A Spirited Summer Special (AKA Phil Holmes Takes Anaheim!)

Nubs70

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WDW1974 said:
Love the post, Chris.

I couldn't help but notice all the Tommy Bahama shirts and shorts on sale at Cast Connection for half price when I was there in May. And it wasn't exactly jumping off the racks. I love their stuff because I want to appear 15 years older than I am, divorced twice with three daughters (one with a drug problem, the other two who barely speak to me), a three-year-old 'pre-owned' BMW that I like to pass off as new, and a six-figure (low) salary as a Marketing VP for some insurance company that is likely to downsize my position out of existence in the next 12-36 months.

That's largely who buys Tommy Bahama stuff or the Columbia stuff etc ... they are at WDW often as part of conventions, but I'd love to know how mans TB shirts are sold at the YC or Contemporary gift stores over a 12-month period at full price.
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If there is a CM who could pick up one of the beige TB button downs, I'd gladly pay you $25 for your trouble. I like the shirt, but not $150 like.

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TP2000

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bugsbunny said:
700 room luxury hotel? Can they actually fill that? Its NOT Disney World. Unless you have money to burn and/or don't know any better, you can actually have hotel room closer to the parks staying OFF property and for 1/2 the price.
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Judging by the occupancy levels and rates at Grand Californian (that was expanded six years ago) and the Disneyland Hotel, they can fill it.

The new luxury hotel is also not just aimed at people going to the park. It's aimed at the convention business and the 22,000 other hotel rooms currently in the Anaheim Resort District.

The Anaheim Convention Center is the largest center on the West Coast, by a long shot. And it's currently being expanded again, to be completed in 2017. When the expansion opens, you could fit the square footage of the Seattle, Portland and San Francisco convention centers combined inside the Anaheim Convention Center, with room to spare.
 
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Stripes

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TP2000 said:
Judging by the occupancy levels and rates at Grand Californian (that was expanded six years ago) and the Disneyland Hotel, they can fill it.

The new luxury hotel is also not just aimed at people going to the park. It's aimed at the convention business and the 22,000 other hotel rooms currently in the Anaheim Resort District.

The Anaheim Convention Center is the largest center on the West Coast, by a long shot. And it's currently being expanded again, to be completed in 2017. When the expansion opens, you could fit the square footage of the Seattle, Portland and San Francisco convention centers combined inside the Anaheim Convention Center, with room to spare.
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San Diego and Moscone are pretty big too, right?
 
FigmentForver96

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I'm not sure how people can say Disney Springs is for the rich or for those with a lot of money. I am not rolling in money but I was able to find some great stuff at multiple of the new stores and spent less then 200 total. Out of the five stores I bought something from, four of them were the newer stores.

I'm sure they will do fine
 
RSoxNo1

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WDW1974 said:
Well, Disney jumped to put out Halloween info (that said very little), but apparently GG will indeed be back. As to the GotG Tower tale, they'll make up an elaborate backstory that makes no sense and takes an absurd amount of man hours and research and development $$$ to shoehorn it in where it does not belong.
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I've seen most Disney fan sites reporting Disney confirmed TOT would be available for Halloween Time.. Anyone know? I can't find the info they are citing.

Also, they have confirmed Fantasy in the Sky returning. I hope this is just to allow more work time on Star Wars land.... But I believe it is just to be cheap.. still going to run Halloween Screams for party nights...
 
LuvtheGoof

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FigmentForver96 said:
I'm not sure how people can say Disney Springs is for the rich or for those with a lot of money. I am not rolling in money but I was able to find some great stuff at multiple of the new stores and spent less then 200 total. Out of the five stores I bought something from, four of them were the newer stores.

I'm sure they will do fine
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But that doesn't fit in with some people's agenda, you know. Can't talk about reality. They won't believe you.
 
Nmoody1

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wdwmagic said:
Most of the stores that have opened so far at Disney Springs are doing incredibly well. A good number of them are the highest performing locations in their brand.

I would also counter the argument of targeting high class. Most clothing stores at Disney Springs have items between $35 and $100. UniQlo is going to be right down in the $20 category. We are not talking $1000 shoes, $800 dresses or $35,000 watches - like you can find at Mall at Millenia.
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Agree, although I still get a distinct 'desperate housewives of Disney Springs' feel - mommy and daughter out for a piece of cake at amourettes (a glass of champagne for mom), buying daddy a Tommy Bahama shirt whilst he is teeing off somewhere on property or getting a shave at Art of Shaving, taking the friends at home some chocolates from the Ganachery. I just don't see it calling out to the Pop Century/Caribbean beach crowd as much as it appeals more to the Grand Flo visitors. I know Disneys aim is to appeal to a more upmarket crowd, and I agree Uniqlo, Zara and and even Pandora appeal to the younger visitors and teens, but I still do think an opportunity has been missed - even if the shops I mentioned earlier made it into a different district of Disney Springs.

I have no doubt that most stores are doing very well, I also think that most will be around for some time - I know Westfield, when they built a mall next to London's Olympic Village tied tenants into 5 year leases - I imagine dismey have probably done the same.
 
Jon81uk

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JediMasterMatt said:
everyone understood that SW doesn't really fit in Walt's park (although of all "new" creative properties of the last century, SW has reached the cultural epoch that makes it an entire generations frontier/p ioneer model that Frontierland's spirit as based on).
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This often seems to be something people forget when talking about DisneyLand being "Walt's park". Although many attractions are now classic, a lot of the themes were based on what was popular at the time, or what Walt wanted to be popular, Cowboy movies were still popular so they built frontier land.

Star Wars redefined Science Fiction in the 1980s and therefore has proven it has staying power, it is worth including in Disneyland.
 
RobidaFlats

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Jon81uk said:
This often seems to be something people forget when talking about DisneyLand being "Walt's park". Although many attractions are now classic, a lot of the themes were based on what was popular at the time, or what Walt wanted to be popular, Cowboy movies were still popular so they built frontier land.

Star Wars redefined Science Fiction in the 1980s and therefore has proven it has staying power, it is worth including in Disneyland.
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There is a big difference though. Disney didn't build a 3:10 to Yumaland, he built Frontierland. There is a huge difference between creating a land set to a genre and a specific franchise.
 
JediMasterMatt

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DoubleJ21 said:
Is the slower pace of construction at WDW (in comparison to DLR) at the request of Burbank or TDO?
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Orlando moves slowly in general because they are cheap; but, SW specifically isn't further along because it wasn't planned/budgeted to open until later. Hopefully, the "go back to Disney School in Anaheim" message is going to include a bit of urgency in their actions. Saving some money by not putting more resource hours on the site may be good for the short term expenses, the long term consequences of having lower guest satisfaction isn't worth it. WDW needs these attractions online sooner, rather than later. WDW needs the eyesore that is DHS finished.

Re-learning what made Disney Parks special in the first place is what more time in Anaheim should manifest as.
 
Mike S

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TP2000 said:
Judging by the occupancy levels and rates at Grand Californian (that was expanded six years ago) and the Disneyland Hotel, they can fill it.

The new luxury hotel is also not just aimed at people going to the park. It's aimed at the convention business and the 22,000 other hotel rooms currently in the Anaheim Resort District.

The Anaheim Convention Center is the largest center on the West Coast, by a long shot. And it's currently being expanded again, to be completed in 2017. When the expansion opens, you could fit the square footage of the Seattle, Portland and San Francisco convention centers combined inside the Anaheim Convention Center, with room to spare.
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Will the expansion be done in time for D23?
RSoxNo1 said:
Andy Richter has:
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/disneyland-s-big-star-wars-1331893292302390.html
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That article says SWL is opening in 2017...

Would it kill them to do some fact checking?
 
Filby61

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RobidaFlats said:
There is a big difference though. Disney didn't build a 3:10 to Yumaland, he built Frontierland. There is a huge difference between creating a land set to a genre and a specific franchise.
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Exactly. If Iger had built Disneyland, there would have been no Frontierland -- it would have been Davy Crockett Land, a promotion for the megahit Crockett franchise. There would have been no Fantasyland, it would have been Sleeping Beauty Land, to promote the upcoming film (and certainly no Snow White, Peter Pan, Toad or Alice rides). There would have been no unifying theme of America's cultural take on nostalgia, history, exotic faraway adventure, childhood fantasy and the optimistic future -- just a grab bag of lands that promoted whatever was hot at the Studio at that time.

That's the essential difference with Star Wars Land. It's a continuation of Iger's flaccid vision of Disneyland as IPLand -- a platform for any and every hot IP that the company can buy and jam anywhere on the property, regardless of thematic appropriateness or how it affects the overall experience of the Park.
 
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