Angels tell Anaheim they're opting out of their lease on Angel Stadium

mickEblu

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I question that whole transition. It would require relocating the entire West Side Cooling complex from between Mansion and Pirates show buildings, plus presumably demolishing the West Sider CM cafe and the NO Train Station. But if they can shorten TSI and put an S-curve in the DLRR, then I guess they have more money to burn. But it would be a disaster to route traffic through the park between Mansion and French Market. This would do to Mansion's extended queue what building Indy did to Pirates. Then what do they do--go under the DLRR, but then up and over the tram route and DL Drive?

My vote if Disneyland were to be expanded would be for the pathway to be located between Splash Mountain and Pooh Corner. Is that more doable? There’s just too much at stake near the NOS train station. Plus they wouldn’t have to do anything to the DLRR tracks. Removing or shortening the Pooh store sounds much cleaner. Granted I don’t know what’s back there.
 
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BuzzedPotatoHead89

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For those who need to get around the NYT paywall I’m quoting the article in full below.

<<Grappling with a federal public corruption investigation into the sale of Angel Stadium, Mayor Harry Sidhu of Anaheim, Calif., announced his resignation on Monday amid questions about whether business leaders in the state’s 10th-largest city have wielded undue influence.
Mr. Sidhu, a Republican elected in 2018 to lead the Southern California city of nearly 350,000 people, has not been charged with wrongdoing. But documentation supporting a federal search warrant accused him of acting against the city’s interests while negotiating the planned $320 million sale of the Major League Baseball stadium to the owner of the Los Angeles Angels, its home team.

In an affidavit filed this month, Brian Adkins, a special agent for the F.B.I., alleged that Mr. Sidhu shared confidential information with the team at least twice in anticipation of a “sizeable” donation toward his re-election this year. The affidavit did not include evidence that Mr. Sidhu had solicited such a contribution but cited surreptitiously recorded conversations in which the mayor detailed plans to ask the Angels for “at least” $1 million in campaign help.
Mr. Sidhu’s lawyer denied that in a statement.

“A fair and thorough investigation will prove that Mayor Harry Sidhu did not leak secret information,” the lawyer, Paul S. Meyer, said, adding that the mayor “never asked for a political campaign contribution that was linked in any way to the negotiation process.” He said the mayor’s decision to leave his post effective Tuesday was an effort “to act in the best interests of Anaheim.”

Last week, the rest of the City Council had asked Mr. Sidhu to resign.
Mr. Sidhu, a former city councilman, is the second Anaheim official this week to resign from a political post amid fallout from the investigation, which appears to have gained traction after 2019, when the F.B.I. arrested a local political consultant on charges of attempted bribery.

The consultant, Melahat Rafiei, also served on a city commission, sat on the Democratic National Committee and was an officer in the state Democratic Party. She resigned from those posts over the weekend, writing on social media that she, too, was innocent of wrongdoing.
The charges against Ms. Rafiei were ultimately dismissed. According to the social media post and the federal affidavit, she then went to work as a confidential informant for the F.B.I., wearing a wire during meetings with Southern California city officials in a federal inquiry into a collection of local officials, business leaders and political operatives who exerted political influence in Anaheim.
In the social media post, she wrote that she had intended to “uncover corruption among Republican operatives.”

The investigation also has ensnared the former chief executive of the Anaheim Chamber of Commerce. The executive, Todd Ament, was charged last week with lying about his assets to a mortgage lender in an attempt to use the chamber’s money to qualify for a loan to buy a vacation home.

Mike Lyster, a spokesman for Anaheim, said the City Council would meet Tuesday to discuss the future of the stadium deal, an issue that raises broader questions about the future of a city known for its tourist attractions — Disneyland chief among them — and professional sports teams.

Right now, the city owns what Mr. Lyster described as an aging stadium, famously marked by a giant red “A” encircled by a halo. The stadium is surrounded by a sea of concrete, a parking lot that a company run by Arte Moreno, the owner of the Angels, planned to develop with homes, restaurants, hotels and shops.
The investigation could impede the deal. In December, California officials found that the sale violated a state law requiring local governments to prioritize surplus land for affordable housing. Last month, Anaheim and the state agreed to resolve the matter by having the city pay a $96 million fine. But Attorney General Rob Bonta has since asked a judge to pause the resolution.
Mr. Lyster said that if the deal falls through, it could affect whether the Angels stay in Anaheim.

“Will this be a pause? Will this be a reset?” Mr. Lyster said. “That’s the direction we need from our City Council.”>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/23/...harry-sidhu.html?referringSource=articleShare
 

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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While I won’t drudge up the entirety of this one there’s a lot of chatter about TDA’s and SOAR’s role on this as well as this came up on the FBI’s affidavits also. While I don’t see a connection here per se and Voice of OC has a notorious bias this political timing of this when coupled with the resignation of Mayor Sidhu is unfortunate for TDA. Disney/Chapek really can’t catch a break.

<<The discussion of the Disney money vehicle came up in the FBI wiretapped call – described in the criminal complaint – when one of the self-described “cabal” ringleaders discussed how it was too early to invite a newly-elected City Council member to understand how their “family” operates.

“I think this would be a lot for him to absorb in his first week [as an elected member of the Anaheim City Council],” said Anaheim Chamber of Commerce CEO Todd Ament, according to the FBI transcript.

“It’s kind of like when S.O.A.R. took how the sausage was made to the S.O.A.R. Board to show them how polling works and how we manipulate it,” he continued, according to the complaint.

“That’s when half S.O.A.R. kind of went off the deep end,” Ament added, prompting laughter on the other end of the line from the political consultant, the complaint states.

“We’re part of the manipulation. I think it’s too early for [the new City Council member] to get into this level of detail,” Ament added.

“Yeah, I agree,” replied the consultant.>>

 

Stevek

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I question that whole transition. It would require relocating the entire West Side Cooling complex from between Mansion and Pirates show buildings, plus presumably demolishing the West Sider CM cafe and the NO Train Station. But if they can shorten TSI and put an S-curve in the DLRR, then I guess they have more money to burn. But it would be a disaster to route traffic through the park between Mansion and French Market. This would do to Mansion's extended queue what building Indy did to Pirates. Then what do they do--go under the DLRR, but then up and over the tram route and DL Drive?
I don't believe for a second that they do anything to NO Square. I'd put money on it going between Splash and Pooh, potentially ripping out the store/candy shop building. IF it ever happens.
 

mickEblu

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I don't believe for a second that they do anything to NO Square. I'd put money on it going between Splash and Pooh, potentially ripping out the store/candy shop building. IF it ever happens.

I agree. Why deal with the hassle with the train when the issue is already solved in Critter Country. When the news first broke most people for whatever reason guessed the pathway going in NOS when basing it on the concept art
 

Old Mouseketeer

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I agree. Why deal with the hassle with the train when the issue is already solved in Critter Country. When the news first broke most people for whatever reason guessed the pathway going in NOS when basing it on the concept art

Yes--now that I look more closely at the concept art I think that's the more likely intent. It looks to be aimed towards the North side of the little angled tab on the Southwest corner of the Splash show building, which presumably would accomodate the up ramp from Critter Country to the overpass. I would guess that they would have to lose at least part of the Pooh store. There's not much of an opening at that backstage gate.
 

Newtwo

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While I won’t drudge up the entirety of this one there’s a lot of chatter about TDA’s and SOAR’s role on this as well as this came up on the FBI’s affidavits also. While I don’t see a connection here per se and Voice of OC has a notorious bias this political timing of this when coupled with the resignation of Mayor Sidhu is unfortunate for TDA. Disney/Chapek really can’t catch a break.

<<The discussion of the Disney money vehicle came up in the FBI wiretapped call – described in the criminal complaint – when one of the self-described “cabal” ringleaders discussed how it was too early to invite a newly-elected City Council member to understand how their “family” operates.

“I think this would be a lot for him to absorb in his first week [as an elected member of the Anaheim City Council],” said Anaheim Chamber of Commerce CEO Todd Ament, according to the FBI transcript.

“It’s kind of like when S.O.A.R. took how the sausage was made to the S.O.A.R. Board to show them how polling works and how we manipulate it,” he continued, according to the complaint.

“That’s when half S.O.A.R. kind of went off the deep end,” Ament added, prompting laughter on the other end of the line from the political consultant, the complaint states.

“We’re part of the manipulation. I think it’s too early for [the new City Council member] to get into this level of detail,” Ament added.

“Yeah, I agree,” replied the consultant.>>

Disney is basically the mafia

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truecoat

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Yes--now that I look more closely at the concept art I think that's the more likely intent. It looks to be aimed towards the North side of the little angled tab on the Southwest corner of the Splash show building, which presumably would accomodate the up ramp from Critter Country to the overpass. I would guess that they would have to lose at least part of the Pooh store. There's not much of an opening at that backstage gate.

It would make the most sense.

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Phroobar

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Though unlikely, I still favor the NOS gap between Mansion and Pirates. It's too tightly clogged in Critter Country. Build a nice new Frontierland/NOS train station with passages beneath it.
Right behind the train station is air conditioning units and two backstage buildings. You also run in to the monorail. Then it's a long bridge over to the parking lot. A bridge next to Splash is a lot shorter.
 

Jacob Marley

Active Member
Angels don't want to play in Los Angeles, so they play in Anaheim.
Angels don't want their name associated with Anaheim, so they call themselves the Los Angeles Angels.
Angels apparently don't want to embrace fully either city, so they can go pound sand.

Go Dodgers.
 

Phroobar

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Angels don't want to play in Los Angeles, so they play in Anaheim.
Angels don't want their name associated with Anaheim, so they call themselves the Los Angeles Angels.
Angels apparently don't want to embrace fully either city, so they can go pound sand.

Go Dodgers.
Who wants to watch a bunch of millionaires play a children's game anyway?
 

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