abercrombie question

[NemoRocks78]

Wow, finally took the time to pop into this thread and check out what was happening. I actually went into Abercrombie and Fitch today when at the mall this morning (i'm more of a Champs-Foot Locker-JCPenny-Dilliards-Macys-w/e type of guy) cause I wanted to check out some clothes. I had been in there before but never was interested, I don't know why I was today but I wound up buying two A&F shirts. I thought they were pretty decent and nice looking. I have noticed all that advertising stuff, but its never bothered me. I've seen even worse advertising, if this is "so bad" you should check out the new Virgin Mobile commercials on TV.

 

[Fievel]

I personally HATE Abercrombie for the same reason I hate stores like the Gap.

1st off - you're paying twice as much for a store that is selling an image more than a product. Sure - that's what they're going for, but is that reason enough to shop there? You can find pretty much the same shirt at most department stores for a fraction of the price.

2 - They sell shirts with the word "Abercrombie" on them. What is this? Are these kids actually PAYING to advertise the store? Who was the first kid to get one of these shirts to school and suddenly be the coolest person ever? If I'm going to wear a store's name on my shirt, they better be paying me. If you're going to buy a shirt from that store with a word on the front, let's at least be honest and put the word "pretentious" on it.

3- I went to the Mall of America recently (it's less than an hour away), and they actually had the naked models out front. And guess what they were wearing? Next to nothing. And people were posing for pictures and all the pre-teen and teen girls were taking their picture with the naked guy. Is this cool? How about you sell the clothes, okay?


I'm sorry if I offend anybody who actually shops there - but for $50 a shirt there, I can get a complete outfit that's indestinguishable at Target.

 

[Yellow Shoes]

There was a story in an alternative newspaper (the kind you typically pick up at a restaurant or bar) about 2 months ago about A&F. Here is the link

Admittedly the tone was "A&F is evil". That kind of newspaper is very anti-establishment, anti-strip mall, anti-national chain store of any kind.

What the article talked about was their hiring practices.

Their sales people are expected to be picture perfect. Store managers regularly hang out on college campuses recruiting. When district managers come to visit, the less attractive clerks are not scheduled to work, because if they are, the DM will write comments like, "Get the horse-faced fat girl off the floor. She is killing sales."

Although A&F cannot have a formal policy re the attractiveness of the sales force, the managers do "punish" the homely by not scheduling them to work.

 

[DopeyFan]

Hmmm.... I wonder. Just because there are "worse" ad campaigns out there, does that make A&F's appropriate? Yeah, Virgin Mobile might push the envelope even more. That doesn't mean that Abercrombie's stuff is suitable...especially for their demographic.

Little Mr. Small-Minded over here

 

[stitch rocks]

any one remember the "2 wongs don't make a white" shirts they were selling 2 years ago... well the case was settled and my friend got 200 bucks from the settlement... but about advertizing... they made this shirt to get free publicity... how low can they go...

 

[Abercrombie Kid]

WOW! This discussion is really interesting! Their are many people who do not like AnF. Many goths/punks think that AnF is really preppy (which it is) and is too expensive. But for those who like AnF clothes and can afford it i think that it is awesome. I am a Christain but the abercrombie models never bother me because it is a trend that u see everywhere, it's not the best way to market but their isn't anything u can do about it. As for the subject that their workers hired in a discrimitive way. But I have seen people of most races working there. But when u look at other stores they are the same (Sean John, Fubu.) So u can look at this any way u would like, but 4 me Abercrombie is awesome.
AnForever

 

[darthdarrel]

Originally posted by Abercrombie Kid
WOW! This discussion is really interesting! Their are many people who do not like AnF. Many goths/punks think that AnF is really preppy (which it is) and is too expensive. But for those who like AnF clothes and can afford it i think that it is awesome. I am a Christain but the abercrombie models never bother me because it is a trend that u see everywhere, it's not the best way to market but their isn't anything u can do about it. As for the subject that their workers hired in a discrimitive way. But I have seen people of most races working there. But when u look at other stores they are the same (Sean John, Fubu.) So u can look at this any way u would like, but 4 me Abercrombie is awesome.
AnForever

Where do you see it everywhere?
My brother Anthony likes clothes from aroepostale and I go in there and they have pictures of OMG! People with Clothes on! What the heck is a clothing store doing having photos of orgies have anything to do with abercrombie jeans and shirts? Not to mention like Fievel said I can go into target or wal mart and get the EXACT shirt and jeans for HALF the price. I don`t care if it`s preppie or not. and you say there is nothing you can do about it, well yes there is, don`t shop there. right now there is a boycott against abercrombie and fitch and you want to know something, It`s working cause abercrombie and fitch stocks have been plummeting for 5 months now, they may get a slight boost from the Christmas shopping binge, but after that I`m sure they are going to plummet even further.

 

[MicBat]

Originally posted by darthdarrel
Where do you see it everywhere?
My brother Anthony likes clothes from aroepostale and I go in there and they have pictures of OMG! People with Clothes on! What the heck is a clothing store doing having photos of orgies have anything to do with abercrombie jeans and shirts? Not to mention like Fievel said I can go into target or wal mart and get the EXACT shirt and jeans for HALF the price. I don`t care if it`s preppie or not.

And get this!!... if they have holes in them!!!.... you'll never believe it!!.... THEY'RE DISCOUNTED!!!! :dazzle:

 

[Erika]

As someone has mentioned- I don't know if it was here or elsewhere- if you were found with comparable photos on your computer, you could get in a lot of trouble. It's inappropriate and dangerous to depict children in that manner. We don't have kids yet but my husband has already begun with the "NO CHILD OF MINE..." :lol: which I guess makes him a decent person. It's truly diusturbing. I thought I read that they were going to stop with the catalogs. I think that is a step in the right direction.

 

[Scooter]

::Giggle:: Maria said "Developing Cleavage"

 

[DopeyFan]

Originally posted by Abercrombie Kid
I am a Christain but the abercrombie models never bother me because it is a trend that u see everywhere, it's not the best way to market but their isn't anything u can do about it.

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Yikes! This reasoning is scary. If this thinking were to carry over into other aspects of life, we'd be in a huge pile of...stuff (which we are!)

Are we to assume that there is nothing we can do about raunchy trends? Bad assumption.

 

[mkepcotmgmak]

this is all good conversation, but the purpose for my post was ... what was going on about abercrombie and the gay community? was abercrombie offending gays? or was abercrombie only hiring gay models? it was something like this????

 

[Fievel]

Originally posted by Abercrombie Kid
WOW! This discussion is really interesting! Their are many people who do not like AnF. Many goths/punks think that AnF is really preppy (which it is) and is too expensive. But for those who like AnF clothes and can afford it i think that it is awesome. I am a Christain but the abercrombie models never bother me because it is a trend that u see everywhere, it's not the best way to market but their isn't anything u can do about it. As for the subject that their workers hired in a discrimitive way. But I have seen people of most races working there. But when u look at other stores they are the same (Sean John, Fubu.) So u can look at this any way u would like, but 4 me Abercrombie is awesome.
AnForever

1) The fact that you're a christian should be your FIRST reason you should be against that kind of advertising. If the clothes are that great, they'll stand up on their own with little or no advertising.

2) True, this may be a trend we're seeing everywhere, but that doesn't make it right.

3) You didn't get the point in the discrimination article. The article stated not that they discriminate in their hiring practices, but that they limit hours to those that are "more attractive".

4) Telling us that SeanJohn and Fubu are the same so it's okay isn't really a valid arguement. Most people that are going to hate A and F will also hate those other brands.

5) You managed to offend a few different people in your posts. You took a shot at punk/goths and those who can't afford their clothes. Listen junior - I CAN afford to shop at that store, but I refuse to pay that much. That store is failing for one reason and one reason only. Bad business practices. You can't charge $40-$50 for a shirt and get away with it for too long. When you move out of your parent's house and have to pay your own bills, you'll realize that money doesn't stretch as far as you think. I can think of a lot better things to do with that kind of money than pay twice as much as I should for 2nd rate clothing.



If I wanted a pair of "broken in jeans" I'll do it the old fashioned way - I'll run them over with my car.

 

[wdwfan22]

I think we should leave religion out of the conversation before someone gets offended. I guess I'm the only one that loves Abercrombie clothes. I buy from them all the time. I've never had a problem with the quality of merchandise. The vintage look is is right now, if you don't want to buy clothes that look faded don't shop there. It's as easy as that. As for the advertising point, ______ sales. Yeah it may not be right, but it does move the merchandise.


Fievel also mentioned that you can't charge $40 or $50 a shirt and get away with it. Yes you can. Versace, Armani and Gucci are fine examples. Each of them also feature the vintage look that Abercrombie is offering. Hardly second rate.

 

[darthdarrel]

Originally posted by wdwfan22
I think we should leave religion out of the conversation before someone gets offended. I guess I'm the only one that loves Abercrombie clothes. I buy from them all the time. I've never had a problem with the quality of merchandise. The vintage look is is right now, if you don't want to buy clothes that look faded don't shop there. It's as easy as that. As for the advertising point, ______ sales. Yeah it may not be right, but it does move the merchandise.


Fievel also mentioned that you can't charge $40 or $50 a shirt and get away with it. Yes you can. Versace, Armani and Gucci are fine examples. Each of them also feature the vintage look that Abercrombie is offering. Hardly second rate.

True you can get away with charging 50 bucks for a shirt you can get for 20 bucks some where else, but why would you want to? I`m sorry if I see a shirt for 50 bucks at one place and I see the same EXACT shirt somewhere else for 20 bucks why in the hell would you even want to pay the 50 bucks? Just cause it`s from abercrombie? Give me a break!
I am not a PRENTIOUS person that needs to feel important sporting my Designer tags around!

 

[MicBat]

OK... This thread has definitely veered from it's original purpose. Why should any of you care what someone else has to wear??? If someone wants to wear Abercrombie and someone else wants to wear WalMart or heck... if someone wants to wear a bathrobe, what's to stop them?? If that's what they like, who cares??? Who cares what the clothes look like, how much they cost, or how the product is advertised??? It's all a matter of personal opinion. Now that that's out of the way.... back to the original question at hand....

Has anyone heard anything in the news about Abercrombie and Fitch and the gay community??

 

[darthdarrel]

Originally posted by MicBat
OK... This thread has definitely veered from it's original purpose. Why should any of you care what someone else has to wear??? If someone wants to wear Abercrombie and someone else wants to wear WalMart or heck... if someone wants to wear a bathrobe, what's to stop them?? If that's what they like, who cares??? Who cares what the clothes look like, how much they cost, or how the product is advertised??? It's all a matter of personal opinion. Now that that's out of the way.... back to the original question at hand....

Has anyone heard anything in the news about Abercrombie and Fitch and the gay community??

No, sorry I haven`t heard any contravery other then the nude models.

 

[mkepcotmgmak]

Originally posted by darthdarrel
True you can get away with charging 50 bucks for a shirt you can get for 20 bucks some where else, but why would you want to? I`m sorry if I see a shirt for 50 bucks at one place and I see the same EXACT shirt somewhere else for 20 bucks why in the hell would you even want to pay the 50 bucks? Just cause it`s from abercrombie? Give me a break!
I am not a PRENTIOUS person that needs to feel important sporting my Designer tags around!

well darrel, in all honesty, if someone pees in a jar, they can sell it for $100 dollars, and if people buy it, it's popular.

 

[darthdarrel]

Originally posted by mkepcotmgmak
well darrel, in all honesty, if someone pees in a jar, they can sell it for $100 dollars, and if people buy it, it's popular.

your right, I have just always been a practical person, I mean why pay 100 bucks for a jar of ______, when I can make my own for free! :lol:

 

[mkepcotmgmak]

Originally posted by darthdarrel
your right, I have just always been a practical person, I mean why pay 100 bucks for a jar of ______, when I can make my own for free! :lol:

oh no, i completely understand, i feel the same way sometimes about certain things. fact is though, if ______ in a jar is popular, it will sell.