News Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

HauntedMansionFLA

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Well...I'm trying to remain open...I've stated that...

But "fool me 948 times..." ya know?
I did like when the insiders kept saying there won’t be a Star Wars announcement at one of the D23’s . Then big, huge announcement and the “Plans were changed last second” excuse. (Along with details and artwork) but yes...... fool me 948 - shame on me :banghead::banghead::cry::cry:
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I did like when the insiders kept saying there won’t be a Star Wars announcement at one of the D23’s . Then big, huge announcement and the “Plans were changed last second” excuse. (Along with details and artwork) but yes...... fool me 948 - shame on me :banghead::banghead::cry::cry:

Well...I'm new here...

But if I had to guess...I'd say that announced further expansion at USO...coupled with Wall Street really starting to complain about espn drop/cable cutting...

...couldn't POSSIBLY have forced them to make an announcement in 2015 meant for 2018 or beyond and commit a couple years early...as opposed to the original plan to pull an avatar and take 7 years to build something due to slow, deliberate bleeding of "coming soon" and the sales/PR angle...

But that couldn't have happened...and I'm new here.
 
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HauntedMansionFLA

Well-Known Member
Well...I'm new here...

But if I had to guess...I'd say that announced further expansion at USO...coupled with Wall Street really starting to complain about espn drop/cable cutting...

...couldn't POSSIBLY have forced them to make an announcement and commit a couple years early...as opposed to the original plan to pull an avatar and take 7 years to build something due to slow, deliberate bleeding of "coming soon" and the sales/PR angle to bleed...

But that couldn't have happened...and I'm new here.
More Potter???? Mario Kart????
Maybe WDW are going back to build... dare I say.......... CARSLAND :):):cool::D
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
To add to my last post, what's also interesting is that the boards seem to be "known". We've had imagineers post on here (Eddie Sotto had a few amazingly long threads). Joe Rohde is aware of this place. I know Spirit and I'm sure other insiders have alluded to people with the company reading the boards.

So I do think they read us. It'd be nice if they listened instead of probably laughing us off.
I suspect that those who read these boards may agree with us quite often but may not be in a position to make the final call on stuff, especially when it comes to finances or mandates from the top.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I suspect that those who read these boards may agree with us quite often but may not be in a position to make the final call on stuff, especially when it comes to finances or mandates from the top.

I think on this we all SHOULD agree...

The "final calls" made on anything more than petty cash (in the grand scheme of things) are always always made from Casa de le Dwarf...and it's after a ridiculous amount of data crunching and analysis to see if there's any other way. You want the difference between today's disney and the past? There's really only been 3 regimes: disney men, Eisner and iger. Well the first two would undertake projects to expand what could be done to make money...even Eisner...the latter does NOT. Every cent is hand wrung now because Bob is so much of a wall street dog.

The decisions are never made from imagineering oR TDO...if we're honest. That's why it's right to be completely cautious...even though we all like new toys.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I think on this we all SHOULD agree...

The "final calls" made on anything more than petty cash (in the grand scheme of things) are always always made from Casa de le Dwarf...and it's after a ridiculous amount of data crunching and analysis to see if there's any other way. You want the difference between today's disney and the past? There's really only been 3 regimes: disney men, Eisner and iger. Well the first two would undertake projects to expand what could be done to make money...even Eisner...the latter does NOT. Every cent is hand wrung now because Bob is so much of a wall street dog.
While all of that makes sense in some respects (for example, the apparent refusal to approve attractions not based on IPs), what goes against this is the amount of money they spend once something does get approved. For example, they left DHS to decay for a long time but then seem to have showered money onto Toy Story Land and its two very basic attractions. The same goes for what are apparently astronomical amounts being spent on the Tron clone in MK.

The difference with at least the last half of Eisner's tenure is that he seemed to approve a lot more, but he at least appeared far more ruthless with cutting costs to the point where you got parks like DCA and WDS. Iger seems to have, at least until recently, approved less. But, when he does, the cash floodgates open.
 

Jones14

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While all of that makes sense in some respects (for example, the apparent refusal to approve attractions not based on IPs), what goes against this is the amount of money they spend once something does get approved. For example, they left DHS to decay for a long time but then seem to have showered money onto Toy Story Land and its two very basic attractions. The same goes for what are apparently astronomical amounts being spent on the Tron clone in MK.

The difference with at least the last half of Eisner's tenure is that he seemed to approve a lot more, but he at least appeared far more ruthless with cutting costs to the point where you got parks like DCA and WDS. Iger seems to have, at least until recently, approved less. But, when he does, the cash floodgates open.
Yeah, the amounts being spent lately are nothing to sniff at. If WDI could get their spending under control, it wouldn’t be as disastrous during the times when the bank is closed for business.
 

matt9112

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The old argument seems to apply here; people attending a theme park expect a theme park. Not a zoo with some attractions.

I don’t speak for myself.

the price tag is why....you have AK that is on the same level (advert wise ) as epcot and DHS and it's a fancy zoo with some rides....look I love the place but if your on a vacation stereotypically and your not info animals as much and being on a standard 4 or 5 day vacation don't have time to slow down there's really....not much there. I think the criticism is valid.
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
the price tag is why....you have AK that is on the same level (advert wise ) as epcot and DHS and it's a fancy zoo with some rides....look I love the place but if your on a vacation stereotypically and your not info animals as much and being on a standard 4 or 5 day vacation don't have time to slow down there's really....not much there. I think the criticism is valid.
I don't agree with this at all.. Many of the people I know (who aren't the types who go on forums like this, but have been to Disney a few times) consider AK one of their favorite parks. Do they need a little more? Sure. But there's a lot there to explore and I think a good number of people realize it.

It is a pretty popular theme park, after all..
 

...it's a yungle

Well-Known Member
the price tag is why....you have AK that is on the same level (advert wise ) as epcot and DHS and it's a fancy zoo with some rides....look I love the place but if your on a vacation stereotypically and your not info animals as much and being on a standard 4 or 5 day vacation don't have time to slow down there's really....not much there. I think the criticism is valid.
“...and remember, it’s not a zoo, it’s a yungle!”
 

cheezbat

Well-Known Member
I don't agree with this at all.. Many of the people I know (who aren't the types who go on forums like this, but have been to Disney a few times) consider AK one of their favorite parks. Do they need a little more? Sure. But there's a lot there to explore and I think a good number of people realize it.

It is a pretty popular theme park, after all..
But it has some major flaws. From talking to my friends who occasionally visit and also are not big theme park junkies have two complaints about the place. Not enough rides for the whole family/smaller kids to enjoy, and it's soooo hot in the park that there needs to be more dark rides/indoor attractions.
 

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