Abnormally Incorrect Posted Wait-Times

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Guests entering the park have no direct effect on wait times. Just because guests are entering the park doesn’t mean that a specific attraction will see an influx.
Of course. I simply meant that an influx occurs at park entrance would be the first alert to the system which would in turn perhaps activate a notification for CM's to be prepared or some other form of readiness for wait times to increase.

As you mentioned, the system is most likely able to adjust depending on guests entering each attraction. I wonder if there is a notification sent for the human element of the equation?
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
If our experience this weekend with the "updated" DCL website is any indication, I'm not surprised one bit by this.

For those who didn't/don't know, they apparently "updated" the DCL website this past weekend, to improve performance, fix bugs, and do some UI tweaking. I've never received "Internal Server 500" errors like we did this weekend. Not the usual, "Stitch ate the page" or "The Seven Dwarves are working on it" pages usually seen, actual "500 - Internal Server Error" messages, which means something went really wrong ("Crapped the bed, in technical terms ;) ) on the back-end. Being an IT person, this kind of thing is inexcusable and heads would/should roll.

(sarcasm=on) Bravo, Disney IT, another great job... (end sarcasm)
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
In Tim Tracker's vlog yesterday of visiting DHS, he got on the SDD ride which posted a 70 minute wait... and that was pretty much exactly how long he waited.

So, if ride wait times are purposely inflated, then here is an unexplained exception to the rule in which no inflation took place.
 

mikejs78

Well-Known Member
In Tim Tracker's vlog yesterday of visiting DHS, he got on the SDD ride which posted a 70 minute wait... and that was pretty much exactly how long he waited.

So, if ride wait times are purposely inflated, then here is an unexplained exception to the rule in which no inflation took place.
In Tim's video, the wait time went up to 80 *immediately* after he got in line....
 

Stripes

Premium Member
you don't get passion for poverty wages/you get what you pay for.
disney wants better quality, disney can pay for better quality.
they got exactly $8.25 an hour worth of effort from me and not one ounce more. if they want more, they can pay for more.
As someone who has worked in retail at minimum wage, that's exactly the wrong way to look at it. When I was working the last thing on my mind was what I was getting paid. You have to view it differently than "work" and instead an opportunity to brighten the lives of others. A full time job at minimum wage is not poverty unless one has a family to support. It may be hard work, but it's low-skill and plenty of people would trip over themselves to replace a slacker, seemingly such as yourself.
 

monothingie

Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop
Premium Member
Back on topic -

From what I understand, it is a software malfunction. CMs were often unable to update the time displayed on their sign at multiple attractions and parks throughout the day (and apparently a few days prior).

The MagicBands can actually track your position in the parks, which is used by WDW for crowd estimations. They can use this information for planning crowd control, alternate paths, and even wait-time inflation. However, it's not perfect. I doubt guests entering the park has a direct effect on wait-time estimations, like you said.


 

GlacierGlacier

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
In Tim Tracker's vlog yesterday of visiting DHS, he got on the SDD ride which posted a 70 minute wait... and that was pretty much exactly how long he waited.

So, if ride wait times are purposely inflated, then here is an unexplained exception to the rule in which no inflation took place.
Meanwhile, posted for me was 110 and the actual was 80. Mileage varies with the big E-tickets.

I've found TouringPlans Lines to be the most accurate - but it's still just an estimate.

Disney DOES inflate ride times on certain attractions sizabley to drive crowds away and spread out guests. I talked with an Ops manager and they confirmed this with me.

From my personal experience, big Es like FoP and SDD will often be around 70-80 minutes actual with posted varying from 70-120 minutes. There are exceptions, such as peak times where the actual will match the posted, but for the most part that holds true.

And again, the issue I've heard is not related to an intentional inflation, but an inability in older queues to update wait times. This would result in wait times posted that are much shorter than the actual wait times.
 

GlacierGlacier

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Disney is about at $10 an hour right now. Average rent for a one bedroom/studio in Orlando is around $1000. You have to make three times your rent to apply for a lease. That's would mean working around 100 hours a week to afford an apartment. So... no, you're mathematically wrong. The fact that many of you will overlook facts so that you can keep wearing your mouse ears (made my slaves in distant countries) says a lot about who you are as individuals.
I disagree with you on a few things, but pay is not one of them.

I'll take lower pay to work at a job I enjoy, sure. But I need to actually be able to afford to work the job. Housing, transportation, all of that must not only be sufficiently covered by pay but employees should also be able to have enough leftover to not have to live paycheck to paycheck.

Enough for me right now? If I got a job on the campus where I live, I'd be satisfied with anywhere from $9 up. No transportation, housing is covered by scholarships, etc. Later? When I'm independent and not a college student?

Let's just say that I think the technical internship pay is quite fair.

(Disney: $25/hr, Universal: $17.50/hr)
 

JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Of course you are! Only an AP would be pompous enough to be told "it was a computer error" but still rail/believe that it was cast error that took fifteen extra minutes out of your OH SO PRECIOUS TIME!!!! Only an AP would think they know more than the people who actually were trained in this area! If I had a dollar for everytime an AP thought they knew my job better than I did when I worked for Disney, I wouldn't be one of the 70,000 people whose credit scores got wrecked by Mickey Mouse.
Sit down, little guy. You were wrong.

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Stripes

Premium Member
Disney is about at $10 an hour right now. Average rent for a one bedroom/studio in Orlando is around $1000. You have to make three times your rent to apply for a lease. That's would mean working around 100 hours a week to afford an apartment. So... no, you're mathematically wrong. The fact that many of you will overlook facts so that you can keep wearing your mouse ears (made by slaves in distant countries) says a lot about who you are as individuals.
First of all, that's an average, not a minimum. Second, that's what roommates are for. It's a low-skill job, did you think you didn't have to make sacrifices, such as having an apartment all to yourself? You're talking to someone who at one point made minimum wage and had a more than comfortable living in the Seattle Metropolitan Area, an area far more expensive than Orlando.

Based on your posting history, you strike me as someone with an axe to grind against capitalism. I say take it up with the politicians.
 
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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
If our experience this weekend with the "updated" DCL website is any indication, I'm not surprised one bit by this.

For those who didn't/don't know, they apparently "updated" the DCL website this past weekend, to improve performance, fix bugs, and do some UI tweaking. I've never received "Internal Server 500" errors like we did this weekend. Not the usual, "Stitch ate the page" or "The Seven Dwarves are working on it" pages usually seen, actual "500 - Internal Server Error" messages, which means something went really wrong ("Crapped the bed, in technical terms ;) ) on the back-end. Being an IT person, this kind of thing is inexcusable and heads would/should roll.

(sarcasm=on) Bravo, Disney IT, another great job... (end sarcasm)
Must be all that expertise they imported when they got rid of all those expensive American IT workers...
 

Stripes

Premium Member
I think the words you're looking for is "I was wrong, I'm sorry."
The world has changed. This isn't "at one point", these are the facts for 2018.
I'm pretty young, FYI. "At one point" means not now. I was in retail 2 years ago. Never once did I hear anybody complaining about their living conditions.

I've got a question for you: what do CMs deserve in your opinion?
 

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