nol_dur
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And are being sold for $400+ on ebay...made for $0.78 by child labor in a factory below Shanghai Disneyland
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A rant against Disney Profiteers
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disneyfireman
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Impossible. Free country. One can buy anything and sell it. There is always a buyer. If I buy a shirt and sell it. There is no way to stop that. Scalping tickets is supposed to be not allowed. Folks do it right in front of the police. No one cares.
People also share AP to friends. Not supposed to be allowed. But folks do it.
Paper straw fan
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See there’s nothing inherently wrong with being a buyer/seller. My dad made an extremely profitable business doing this with old/dug up underground water pipes and valves- and another buddy of mine will buy up good deals (Disney actually sold him several working washer/dryers when they were getting new ones for the resorts) - sometimes a middle man can bring value to both sides, a seller who likely just wants the stuff gone and will gladly make a small profit off it, and then smaller scale buyers may want something they can’t procure themselves, at a significant discount from buying retail.
Where the gray area starts is with keepsakes and collectibles. I’ve seen ‘ball hawks’ at baseball games diving in front of young kids to catch balls, then either try to sell said ball to the kids parents, or go online w them. And you get the people buying their max allotment of a collectible solely for the intent to resale. There to me you’re going out of your way to take advantage of others, sometimes using dubious means to acquire (we had a scalper in college pay a bunch of us $50 cash to get at a ticket location early when they were releasing, say, NBA tickets, and have several of us get him tickets. ($50 for 2 hours work was a lot of money in college, outside of doing something illegal, I was game for that money)
People why buy all the beanie babies at a store, etc. Those people are providing no real extra service, unless somehow you live in Canada, are rich, want that Epcot cutting board but can’t come down for it. Everyone else it’s just limited items winding up in the hands of snake oil salesmen only concerned with making a buck off someone.
Where the gray area starts is with keepsakes and collectibles. I’ve seen ‘ball hawks’ at baseball games diving in front of young kids to catch balls, then either try to sell said ball to the kids parents, or go online w them. And you get the people buying their max allotment of a collectible solely for the intent to resale. There to me you’re going out of your way to take advantage of others, sometimes using dubious means to acquire (we had a scalper in college pay a bunch of us $50 cash to get at a ticket location early when they were releasing, say, NBA tickets, and have several of us get him tickets. ($50 for 2 hours work was a lot of money in college, outside of doing something illegal, I was game for that money)
People why buy all the beanie babies at a store, etc. Those people are providing no real extra service, unless somehow you live in Canada, are rich, want that Epcot cutting board but can’t come down for it. Everyone else it’s just limited items winding up in the hands of snake oil salesmen only concerned with making a buck off someone.
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daisyduckie
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It may be a free country, but Disney can set their rules for what goes on in their parks. If they determine someone is using an AP pass to buy and sell Disney goods they are well within their rights to put a stop to it.
disneyfireman
Well-Known Member
Thats the point...they can't. How is anyone going to know why you are buying something...they won't.
aw14
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The issue is that those people put themselves in that situation. The power of Disney doesn’t exist without people falling for it.
Try reading again, you obviously missed the point.
The_Jobu
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I am confused. I didn't see black as an option. And what colour does it make the tube or is the light just turned off?
Jimmy Thick
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Just a reminder.
Just because someone is selling merchandise on Ebay does not mean they are actually selling it and collecting money. There are some Disney diehards who will buy anything granted but I highly highly doubt people are getting rich flipping limited Disney merchandise.
Besides everyone knows selling prime Disney World ADR's are the way to make real cashola.
Just because someone is selling merchandise on Ebay does not mean they are actually selling it and collecting money. There are some Disney diehards who will buy anything granted but I highly highly doubt people are getting rich flipping limited Disney merchandise.
Besides everyone knows selling prime Disney World ADR's are the way to make real cashola.
Damon7777
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In the USA Disney or any private person can not file a criminal complaint..........Disney can get all civil on another party but criminal is not possible.
Only a public creature(as in an individual state the USA government) can file criminal complaint.
VaderTron
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"The little guy" seller has costs of 1) Access to the park (Pass-holders spend at least $300 a year) 2) Gas and/or vehicle use. 3) Purchase of item at retail price. 4) Cost of selling online (seller's fees). 5) Shipping costs. 6) Sales tax. 7) Income tax. 8) For Star Wars merch they had to get a special pass to access the land most likely by purchasing an inflated priced Disney hotel room.
In some instances one could argue that Disney's profit margins might be higher especially if the seller is not doing this all the time, but just with a few items. Those sellers definitely paid Disney a significant amount if they just sold a couple items from their Star Wars land opening attendance. They were doing good just to break even.
Again, you missed the point. My only complaint was buying things, possibly even at a discount. (annual pass holders), and then
selling them at a 300 or 400% mark-up. Such as selling the Batuu sodas for $21.00. I am not diverting attention from the fact
that the original soda cost $6.00, which is in and of itself a high price. I am not diverting anything. I am talking about a different
subject. Pay attention.
awoogala
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I guess they can. Personally, I am glad that they do. Even if it is only a small percentage of the people that do it.
Damon7777
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OK Edward Jackson, after reading your opening for a third time I still have no idea why you take issue with one buying something and then reselling it.
As for these shoes you talk about I still don't get it. Or do I? You show up at 11:30 pm (late) to a party which kicked off at 9pm and those who arrived at opening took the limited supply of Heineken.
As for these shoes you talk about I still don't get it. Or do I? You show up at 11:30 pm (late) to a party which kicked off at 9pm and those who arrived at opening took the limited supply of Heineken.
And then sold the Heineken they bought for 4 times what it was selling for. I feel, and I do not think I am alone, that this is wrong.
I can't be in California for the opening of Galaxy Edge. I may find a number of items there worth purchasing. Is it really right, for someone
to purchase that item, for the retail price and then sell it at a 400% profit? You may think it is fine. My point is that I do not. As with
anything in these discussions this is my opinion that I am expressing. You may be comfortable, with paying $45.00 for your limited
bottle of Heineken.
Heppenheimer
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nol_dur
Member
Yes there's something wrong with that, but Disney can't control what guests can or cannot do out of the parks. They try to limit what people can get but that doesn't work because everyone has friends. They try to revoke annual passes from k now profiteers but that doesn't stop the average person. There's not much Disney can do about this kind of stuff so I think we should learn to live with this stuff for know, even if it's wrong.
BoarderPhreak
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Is it a disgraceful example of the free market economy? Yes. Will these people get any of MY money? No. 
That said, it sucks if they deplete limited inventory in the process as the OP points out.
That said, it sucks if they deplete limited inventory in the process as the OP points out.
Lensman
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Just wanted to post in support of the OP. I'd like @Edward Jackson to be able to participate in runDisney and buy items commemorating their participation without having to compete with others who are monopolizing purchase of these same items for resale on eBay. I think the feeling is completely understandable.
Even if I didn't feel this way, I think expressing those feelings would be a perfectly fine thing to do on these forums without being attacked for having these feelings.
I'd be mad if I showed up at a party and there wasn't any beer left because folks crashed the party early, took all the beer, left, and sold it out of the trunk of their car. I'd be even more angry if it was good beer we were talking about.