Which is why I stated “I recommend”. It’s obviously his choice and I’m certain he’s intelligent enough to realize this, without you pointing it out. As for being "ruder", I believe you only perceive this as such because I;m one of the few who finds faults in your arguments.
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Which is why I stated “I recommend”. It’s obviously his choice and I’m certain he’s intelligent enough to realize this, without you pointing it out. As for being "ruder", I believe you only perceive this as such because I;m one of the few who finds faults in your arguments.
General Grizz
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Oh, we've had rude people. Plenty of them. They ended up in Maelstrom. 
Faults, eh? I'm under the impression you look for them. Did you read the BTMR article?
Faults, eh? I'm under the impression you look for them. Did you read the BTMR article?
I'm quite familiar with that article and I won't question its authenticity. What I do question is you directly correlating this to Eisner, without further evidence, as you have not yet provided satisfactory proof (for me at least, the others seem quite contempt). I also draw into question one (not specifically you) blaming Eisner for every “fault” they perceive Disney has. Surely one doesn’t blame Bill Gates for every problem Microsoft encounters,
Heyyall
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What faults are you talking about? You think you find faults in everyone's arguments, when really, you have no opinions, you just like to cause trouble. I think most people from reading this would find you the ruder one, especially when you call us people on the board disillusional for thinking we make a difference. In fact, you are the one who puts words in people's mouths. Did any of us say we thought we made a difference? NO! We're here to discuss what we think about Disney and things such as rumors. See unlike you, I am the one who gives examples. You arejust insulting all of us people on the board. You're disrupting our threads when we try to discuss things by jumpin on everything someone says, when meanwhile, nothing you sayd makes sense.
General Grizz
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Eisner is CEO of Disney.
(OH WAIT! I need to prove that. Dang it!)
A CEO runs the company.
(Do I need to prove this?!??! Ah!)
The company has gone downhill in quality based on management standards. The CEO has the power fix this management.
(Does this need to be proved?)
Rude Cast Members exist all over the parks. . . read all of the threads. That's not to say there aren't NICE Cast Members - of COURSE there are!
But the standards of running the company (as in, the SOLE focus of the company being MONEY-MAKING - see the signature, Sir. I do have evidence for this one
- trickles down into the decreased nature of Cast Members. . . hired and laid off regularly, given little pay, and thus, less likely to care about the attractions that they maintain.
Of course this is just ONE event. And Eisner is not FULLY responsible. But it trickles to him, surely. I simply wrote about THIS one, because this AFFECTED DIRECTLY the vacation. I didn't go into animation or Dimension Films (Disney owning films such as Scary Movie), etc. . .
Trickle trickle trickle.
(Want me to demonstrate with a hose?)
Eisner's focus is not on the magic. (Again, see the sig.)
(OH WAIT! I need to prove that. Dang it!)
A CEO runs the company.
(Do I need to prove this?!??! Ah!)
The company has gone downhill in quality based on management standards. The CEO has the power fix this management.
(Does this need to be proved?)
Rude Cast Members exist all over the parks. . . read all of the threads. That's not to say there aren't NICE Cast Members - of COURSE there are!
But the standards of running the company (as in, the SOLE focus of the company being MONEY-MAKING - see the signature, Sir. I do have evidence for this one
- trickles down into the decreased nature of Cast Members. . . hired and laid off regularly, given little pay, and thus, less likely to care about the attractions that they maintain.Of course this is just ONE event. And Eisner is not FULLY responsible. But it trickles to him, surely. I simply wrote about THIS one, because this AFFECTED DIRECTLY the vacation. I didn't go into animation or Dimension Films (Disney owning films such as Scary Movie), etc. . .
Trickle trickle trickle.
(Want me to demonstrate with a hose?)
Eisner's focus is not on the magic. (Again, see the sig.)
Originally posted by grizzlyhall
Eisner is CEO of Disney.
(OH WAIT! I need to prove that. Dang it!)
A CEO runs the company.
(Do I need to prove this?!??! Ah!)
The company has gone downhill in quality based on management standards. The CEO has the power fix this management.
(Does this need to be proved?)
Rude Cast Members exist all over the parks. . . read all of the threads. That's not to say there aren't NICE Cast Members - of COURSE there are!
But the standards of running the company (as in, the SOLE focus of the company being MONEY-MAKING - see the signature, Sir. I do have evidence for this one
Eisner's focus is not on the magic. (Again, see the sig.)
Self referencing other’s opinions on this forum is not what I’d consider evidence. Also, just because Eisner is CEO does not make him responsible for every individual problem you have with Disney.
"Eisner's focus is not on the magic. " Obviously, as all corportions main object is to make a profit. With profit the "magic" can come.
Heyyall
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:lol: Man, I felt bad about having an argument with someone on this board in a different post, but now I realize that it wasn't me, it's someone out to create a fight out of everything!
Question its authenticity? This isn't a detectice agency! It's a Disney Discussion board! Discussion! Look at other forums! No one questions everything and if it's real or not. People give their opinion, not being a critic about whatever someone says. I laugh at the fact that you called others bitter!
No, I don't blame Bill Gates, but I blame you for casuing stupid fights on this board. Man, you enjoy this way too much
General Grizz
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*cough* SOLE focus *cough*
Major incident. One of few. I've given the website. . . read on.
I'm out to dinner. Ciao!
Major incident. One of few. I've given the website. . . read on.
I'm out to dinner. Ciao!
General Grizz
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Dose who speek de spirit of Norvhey face peril and advhenture!
(P.S. Don't feed the trolls! :zipit: :lol:
)OK, I'm really out to dinner this time. :lookaroun
General Grizz
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Heyall - I've learned from the greatest masters.
You know, andre. . .you're really familiar. If I recall, I remember you saying "Disregard [Member X]" because his opinion differed from yours. Hmm.
So I can just say, Disregard andre?
Not like I'm saying that. :lookaroun
P.S. DID SOMEONE SAY. . . TANGO?!!
(This time I'm closing the screen! :lol: )
You know, andre. . .you're really familiar. If I recall, I remember you saying "Disregard [Member X]" because his opinion differed from yours. Hmm.
So I can just say, Disregard andre?
Not like I'm saying that. :lookaroun
P.S. DID SOMEONE SAY. . . TANGO?!!
(This time I'm closing the screen! :lol: )
Heyyall
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Well I hope you don't have a problem with it..everyone who reads this will know what your main goal on the post is...trouble.
...by the way, why are you still here....don't fight with us, we're disillusional right? Stop wasting your time, which you said this forum is, and go do something more valuable.
I find it pretty funny how you actually had the nerve to say in another thread, "i pride myself in consistency".
You don't even realize how many times you doulbe-talk, and how your "points",(which is more just criticizing what we say and saying nothing of your own) MAKE NO SENSE.
ACE
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Hey andre85 I went back and read all of your posts on this board and the majority of the time your posts are argumentative. It seems to me, and it's only my opinion based on reading your posts, that you like stirring the pot.
The problem is that you contribute nothing to the discussion. You talk about other folks not backing up what they say with "facts" and that's all you say. Over and over again and again.
If you have something to contribute, without putting down the other folks who post here, then please do. If not you may not be around too long.
I'm just trying to give you some advice if you want to keep posting here.
Take Care,
:wave: ACE
The problem is that you contribute nothing to the discussion. You talk about other folks not backing up what they say with "facts" and that's all you say. Over and over again and again.
If you have something to contribute, without putting down the other folks who post here, then please do. If not you may not be around too long.
I'm just trying to give you some advice if you want to keep posting here.
Take Care,
:wave: ACE
Back to the topic.
I don't think he's ruining that many vacations. What Eisner is ruining is Animation, the Theme Parks in a way (clones, lack of upkeep, poor CMs), and diluting and removing some of the goodwill of the Disney brand.
And Disney never lost money after 2001. They still made a good profit, especially Eisner. CMs got laid off, hours cut. Now that money's coming back in, Eisner will probally get another huge bonus, while CM get nothing.
I don't think he's ruining that many vacations. What Eisner is ruining is Animation, the Theme Parks in a way (clones, lack of upkeep, poor CMs), and diluting and removing some of the goodwill of the Disney brand.
And Disney never lost money after 2001. They still made a good profit, especially Eisner. CMs got laid off, hours cut. Now that money's coming back in, Eisner will probally get another huge bonus, while CM get nothing.