Andrew Stanton Returns for a Finding Nemo Sequel....

MarkTwain

Well-Known Member
Anyone see this?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/364103/20120717/toy-story-4-monsters-finding-nemo-2.htm

Although the Finding Nemo news kinda made me roll my eyes, the prospect of a 4th Toy Story makes me want to smash my head into a wall. What I can't tell is if the article has a legitimate and recent source regarding a 4th Toy Story, or if they just lumped the recent Nemo news on top of the Monsters University trailer and what Tom Hanks mumbled about a month ago to create an article about "3 Pixar sequels".
 

JohnLocke

Member
Stephen King said he wanted to do a sequel to all his biggest works, there's definitely always more story that can be told, unless you blow up the entire universe, but it is curious that they still haven't gotten to an Incredibles 2 yet, I know they're waiting on Brad Bird, but you think they'd push harder to try to bring him something.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Stephen King said he wanted to do a sequel to all his biggest works, there's definitely always more story that can be told, unless you blow up the entire universe, but it is curious that they still haven't gotten to an Incredibles 2 yet, I know they're waiting on Brad Bird, but you think they'd push harder to try to bring him something.
I agree. The incredibles could have all kinds of sequals and keep new story lines as compared to toy story and a bunch of toys obsessed with remaining relevant.
 

JohnLocke

Member
Anyone see this?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/364103/20120717/toy-story-4-monsters-finding-nemo-2.htm

Although the Finding Nemo news kinda made me roll my eyes, the prospect of a 4th Toy Story makes me want to smash my head into a wall. What I can't tell is if the article is has a legitimate and recent source regarding a 4th Toy Story, or if they just lumped the recent Nemo news on top of the Monsters University trailer and what Tom Hanks mumbled about a month ago to create an article about "3 Pixar sequels".

I'm guessing speculation, though I'd imagine they want to do one, at least Disney wants them to. I'm hoping they at the very least stick to a 2:1 original to sequel ratio.
 

JohnLocke

Member
I agree. The incredibles could have all kinds of sequals and keep new story lines as compared to toy story and a bunch of toys obsessed with remaining relevant.

Especially now that they have Marvel and the 3rd and 4th tier heroes and villains in their catalogue, it would be a good way to get some of them higher exposure to hopefully launch more films.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Especially now that they have Marvel and the 3rd and 4th tier heroes and villains in their catalogue, it would be a good way to get some of them higher exposure to hopefully launch more films.
Absolutely. There is so much Marvel product out there that is not a part of UNI. Plus they could create new stuff. There is so much potential.
 

olinecoach61

Well-Known Member
Anyone see this?

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/364103/20120717/toy-story-4-monsters-finding-nemo-2.htm

Although the Finding Nemo news kinda made me roll my eyes, the prospect of a 4th Toy Story makes me want to smash my head into a wall. What I can't tell is if the article is has a legitimate and recent source regarding a 4th Toy Story, or if they just lumped the recent Nemo news on top of the Monsters University trailer and what Tom Hanks mumbled about a month ago to create an article about "3 Pixar sequels".
I hadn't heard about toy story 4, I would love that!
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
So, wait, between now and the potential "sequel" for Finding Nemo, we're getting at least two brand new concepts from Pixar (The Good Dinosaur and the yet to be titled one inside the child's mind) and because they may return to the Nemo universe, people all over the place (outside of here more than on here) are burying Pixar???
Why are sequels so terrible? Anyone remember Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3? Each sequel better than the last.
If they announce that it's another movie where Nemo gets lost and they have to go find him again, basically retell the first, ok, I can understand trepidation. If they decide that these are beloved characters with a whole new story to tell, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
 

MarkTwain

Well-Known Member
So, wait, between now and the potential "sequel" for Finding Nemo, we're getting at least two brand new concepts from Pixar (The Good Dinosaur and the yet to be titled one inside the child's mind) and because they may return to the Nemo universe, people all over the place (outside of here more than on here) are burying Pixar???
Why are sequels so terrible? Anyone remember Toy Story 2 and Toy Story 3? Each sequel better than the last.
If they announce that it's another movie where Nemo gets lost and they have to go find him again, basically retell the first, ok, I can understand trepidation. If they decide that these are beloved characters with a whole new story to tell, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

I see it as a problem because it could signify Pixar's diminished standing as a studio that makes principally artistic decisions. The original Nemo and Toy Story 3 each featured endings with a very high sense of "closure," which would have derived from an artistic decision to close them that way. A sequel to either likely indicates that a non-artistic incentive ($$$$) overcame that decision. That's problematic because most of Pixar's best films, such as Up, Ratatouille, and Wall-E, were all developed from concepts that seemed quirky or even downright unmarketable, and yet those are the movies that got Pixar the level of respect they have today. Pixar thinking with their wallet instead of their gut/heart could mark the end of the values that made them great.
 

MickeyPeace

Well-Known Member
I see it as a problem because it could signify Pixar's diminished standing as a studio that makes principally artistic decisions. The original Nemo and Toy Story 3 each featured endings with a very high sense of "closure," which would have derived from an artistic decision to close them that way. A sequel to either likely indicates that a non-artistic incentive ($$$$) overcame that decision. That's problematic because most of Pixar's best films, such as Up, Ratatouille, and Wall-E, were all developed from concepts that seemed quirky or even downright unmarketable, and yet those are the movies that got Pixar the level of respect they have today. Pixar thinking with their wallet instead of their gut/heart could mark the end of the values that made them great.

You mean like Cars?
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
I see it as a problem because it could signify Pixar's diminished standing as a studio that makes principally artistic decisions. The original Nemo and Toy Story 3 each featured endings with a very high sense of "closure," which would have derived from an artistic decision to close them that way. A sequel to either likely indicates that a non-artistic incentive ($$$$) overcame that decision. That's problematic because most of Pixar's best films, such as Up, Ratatouille, and Wall-E, were all developed from concepts that seemed quirky or even downright unmarketable, and yet those are the movies that got Pixar the level of respect they have today. Pixar thinking with their wallet instead of their gut/heart could mark the end of the values that made them great.

I do understand and agree with some things in here. I do disagree though that Nemo had the same full sense of "closure" as Toy Story 3 (and even there, the high quality of the shorts released after shows that there was not full closure). I think that there is plenty of story that could be left to be told in the "world" of Nemo, he is a child after all, he has a lot of growing up to do. It is one of the things that sequels do offer if done right. There is no setup required to introduce the world and characters, people know and understand that world and those characters and the story can start from there, either playing to that understanding or using that familiarity to upset the already known world to start the story from there.
Now, that all depends on the story being used of course. Like anything, if the story is short-changed, then I 100% agree that a sequel can seem like a cash-grab. If Nemo 2 is another story of Nemo getting lost, or if Nemo is an adult and his kid gets lost, or if they reverse it and Marlin gets lost, then I think I'll fall right into the disappointed camp. If they use this world to tell a new story, one with creativity and heart (which in my mind, they still have earned the benefit of the doubt, at least from me), then I have no problem with sequels.
 

Can we go yet?

Active Member
I personally think if any sequel has to be made, it should be the Incredibles. I don't know, it was just at the end of Nemo there was a sense of conclusion. Now what? Marlin gets lost, his mom is really alive? :/ I hope this isn't another Cars 2.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
Pixar needs to stop with the sequels before their product gets tainted. There was no reason for a cars sequel and there's absolutly no reason for the new monsters inc movie either (and I'm honestly not that excited about it, especially after seeing the trailer). And I honestly hope they don't make Toy Story 4. The third one was a fantastic conclusion. The shorts they've been making however are fantastic and I would like to see more of those.

And I agree with the others on here, of all the sequels pIxar makes I have no idea why the incredibles keeps getting the shaft. There's so much potential! And I wanna see more of Edna Mode!
 

WDWmazprty

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Although many of our opinions may be valid, the bottom line is that these sequels, however good or awful they may be, will continue to make buttloads of money; why? Because children will continue to want to see them and mommy and daddy will continue to take little Timmy to see his favorite Disney/Pixar stars =).
Its all about the money in the end.
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
Pixar needs to stop with the sequels before their product gets tainted. There was no reason for a cars sequel and there's absolutly no reason for the new monsters inc movie either (and I'm honestly not that excited about it, especially after seeing the trailer). And I honestly hope they don't make Toy Story 4. The third one was a fantastic conclusion. The shorts they've been making however are fantastic and I would like to see more of those.

And I agree with the others on here, of all the sequels pIxar makes I have no idea why the incredibles keeps getting the shaft. There's so much potential! And I wanna see more of Edna Mode!

So let me get this straight. Stop with the sequels, but why haven't they made the Incredibles sequel?
 

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