Am I the only one who likes the current version of Journey into Imagination?

Ariel1986

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Can someone tell me (in words) how the original version was different? I never rode it. I know there might be a video but if someone could actually say it (can't find it written anywhere what was actually different!) I'd be very grateful! As... I'm funny about watching videos of the world, outside of the world (even if they don't exist anymore!) I like to think I can only see/hear rides if I am there! Makes them more special.
Plus, I'm at work... lol!
 

Master Yoda

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Can someone tell me (in words) how the original version was different? I never rode it. I know there might be a video but if someone could actually say it (can't find it written anywhere what was actually different!) I'd be very grateful! As... I'm funny about watching videos of the world, outside of the world (even if they don't exist anymore!) I like to think I can only see/hear rides if I am there! Makes them more special.
Plus, I'm at work... lol!
There is no way to simply say it because everything was different. It was not a subtle change like adding Captain Jack to POTC. The track changed, the entire story changed and, for a while, all the characters changed. You really need to watch Martin's video.

http://www.martinsvids.net/?p=554
 

ExtinctJenn

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To answer the OP: As some have eluded to, most folks feelings on the current version of the attraction can be really dependent on whether they experienced the original. If you have then you probably enter this pavilion and immediately begin the comparisons in your head. As someone who was a huge fan of the original (as a kid I had more Figment stuff then Mickey) it's not that the current version is bad, it's that it doesn't compare to the wonder and beauty that the original had.

I'm a proponent of change at the parks, especially at Epcot. I think letting things get stale in a park designed to focus on what we can do and how we can best use our future doesn't make sense. BUT this is the single attraction that I feel didn't need to go or is worthy of being brought back. I adored Horizons for example but I also know that today it'd be dated and not really fit an accurate view of the future. Imagination however wasn't about the future... it wasn't about anything that changes or gets stale with age. It didn't need to go and the original really could fit back into Epcot without it feeling out of place (like Captain EO does to lots of folks).

All that said... my 7-year old son obviously never saw the original and he likes the current version so we ride it each trip. He went through a phase where he wouldn't ride it because of the skunk smell and I would still "force" him on because whether I like the change or not, Figment is still "Epcot" to me. Side note: A CM pulled him aside when he was upset about going on last trip (re: skunk) and told him it's not skunk and is actually the smell of burnt coffee. Now that's all we smell when it's pumped out at us (because it's true) and he's all good with it. LOL

There is no way to simply say it because everything was different. It was not a subtle change like adding Captain Jack to POTC. The track changed, the entire story changed and, for a while, all the characters changed. You really need to watch Martin's video.

http://www.martinsvids.net/?p=554
I second that... Martin's video is a great way to see the old as well as an explanation of what all changed. In addition to the ride itself, the pavilion changed in so many ways. It's a great watch!
 

draybook

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I like the current version, although I never experienced the first two incarnations. This may also be my son's favorite ride in all of WDW.

Honestly, I'd rather them close Nemo before this ride. At least Imagination doesn't have a 10 minute queue line for a 4 minute ride......
 

The Empress Lilly

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The current Imagination is not without its redeeming features. In fact, it is an okay little darkride of sorts, I try to enjoy it for what it is. It does mistake 'gimmick' for originality, and 'tricks and effects' for imagination. The ride is a collection of effects with Figment thrown in.

The original was infinitely better. Like comparing Miley Cyrus with a Mendelsohn symphony. The orginal had larger sets, was longer, had beautifully designed 3d sets. It also took you on an adventure, a dreamlike state. There were genuinely artistic elements to it, such as the mural, the white room, and Dreamfinder's painting.

Above all, Imagination3.0 is a product of Epcot2.0, of post-ironic Disney, self-conmscious, self-referential, thinks itself and the audience too cool for classic innocent Disney, foregoing its own storytelling for a prefab reliance on celebs and IPs. Whereas Imagination 1.0 is a product of classic EPCOT and classic WDW, with its unashamed lyricism, unbridled optimism, a product proud of itself and secure in its innocent simplicity.
 

JohnD

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I like the current version (3.0). At least it has Figment. Never rode the previous version (2.0). I heard it was horrible. Rode the original (1.0) at inception. But I like the original better. One can only hope that the refurb starting in January is bringing back the original version.
 

mweier

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FYI this video of martin's may be a better (albeit LONG) explanation of the ways the attraction has changed -- the one you posted is more focused on what's changed in the imageworks electronic playground.



Like John D, I rode the original several times in the 80's and then never rode again until I hit v3.0 last year. I do like the new one OK, and Eric Idle is a great replacement for what was apparently Rick Moranis; however I don't feel like it's as focused on the core elements of imagination such as "sources of inspiration" as much as the original; instead, there are things focused more on the senses which is a different thing in my mind. I will definitely always have a special place in my memories for the original Dreamfinder.


There is no way to simply say it because everything was different. It was not a subtle change like adding Captain Jack to POTC. The track changed, the entire story changed and, for a while, all the characters changed. You really need to watch Martin's video.

http://www.martinsvids.net/?p=554
 

Bairstow

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FYI this video of martin's may be a better (albeit LONG) explanation of the ways the attraction has changed -- the one you posted is more focused on what's changed in the imageworks electronic playground.



Like John D, I rode the original several times in the 80's and then never rode again until I hit v3.0 last year. I do like the new one OK, and Eric Idle is a great replacement for what was apparently Rick Moranis; however I don't feel like it's as focused on the core elements of imagination such as "sources of inspiration" as much as the original; instead, there are things focused more on the senses which is a different thing in my mind. I will definitely always have a special place in my memories for the original Dreamfinder.


Eric Idle's "Dr. Nigel Channing" was the main character in version 2 as well, though after the preshow he wasn't really seen; his voice narrated the ride.

In my mind, versions 2 and 3 are equally awful.
Whereas version 2 was empty and soulless the current version is annoying and puerile.

The original version was every bit as awesome as everyone says it is and had the best post-show area of all time.

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Chrononymous

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Ok...comparison of the original
in words

You began the journey with meeting the Dreamfinder, and his incredible tricked out fantasy steampunk flying machine.
You moved along with him, as if you (and a few other cars) had your own private show.
He explained how he searched the uiniverse to find anything that would spark the imagination, and introduced you to Figment...the loveable dragon chimera made up of different elements.

Then...you entered the Dreamport, and room after room of amazing large detailed displays, showcasing how imagination is used...in art, performance, literature, science, each room being more amazing than the last. There were video displays, beautiful 3D props that the cars meandered through, and figment popped up in each room to take you along for the tour. There were a couple of video tricks and special effects too...but they were hidden among the rest of the detail in the rooms, and didn't stand out against plain backgrounds.

In comparison, the current ride seems to lack some imagination.
 

G8rchamps

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I like the current version, although I never experienced the first two incarnations. This may also be my son's favorite ride in all of WDW.

Honestly, I'd rather them close Nemo before this ride. At least Imagination doesn't have a 10 minute queue line for a 4 minute ride......
Shoot - it takes 10 minutes just to walk through the empty queue to walk on Nemo.

I remember loving the original JII, still have a 24inch figment, but does anyone else think some of the later scenes were concepted in the "late 70's". It gets a little trippy man.

The new ride is fine and the kids enjoy it, I'm just glad Im not the imagineer who has to fix it again!
 

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