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[Quinnmac000]

@Bairstow

Licenses

We have the exclusive right on a long-term basis to theme park usage of the Warner Bros. and DC Comics animated characters throughout the United States (except for the Las Vegas metropolitan area), Canada, Mexico and certain other countries. In particular, our license agreements entitle us to use, subject to customary approval rights of Warner Bros. and, in limited circumstances, approval rights of certain third parties, all animated, cartoon and comic book characters that Warner Bros. and DC Comics have the right to license, including Batman, Superman, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Tweety Bird and Yosemite Sam, and include the right to sell merchandise using the characters. In addition, certain Hanna-Barbera characters including Yogi Bear, Scooby-Doo and The Flintstones are available for our use at certain of our theme parks. In addition to annual license fees, we are required to pay a royalty fee on merchandise manufactured by or for us and sold that uses the licensed characters. Warner Bros. and Hanna-Barbera have the right to terminate their license agreements under certain circumstances, including if any persons involved in the movie or television industries obtain control of us or, in the case of Warner Bros., upon a default under the Subordinated Indemnity Agreement.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/701374/000104746913001833/a2213098z10-k.htm

 

[Bairstow]

@Bairstow


https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/701374/000104746913001833/a2213098z10-k.htm

Neat. Thanks.

Still, though, if Disney were to buy all the Six Flags parks West of the Mississippi, they could probably retheme all of them using their Marvel characters and the whole retooling part of the operation would cost less than a Pooh ride.

... that is, if Disney were content with keeping the parks at a Six Flags level of quality.

This is kind of a nightmare scenario, now that I think about it.

 

[ford91exploder]

Neat. Thanks.

Still, though, if Disney were to buy all the Six Flags parks West of the Mississippi, they could probably retheme all of them using their Marvel characters and the whole retooling part of the operation would cost less than a Pooh ride.

... that is, if Disney were content with keeping the parks at a Six Flags level of quality.

This is kind of a nightmare scenario, now that I think about it.

Why it nicely describes the state of the parks already and it gives them the chance to sack Matt Ouimet again...

 

[GoofGoof]

My question would be how will the blackouts be handled. Currently we have a set calendar. And I don't think that would be possible when it comes to new attractions opening because they always seem to be delayed. What if an AP has a vacation booked already and then all of sudden the blackouts get shifted because the ride isn't ready yet. They'd be pretty screwed.

This is the exact problem I was talking about with WDW. There are lifestylers, local AP holders and then there are "tourists" who buy APs. The tourist bucket is quite large and this plan doesn't work at all for people who would be planning trips well in advance. They would probably have to switch to 10 day tickets or just cut back on visits. Maybe DVC will start offering discount on magic your way tickets instead. The AP discounts would be virtually worthless with new stuff likely to open for the next 4 or 5 years.

 

[GoofGoof]

Ironically, this is the exact same proposal, except in reverse. So you don't have any problem screwing over the tourists instead?

This is a valid point. That's probably why they should just keep it as is. Maybe have some soft opening previews for DVC and AP holders just to work the kinks out before opening to the general public. If they are worried about crowd size just close DHS when it reaches capacity. This is really only a major issue with SW Land. They won't have unsafe crowd levels when Toy Story opens or even Avatar since AK is much bigger than DHS.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Why it nicely describes the state of the parks already and it gives them the chance to sack Matt Ouimet again...

He works at Cedar Faire

 

[FigmentJedi]

Unfortunately Iger is likely to go after Twitter because of his most recent delusional pronouncement 'Disney is now a tech company' yeah a third rate one who cannot even keep their website functional.

Or throws in the towel with video game development entirely.

 

[Mike S]

Or throws in the towel with video game development entirely.

And gives Star Wars exclusivity to the likes of EA.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Or throws in the towel with video game development entirely.

And gives Star Wars exclusivity to the likes of EA.

It's as if they don't realize they could have a gaming division that could be as successful WB Games. Disney just needs to be consistent.

 

[Cesar R M]

I haven't seen anyone do this over the last few pages. I have seen reasonable arguments from both sides.

Perhaps not on this thread or in the fast few pages. We had a plague of people using these excuses for hours and even days in many rumor threads.
It seems me and Mike S shut most of them down when we kept mocking them with this image.

 

[Cesar R M]

By the way, if Disney did end up buying Twitter, it would cost them around $20 Billion. Not sure the P&R and ESPN atm machines can afford such a large withdrawal. If Bob insists on one last acquisition, best to go in on TimeWarner with another company and take HBO.

or just snatch out netflix, they are producing quality comparable to HBO. And they could get finally a full already developed platform for all their movies.

 

[Cesar R M]

Unfortunately Iger is likely to go after Twitter because of his most recent delusional pronouncement 'Disney is now a tech company' yeah a third rate one who cannot even keep their website functional.

I agree with your target list would be more appropriate and likely a long term winners for Disney, But I expect them to do the stupid thing and go after twitter.

They cant be worse than Yahoo at this point. They have screwed almost everything they have touched.

 

[BrianLo]

If it ONLY does 100 million I will be surprised.

Only three Potters have pulled in greater than 100, really two that qualify as more than 'only'.

People are expecting Rouge One to do 25% of TFA's business and Fantastic Beasts 100% of Deathly Hallows?

Both predictions are wildly off and need to meet in the middle.

 

[Cesar R M]

This is a valid point. That's probably why they should just keep it as is. Maybe have some soft opening previews for DVC and AP holders just to work the kinks out before opening to the general public. If they are worried about crowd size just close DHS when it reaches capacity. This is really only a major issue with SW Land. They won't have unsafe crowd levels when Toy Story opens or even Avatar since AK is much bigger than DHS.

I actually wonder if disney will finally develop a tool for all my magic apps for phones, that tells you when a park is close to capacity and thus closing down.

 

[RSoxNo1]

WDW already has passes with blackout dates... Why is this news?

 

[the.dreamfinder]

or just snatch out netflix, they are producing quality comparable to HBO. And they could get finally a full already developed platform for all their movies.

Netflix would be too expensive. HBO could be seen as a cable counterweight to ESPN and streaming service with HBO NOW.

Also with Netflix, what happens when it costs $15 a month? HBO already costs that much and has a solid and growing subscriber base.

 

[Andrew C]

Perhaps not on this thread or in the fast few pages. We had a plague of people using these excuses for hours and even days in many rumor threads.
It seems me and Mike S shut most of them down when we kept mocking them with this image.
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But you're using it when no one is saying that.

 

[doctornick]

Only three Potters have pulled in greater than 100, really two that qualify as more than 'only'.

People are expecting Rouge One to do 25% of TFA's business and Fantastic Beasts 100% of Deathly Hallows?

Both predictions are wildly off and need to meet in the middle.

I have no idea what to expect from Fantastic Beasts and predictions are all over the place online. I'm skeptical about the idea of "pent up demand" though -- the last Harry Potter film wasn't that long ago and was actually well received, so you won't get the "finally a good x movie' that you got with The Force Awakens.

I have no doubt Fantastic Beasts will do well, but it will be an interesting test into what the public likes. Is it the "world" of Harry Potter and thus Muggles will enjoy seeing it expanded? Or is it more the specific characters of the HP series and Hogwarts? I guess we'll see in a few months.

Oh, and I like Moana's odds to outgross it, though I think that it could go either way easily depending on film quality.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I have no doubt Fantastic Beasts will do well, but it will be an interesting test into what the public likes. Is it the "world" of Harry Potter and thus Muggles will enjoy seeing it expanded? Or is it more the specific characters of the HP series and Hogwarts? I guess we'll see in a few months.

The HP film series also benefited from the popularity of the books and having a built-in audience eager to see them translated for the screen. Fantastic Beasts is only referenced, not a full story, so it'll be interesting to see what happens for that reason too.

 

[Quinnmac000]

Oh, and I like Moana's odds to outgross it, though I think that it could go either way easily depending on film quality.

Moana also has had bad press regarding the design of Maui but Polynesian and Samoans and that horrid costume someone at Disney would be okay to put out...the only win it has is the coconut villians seen in the trailer.