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LuvtheGoof

Grill Master
Premium Member
The concept that the Merch is more important than the anniversary, i.e. it's more important to push cheap tat than celebrate the anniversary and as an extension of the celebration have souvenirs available to purchase as a reminder.
But they've had merch for pretty much every anniversary. :confused: Of course, they didn't have Youtube or the Internet for most of the past anniversaries, so I fail to see an issue with them using them for advertising the new merch. Just because it was an ad for merch, doesn't mean they think the merch is more important. Just how you look at it does, since you don't think TWDC does anything nowadays that cares about anything except dollars.
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
If your proposed thought is to put Star Wars next to the freeway, would that mean they should build the new parking structure next to Rivers of America? (I'm being facetious, but I'd actually like to hear your idea further fleshed-out because I'm probably missing some pieces to your plan.)
No, he's talking about the Toy Story parking lot, formerly the Fujishige strawberry fields, the company acquired 18 years ago. Disney also owns some of the land surrounding the property as well. The land has been the planned location of a third gate as far as the 1990 Disneyland Resort Master Plan.
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friedriches

Active Member
....... and? Lots of us are.

Hate to get into forum trivialities, especially w/ someone so respected, but there shouldn't be a debate here. It's clear it's bokeh. Probably some white wicker chairs in the foreground or something. I'm as untrusting as anyone of Disney's PR foolishness but this isn't trying to hide anything. It's just someone trying to add depth and get fancy with their Nifty Fifty.

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EDIT: It's the white chairs at the table. 110%. Means it was more likely a 70-200.
 

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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
But they've had merch for pretty much every anniversary. :confused: Of course, they didn't have Youtube or the Internet for most of the past anniversaries, so I fail to see an issue with them using them for advertising the new merch. Just because it was an ad for merch, doesn't mean they think the merch is more important. Just how you look at it does, since you don't think TWDC does anything nowadays that cares about anything except dollars.

Well this ad is another confirmation that Disney indeed does not care about anything EXCEPT money.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Hate to get into forum trivialities, especially w/ someone so respected, but there shouldn't be a debate here. It's clear it's bokeh. Probably some white wicker chairs in the foreground or something. I'm as untrusting as anyone of Disney's PR foolishness but this isn't trying to hide anything. It's just someone trying to add depth and get fancy with their Nifty Fifty.

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EDIT: It's the white chairs at the table. 110%. Means it was more likely a 70-200.

The Bokeh of a Holga perhaps, No I don't think Disney is trying to hide something Disney is just unwilling to hire a professional to create the desired effect and are arrogant enough to think the 'rubes' will never notice.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
No, it's simply an ad, just like every other company on the planet has. You really read too much into this stuff.

Ad's have concepts that drive them, Mad Men in the episode 'The Wheel' explored this in a very insightful manner.

This concept is we have merchandise to push, Not the other way around It's our 45'th anniversary and here are the commemorative items. I paid for school being a photographer So I have a little insight into how an ad campaign works.
 

NobodyElse

Well-Known Member
No, he's talking about the Toy Story parking lot, formerly the Fujishige strawberry fields, the company acquired 18 years ago. Disney also owns some of the land surrounding the property as well. The land has been the planned location of a third gate as far as the 1990 Disneyland Resort Master Plan.
westcot1_propertboundaries.jpg

Yes, I'm aware of the Toy Story lot / former Strawberry Farm. I still believe that someday that will be used for a stand-alone park/property of some sort. Because he was re-using that recent photo, the only part he was able to show is the plot earmarked for the new parking structure. If the implication was that they should have used Toy Story lot for Star Wars, that's a valid wish. But, I feel that (unless they are willing/able to set up a "Hogwarts Express" type of solution, that area is destined to be it's own park, and I don't see them building that up yet. So, if Disney wants to build Star Wars stuff NOW, their options are a bit limited.

PS: If that early 90's map you posted is implying that Disney owned/does own that contiguous area in the green boundary, I think it's safe to say that we now know that to be not quite accurate.
 

LuvtheGoof

Grill Master
Premium Member
Ad's have concepts that drive them, Mad Men in the episode 'The Wheel' explored this in a very insightful manner.

This concept is we have merchandise to push, Not the other way around It's our 45'th anniversary and here are the commemorative items. I paid for school being a photographer So I have a little insight into how an ad campaign works.
But again, it's an ad for merch. Nothing more, nothing less. Of course they are going to have an ad for merch. They do it all the time.
 

LuvtheGoof

Grill Master
Premium Member
I don't mind some 45th merch, but my gosh, can't we get something more unique than the same old tired products? Pins, mugs, shirts, Mickey ears? Yawwnn.

...Well, since new features in the parks, ride refurbs, new rides, more benches, more trees to provide shade, cleaner bathrooms, happier staff, and lower prices is out of the question....
Well, since she was talking about some sort of different merchandise, what the heck does your response have anything at all to do with that?????? Oh, and my opinion is that they are doing everything on your list, with the exception of lower prices.
 

alphac2005

Well-Known Member
Recall that UO was owned at the time by GE a finance oriented company run by "Neutron Jack" Welch so no surprise there

Ahhhh... The man, who with pride, would take an axe to 10% of GE's workforce annually with a proven to be flawed scoring and performance system. There's nothing like getting the most out of workers when they're held at gunpoint at all times. It's wonderful to see his replacement repudiate his "style" and told the market to just wait it out as the company is a long-term, not short-term proposition (ahem) and it has proven to be correct.
 

Soarin' Over Pgh

Well-Known Member
Well, since she was talking about some sort of different merchandise, what the heck does your response have anything at all to do with that?????? Oh, and my opinion is that they are doing everything on your list, with the exception of lower prices.

Calm down, it's only the internet.


Since the topic was merchandise- how about something new that we didn't know we need but we do? (I hope that doesn't sail right over your head)
 

LuvtheGoof

Grill Master
Premium Member
Calm down, it's only the internet.


Since the topic was merchandise- how about something new that we didn't know we need but we do? (I hope that doesn't sail right over your head)
She said she was bored with all the current offerings, and I asked what she suggested. So I'll ask you the same thing. What kind of merch should they offer? Unless you are bringing a solution to the table, don't bring a perceived problem. Hopefully, that won't sail over your head either. :D
 

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