payed $55 to get into the park!"

I couldn't believe what he was saying. First, it was the Oasis at DAK so he actually hadn't even gone into the park yet but how could someone say that in front of this family? It made me sick. It was nearing the end of my set so I took an extra long time with the Make a Wish family and then just left that awful man there and walked inside.

Oh dear God!! I can't believe some people. That is terrible!!!
I was standing in line with my nephew last week, we were next to meet Mickey and one of the CM's ask if we minded waiting just a sec, while a special friend came up to meet Mickey and of course we did NOT mind at all.

 

[Slipknot]

I hate it when people smoke outside of the designated areas for smoking. Don't get me wrong, if you want to smoke, go for it. Just do it where you are supposed to.

Anyway, about two weekends ago, we spotted a guy lighting up his ciggarete(i don't care if it is spelled wrong...) right in front of the Mad Tea Party. As far as I know, that IS NOT a designated smoking area. It was just about time that Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum were schedualed for a meet n' greet in that spot. Well, Tweedle Dum spotted the guy, RAN up to him and got in his face shaking his finger and his head 'NO.' Lets just say that the guy understood him. :lol:

 

[Gucci65]

Well this post will give away a little too much about my job but I'll try to be good. I was signing autographs when a "Make a Wish" kid politely came to the side of my line and waited. The greeter noticed this family and asked the next people in line if they wouldn't mind waiting for just a second while this child came to see me. The father in line said,
"Why should this kid get to go to the front of the line?"
The greeter went over and told him that she would explain it to him later when the child wasn't around. He responded,
"I don't care if this kids dying. My kids special too! We payed $55 to get into the park!"

I couldn't believe what he was saying. First, it was the Oasis at DAK so he actually hadn't even gone into the park yet but how could someone say that in front of this family? It made me sick. It was nearing the end of my set so I took an extra long time with the Make a Wish family and then just left that awful man there and walked inside.

All the posts on this thread are fine examples of bad behavior, but this is the worst.

How can people who think like that, live with themselves?

NightAaron - I hope you took you lunch break at that point.

 

[phlydude]

Forgive me, but I find it somewhat sickening that you care more about GETTING CREDIT than you did about how those parents must have felt about having their kid safe and sound. Also, how do you know they never thanked the cop?? Did you spend the rest of your vacation in the presence of him the entire time? Is it possible we're maybe embellishing our story just a bit? Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great thing that you did. But it also sounds like your motivation was more about just being a "hero", and when you didn't get the recognition for it, those parents were somehow being "rude" or something. Maybe if YOU had a child who almost died, you would understand what goes through a parent's mind and not be so hung up on getting CREDIT. Whatever happened to doing something because it's the right thing to do, as opposed to doing it so that you'll get thanked?

No, you have it wrong. I don't care MORE about getting credit rather than saving the kid's life; if that were the case and I was a "hero " I would have made the parents beg me to save their child before acting. Sound absurd? Well CHAPS, that's the way I interpreted your post.
I KNOW that I WOULD acknowledge someone's assistance if something happened to me and would expect the return because it only seems right to me.

I know that they didn't thank the cop because after that, we hung out at the pool each and every day after that until I left the resort. There weren't too many English speaking people here, but the family was American and from Miami. They spoke English and travelled in a large group.
I am not the hero type, I just knew that at that moment that I needed to act. Adrenaline kicked in and there wasn't any thought
The thing that gets me is that the parents let the kid alone in a pool where he couldn't swim and later in the week, the kid was swimming in the same pool without supervision. I'm sure alcohol had something to do with it but if the kid is sooo important, I wouldn't let that kid near a pool again without me being right next to them if I were the parent.

 

[phlydude]

Perhaps so. But it's also a strong possibility that the parents didn't even remember what he looked like after the event. I'm sure that as the incident was happening, the parents weren't thinking in terms of, "Gosh, what's the courteous thing to do here?" I would bet their only focus was on the well-being of their child. I can imagine it was a traumatizing event for these parents, and yet all he cared about was that he will "forever remember that image" and that he wasn't thanked. I also think that when you include details in your story such as, "They never thanked the cop either"....a fact he couldn't possibly be sure about unless he was with the cop the entire time, then it's likely other details of the story were embellished as well. Following that line of thinking, I would not be surprised if it turned out they DID, in fact, thank him, but that maybe he felt entitled to something more from them.

Let me put it to you this way and I will give you benefit of a doubt since you are fairly new to the board so you may not have check out the "post pictures of you" threads...
If you meet me in person, you do not ever forget what I look like. I am a BIG guy person with a shaved bald head and a goatee.
In addition, this resort was in the Dominican Republic before Americans really started to go there. So to put it in a political way, the cop and I were 2 of 5 or so caucasian males that were at the resort all week. Most guests were latino.

As far as looking for feeling more "entitled", the only entitlement I looked for was a "thank you", "gracias", "donka shein", "domo origato" or whatever language you can think of

It's people like you that give forums in general a bad name
CHAPPS = TROLL

 

[phlydude]

If you read his entire post, the reason the parent "yelled at him" was because she thought he had done something to her child. He didn't say what it was that she had yelled, but I doubt it was something to the effect of, "Hey you jerk, quit saving my kid's life". If I looked over and saw a stranger grabbing my child and pulling her out of a swimming pool, I'm not sure it would initially occur to me that the stranger was actually saving her life. I'm sure that what the parent was yelling at him was something along those lines. But of course, he probably thought THAT was rude of her too!

To answer your question as to why I would post this...The title of this thread is "Annoying Guests". Most of the other examples were about those little annoyances that we get from other park guests. Not so with this story. I personally felt for the parents in the story and just thought it was tacky that all he seemed to care about was that HE wasn't thanked. This is not something I would classify under the heading of "annoying guest". If I offended you with my post, I'm sorry. But I stand by what I said. As a parent, I was offended by HIS post.

The parent yelled at me because her little precious was face down, gray, submerged near the bottom of the pool. I don't know if she thought I put him there or if it was my job to watch him. I understand people freeze in shocking moments but she stood there and yelled. When I pulled him out, she continued to yell. Once it set in that the kid was dead and that we were performing CPR, she stopped yelling at us and yelled for her family to come over.

CHAPPS, I am offended my your posts. What annoyed me most is being yelled at and the fact that the parents let this kid swim alone before and AFTER drowing.

I went away from here for a while because of people like you. I'm sorry to say that when I came back to post and SHARE a story, people like you are sitting there looking to pick fights with anyone who they don't agree with.
The internet is great for the information but when you have to deal with a$$e$ like you, it really sucks!

 

[Macday000]

I have 2 annoying guest stories and they both take place before/during Illuminations:

1. I was in Italy watching Illuminations and had a great spot - could see everything well. Halfway through, someone who was video taping the show a couple people over, saw that where I was standing was a great view. So this person had the nerve to come over and stand directly in front of me to video tape. I asked them nicely about 3 times to move and each time they would move to the side a little bit and then inch their way back in front. By the time they moved completely the show was over! Good thing it wasn't my first time seeing it

2. On a different trip, my bf and I got a great spot right next to the store near the walkway to FW. We waited so long to get this spot. There was a railing right in front of us and we were *standing*. There were many other people *standing* at this spot and usually people*stand* all around WS watching. Well right when the show started a group of people just arrived at this spot directly behind us and they decided that they wanted to sit and watch the show. They kept screaming at all of us standing in the front by the railing to sit down b/c they cant see. The people to our left sat and obeyed. My bf and I and the people to my right refused to sit because it is ludicrous to sit and watch this show. After the first firework display, the man of the sitting group came up to us instructing us to sit down b/c they couldnt see and he was getting very annoying, rude and upset. My bf was furious because not once have we ever sat during this show out of all the times we've been (and we go every year). The people to our right finally sat because they were sick of hearing this man scream and ruin the show. We finally ended up *kneeling* which was extremely uncomfortable and you couldnt see due to the railing in front of us. After the show was over the man did come up to us and thanked us for obeying him. My bf was still upset and he told him that if he wanted to sit that he should have planned his day better so he could get there earlier to get a good spot in front so that he can sit and not upset others who waited hours to get their spots. Ridiculus :hammer:

That is so rude! If you were there first, you have the right to stand and not have to listen to someone's commands who had just arrived.

 

[brich]

I went away from here for a while because of people like you. I'm sorry to say that when I came back to post and SHARE a story, people like you are sitting there looking to pick fights with anyone who they don't agree with.
The internet is great for the information but when you have to deal with a$$e$ like you, it really sucks!

Take a deep breathe Phlydude.... I understood your posts. For some, they focus on one little element, magnify it, harp on it and take it to church with them. You have to just shake your head and laugh.

I had an experience where a girl caught on fire and I was the only one to react and respond. I got thank you's and some ribbing from my friends for being a "hero". Did any of that matter? Not really. What mattered was that I felt good about what I did and took pride in knowing that I responded. The Thank you's are nice because it reinforces good deeds. Most look the other way for fear of being sued. I know your post was more about the fact that you encountered negative responses in the form of "yelling" and that was essentially the only response you got. You either are the type that will react or not. Those that help out in situations like this don't think about anything other than helping another. So for someone to insinuate that you responded to a child in need because you thought you would get something in return in simply asinine.

 

[MSTINKHERBELL01]

Hey Phly...I understand your point sweetheart...to me, it didnt seem like you were fishing for HERO STATUS...you did a great thing and you should be commended for your strength and courage. To be honest, I freak out when my 7 yr old sons nose bleeds. I literally start screaming and crying and he has to calm me down. I wouldnt know how to react if something tragic happend. Don't leave the boards for "someone" misunderstanding your post...Brush that mess off...the boards are for fun and sadly sometimes people spoil the fun. It's all about Magic...you showed yours by saving someone elses...GOOD FOR YOU!

MSTINKHERBELL01

 

[phlydude]

Thanks for the support from those who commented that way!

 

[MSTINKHERBELL01]

Anytime Phly!:wave:

 

[CHAPPS]

So for someone to insinuate that you responded to a child in need because you thought you would get something in return in simply asinine.

I think my post has been vastly misunderstood. And please don't mistake this for an apology. I do not believe one is warranted, and I still stand by what I said. However, it does seem that a little clarification is in order.

I was not insinuating that he saved the child so that he would get something in return. This is a simplistic, and inaccurate, interpretation of what I was saying. I'm not arguing that the ACT of saving a child was a great thing. And I'm not saying that his motive was just to get credit. What I was offended by was the fact that he was so concerned about not hearing a "thank you" from the parent. Now, if my child were saved from drowning by a stranger, would I be grateful and want to thank the person? I'd like to think that I would. In fact, I would imagine I'd be so grateful that I'd probably want to do something spectacular for the individual just to show my gratitude. On the flip side, however, if I saved a child, my primary concern would be the well-being of the child. I highly doubt that the thought of whether or not I got a "thank you" would even enter my mind. And I think I'd be a little more understanding if the parents paid attention to nothing else but the child for the rest of the vacation.

Based on all this, I just found it kind of tacky that he even cared about being thanked by the parents. How could he possibly know what was going on in the parents' minds?? But taking it a step further, he shared this story under the classification of simply an "annoying guest". What has this world come to when a person finds it "annoying" that someone doesn't thank you after their child nearly died??

So if I'm to be jumped on by other members, or even banned from the boards for my remarks, then so be it. I'm not sure I want to be a member of a community where other members would so viciously side with someone who is clearly thinking of himself and not even attempting to understand how the parents must have felt.

 

[CHAPPS]

if that were the case and I was a "hero " I would have made the parents beg me to save their child before acting. in

You put "hero " in quotes, which implies that you were quoting me as saying that about you. If you read my posts, at no time did I use this term to describe you.

 

[Tom]

I think my post has been vastly misunderstood. And please don't mistake this for an apology. I do not believe one is warranted, and I still stand by what I said. However, it does seem that a little clarification is in order.

I was not insinuating that he saved the child so that he would get something in return. This is a simplistic, and inaccurate, interpretation of what I was saying. I'm not arguing that the ACT of saving a child was a great thing. And I'm not saying that his motive was just to get credit. What I was offended by was the fact that he was so concerned about not hearing a "thank you" from the parent. Now, if my child were saved from drowning by a stranger, would I be grateful and want to thank the person? I'd like to think that I would. In fact, I would imagine I'd be so grateful that I'd probably want to do something spectacular for the individual just to show my gratitude. On the flip side, however, if I saved a child, my primary concern would be the well-being of the child. I highly doubt that the thought of whether or not I got a "thank you" would even enter my mind. And I think I'd be a little more understanding if the parents paid attention to nothing else but the child for the rest of the vacation.

Based on all this, I just found it kind of tacky that he even cared about being thanked by the parents. How could he possibly know what was going on in the parents' minds?? But taking it a step further, he shared this story under the classification of simply an "annoying guest". What has this world come to when a person finds it "annoying" that someone doesn't thank you after their child nearly died??

So if I'm to be jumped on by other members, or even banned from the boards for my remarks, then so be it. I'm not sure I want to be a member of a community where other members would so viciously side with someone who is clearly thinking of himself and not even attempting to understand how the parents must have felt.

We're talking about Annoying Guests here, correct. I think I'm on the same page as Phlydude.....and I think his original post was pointing out the oh-so-typical "it's all about me" mentality that more and more Americans are acquiring every day. Sure, he was a hero, in my book, for saving the kid's life. I'm sure there weren't many others sitting around that pool that had much interest in putting forth that much effort for someone else. And by his comments on the parents not thanking him or showing any gratitude, or even apologizing for screaming at him by mistake in the beginning, he's simply pointing out their arrogance, or just self centeredness - which is an annoyance to him, as it is to me.

I'm positive that dude was happy that the kid was ok and that he felt some sense of self pride for his actions, as well he should. At the same time, any rational, caring human would find the decency to show their appreciation to someone who saved a loved one. He clearly mentioned that they saw each other later in the trip - which tells me that the family was out and about....obviously over the grief and shock period....fully able to regain composure and show SOME appreciation.

I hate that I even felt the need to get back into this ignorant argument. Phlydude is a hero - period. He knows he did something great. He is annoyed that there are people out there that can't even show TINY bits of appreciation for something that they should actually be forever endebted to him for - not that he LIVES for being thanked and acknowledged, but because there are people that just can't see outside of their own damn bubble of a world. You missed the point, and I just can't comprehend that you are seriously offended by his post.....good friggin GRIEF!

 

[CHAPPS]

We're talking about Annoying Guests here, correct. I think I'm on the same page as Phlydude.....and I think his original post was pointing out the oh-so-typical "it's all about me" mentality that more and more Americans are acquiring every day. Sure, he was a hero, in my book, for saving the kid's life. I'm sure there weren't many others sitting around that pool that had much interest in putting forth that much effort for someone else. And by his comments on the parents not thanking him or showing any gratitude, or even apologizing for screaming at him by mistake in the beginning, he's simply pointing out their arrogance, or just self centeredness - which is an annoyance to him, as it is to me.

I'm positive that dude was happy that the kid was ok and that he felt some sense of self pride for his actions, as well he should. At the same time, any rational, caring human would find the decency to show their appreciation to someone who saved a loved one. He clearly mentioned that they saw each other later in the trip - which tells me that the family was out and about....obviously over the grief and shock period....fully able to regain composure and show SOME appreciation.

I hate that I even felt the need to get back into this ignorant argument. Phlydude is a hero - period. He knows he did something great. He is annoyed that there are people out there that can't even show TINY bits of appreciation for something that they should actually be forever endebted to him for - not that he LIVES for being thanked and acknowledged, but because there are people that just can't see outside of their own damn bubble of a world. You missed the point, and I just can't comprehend that you are seriously offended by his post.....good friggin GRIEF!

I really wouldn't consider this an "ignorant argument". I'm sorry that you and others disagree with my point so vehemently. However, you may have noticed that at no point have I resorted to name calling or any other types of below-the-belt comments about members with whom I've disagreed. Others, however, HAVE made such comments about me simply based on me expressing my opinion. If anything, it's those types of childish responses that make this discussion seem "ignorant".

As far as YOUR comment that more and more Americans are acquiring an "it's all about me" attitude, that was exactly how I felt about Phlydude's issue. To be hung up on not being thanked by parents whose child almost died seems selfish to me. I'm not arguing that what he did wasn't a great thing. I'm glad he did it. And once again, I'm not saying his motive was just to get rewarded. And I would even go so far as to say that it's natural to expect some sort of gratitude from the parents. But at the same time, I think he could have been a little more understanding considering what the parents had just gone through. To use your words...."Good grief!!" We're talking about a child's life here!! Phyldude's issue about not being thanked seems like a plot line from something you'd see on a Seinfeld episode. It seems like a reaction that George Costanza would have.

As far as the fact that the family was out and about after the incident, have you considered that maybe they were just wanting to spend precious time with their child and embrace life? To conclude that this meant they were "obviously over the grief and shock period" (your exact words), seems a little short-sighted to me. If anything, THAT is an example of being ignorant.

 

[thedogbots]

I was at Epcot one time, enjoying a beer and walking from Germany to Italy when all of a sudden this guy stepped out right in front of me and knocked my beer out of my hand. He wasn't even willing to buy me a new beer. Later, I saw him again walking around in a different shirt. If he can afford to buy a new shirt, he can afford to buy me a new beer, dadgummit!

LMAO!!!! good one... i havent even gotten half way through the thread but had to reply.... i have always wondered in the four or five years i have lurked on various disney boards, when this kind of thread comes up (the worst thing you have seen at disney kind of thread) how many people read one of the posts and say... crap that was me on splash mountain being an idiot that day. I am guessing this is sarcastic of course, but does anybody else ever wonder how many forum members might read one of these posts and become offended because it was talking about them? haha... oh well.

I have seen a couple funny stories so ill share one. When we were there in december we were walking around fantasyland when the guy with a stroller in front of us starts muttering curses under his breath. he then procedes to move his stroller towards some stroller parking by the at that time being remodeled IASW. when he turns we see that his son has puked ALL OVER the stroller and onto the sidewalk even.... and yeah it was gross and what not but oh well it happens. I don't have kids or anything but i assume it is not that big of a deal to clean up your kid and your stroller and move on.... well not for this guy. he makes a straight dash for some strollers that are unoccupied at the moment due to guests being various other places.

At this point i stop paying attention and we start to keep walking... but i turn my head back and realize hes stealing someone elses stroller! He throws his kid in it and switches out some stuff from the strollers and takes off at a half run, ramming people out of his way in the process. I don't know how the strollers work... but i thought there was some way to tell you had the same stroller when you turned it in.... well the owner of the other stroller didn't seem to come back so i felt we must do something about it.

I turn to my girlfriend, and am like "did you just see that?????" she replied yes, so we went and found the nearest cast member who was picking up garbage nearby. We alerted them however the guy had already made his way out of sight. So we showed the CM the puke filled stroller.... it was quite weird. We were thanked and we went on our way. i don't know what happened after that but it drove me mad the rest of the day knowing someone would do that.

 

[Slosh]

I've got one, there was this one time when someone got really really off topic on a message board while bashing someone else, that was particularly annoying.

Then theres the time I was leaving LMA, huge crowd, and one lady decides to randomly stop her giant motorized cart right in the middle of the surging crowd. Directly in front of me. Having just seen a bunch of stunt drivers and feeling fairly confident in my maneuverability, I pull a hard left, narrowly miss banging my knee, and keep walking. Apparently happy with having disrupted traffic enough, the lady started moving again at that moment and ran over the entire length of my foot, heel to toe. I know I yelled something... inappropriate... :lookaround: but it was just such a shock, those things are HEAVY! Of course I got the evil eye for stepping in front of her when she wasn't moving, but I just kept limping off.

 

[bluefaery]

Well this post will give away a little too much about my job but I'll try to be good. I was signing autographs when a "Make a Wish" kid politely came to the side of my line and waited. The greeter noticed this family and asked the next people in line if they wouldn't mind waiting for just a second while this child came to see me. The father in line said,
"Why should this kid get to go to the front of the line?"
The greeter went over and told him that she would explain it to him later when the child wasn't around. He responded,
"I don't care if this kids dying. My kids special too! We payed $55 to get into the park!"

I couldn't believe what he was saying. First, it was the Oasis at DAK so he actually hadn't even gone into the park yet but how could someone say that in front of this family? It made me sick. It was nearing the end of my set so I took an extra long time with the Make a Wish family and then just left that awful man there and walked inside.

OMG. That hit home for me. My cousin was a make a wish kid about 10 yrs ago. His wish was to go to WDW. Well since his sister could go (don't remember why), I got to go. We got to the MGM Studios and (don't remember which one) got to go on a backstage tour of an attraction. A family tried to follow us inot the VIP tour. One CM told them what was going on when the dad said "WHY THE HELL DOES THIS "SPECIAL" KID GET TO GET A SPECIAL TOUR? " I wanted to kick his {but}. Mind you my cousin had no hair at the time and has been in a wheelchair since he was born. Reading this post (look above) made me remeber it again.