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Slpy3270

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Netflix stock getting downgraded like crazy by analysts and banks today. Interestingly the other streaming players (Disney in particular) have been crickets.
 

MisterPenguin

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Netflix stock getting downgraded like crazy by analysts and banks today. Interestingly the other streaming players (Disney in particular) have been crickets.
I would think for several reasons:

1. Short term speculators always cause a sell-off at any whiff of bad news. They're racing one another to sell off before the stock hits its new floor. Meanwhile, there is a floor because the majority of the stock is held by long term investors who aren't trying to outgame one another in the short term.

2. Netflix is supposed to be in its era of profitability (as opposed to the many years of big losses in order to gain market share). And this quarter showed they're back into red as they compete with the other streamers for worldwide penetration and buying new content. So... that's worrying.

3. DIS stock is just more than its streamer. Parks and cruises are back (mostly), and the linear channels are still robust. And stockholders have been warned every quarter that D+ will be in the red for several years as it expands. So, there's no panic when the streaming segment is still in the red.
 

MisterPenguin

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Peacock (NBC/Comcast/Universal/Dreamworks) and Paramout+ (Viacom/CBS related to Showtime) are flailing about.

First. There is no good reason for Paramount+ and its sister subsidiary, Showtime, to remain separate. Just like Disney has been merging and bundling all its assets for the past two year, NBC/Comcast is all like, "Hey, maybe we should do that, too!"


And now, in certain parts of the world that don't currently get Paramount+ nor Peacock, the two streamers have created a merged streaming service called SkyShowtime:


Is this a sign they know they both won't be able to survive on their own and this is the first tentative step toward a merger of their streamers? <shrug>


Also, Paramount+ is becoming the Star Trek Network:
  • Discovery (2017–present)
  • Picard (2020–present)
  • Lower Decks (2020–present)
  • Prodigy (2021–present)
  • Strange New Worlds (Just announced)
  • Section 31 (in the works)

And in self-inflicted wound news. ATT is divesting itself of Warner Bros/Discover, whose properties feed into HBO Max. (HBO has lost being fed by 20th Century, Universal, and Lionsgate/Summit).

 

MisterPenguin

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1. So, Disney and Netflix made a deal with Sony such that Sony's pictures would, after leaving the theaters, go first to Netflix in the Pay 1 Window, then go to live on Disney+ for the Pay 2 Window. Disney would also get to put a lot (if not all) of Sony's library on D+/Hulu.

2. Previously, Sony's Animation was going to Netflix in the Pay1, but, Sony's Live-Action was going to Starz (corporate sibling of Lionsgate/Summit).

(Sony can play the field like this because that studio doesn't run a liear or streaming channel, nor does Sony have a corporate sister or overlord that runs a streamer.)

3. The new Sony/Netflix/Disney deal begins in 2022. All Sony Live and Animated goes to Netflix, then Disney.

4. However... Spider-Man: No Way Home was a movie made in 2021. So, where will it go?

5. Starz has just announced that they'll be getting Spider-Man's Pay1 some time later this year. After all, that's the contract. So, while other Sony/Marvel films may migrate to D+ sooner than later, it will be later for No Way Home.

6. As a side note, Starz/Lionsgate/Summit have made no secret over how much they would love to be bought out by some bigger player in the streaming wars. Starz only now has Lionsgate/Summit as a feeder, and that ain't going to cut it. This makes this announcement from Starz rather funny...

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/spider-man-no-way-home-heading-to-starz-over-the-next-6-months/

The CEO says this is "all part of their strategy"... a strategy of *retention.* No Way Home was their last Sony movie that they're able to *retain*.
 

Slpy3270

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ViacomCBS reported increased subscriber additions but missed on earnings, recording a 73% drop in profit due to streaming investments.

So how is ViacomCBS (sorry, "Paramount" effective tomorrow) responding? Put more eggs in the streaming basket!

Investors responding accordingly. Stock down 6.6% after-hours.
 

MisterPenguin

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Slpy3270

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Netflix earnings out.

EPS beat $3.53 vs $2.92
Rev miss $7.87 B vs $7.94 B

But the big story: Netflix is expecting to lose (that's right, lose) 2 million subs this quarter. Absolutely shocking.
 

MisterPenguin

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Slpy3270

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$200 billion in market cap gone in three months.
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MisterPenguin

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OMG


They're foot-shooting harder than Paramount+ !!

It hurts my brain that all of CNN shows aren't available on one merged streamer that includes HBO, DC, CNN+ extra shows, Warner Bros; plus all their B-tier TV channels: Discovery, Animal Planet, Science Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, TLC, HGTV, Food Network, Cartoon Network, Boomerang, Adult Swim, Cartoonito, and Discovery Family, Warner Bros. Animation, Cartoon Network Studios, Williams Street, Hanna-Barbera.

CNN+ could have plussed the streamer as well as appear on the channel.
 

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