However, in several jurisdictions, scapling a ticket (selling it for more than a set amount above face value) is illegal.
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However, in several jurisdictions, scapling a ticket (selling it for more than a set amount above face value) is illegal.
erasure fan1
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Outside of Disney severely limiting access through scan records of your purchases. They need to scan your pass or id, then register everything you have purchased. Once you hit the limit, no more. Asking people to just not support this will absolutely NEVER work. Everyone is always so offended that stores open on thanksgiving. And everyone says, just dont shop. But there they are, every year, waiting for their $9 Bluetooth headset.
Smiley/OCD
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Yes, I understand that...my point was that it is not unique to Disney.
In all fairness to him, it really is ridiculous at the runDisney expos, especially for special items for a particular race - MBs, Dooney & Burke bags, Pandora bracelets, etc. Fortunately, Disney had started limiting the number of each of those items an individual can purchase at the time. People used to fill up those small shopping baskets with multiples of each item. The SW races brought out the hords, many who weren't running, just shopping to later sell on eBay.
Besides, why show up on Wednesday or Thursday if you're not running until Sunday?
Smiley/OCD
Well-Known Member
If Best Buy has a Thanksgiving sale on 50" TV's for $99.00, there is usually a limit of about 50 per store...if you REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want that TV for that price, you have to make a sacrifice and skip the turkey so you could be in line at noon.
Not the best analogy. I don't need to travel and reserve a hotel room to buy a tv at Best Buy on Thanksgiving Day.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It takes two idiots to tango though...who’s buying?
But an event ticket is not the product being sold -- the EVENT is the product being sold, and the ticket is merely an admittance pass to the event. Someone else owns the product, and you just get to look at it. I don't claim to understand why so many jurisdictions felt it was necessary to restrict ticket scalping.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I would surmise two things:
1. The scalp is tax free...hence that’s a no no
2. Because it’s tax free and mabiuplative, it’s the kinda thing that’s organized crime could gravitate to like a bug
Lensman
Well-Known Member
Regarding ticket scalping laws, they seem to be an alliance of different interests:
1. Law enforcement, politicians, and venue operators who want to reduce scalpers selling counterfeit tickets; I'll also include predatory pricing in this. I'm not sure why the laws are written to discourage scalping of legitimate tickets at high prices, but maybe it's just part of how laws end up being compromises between parties with different interests. So politicians are "sold" on this rationale by promoters who have other interests.
2. Sports teams and entertainers who want their "true fans" be able to buy tickets at reasonable prices that are below what the free market would price them at. This is quaint and naive now, but it sounds like something that would fly in Green Bay. Part of this is keeping people from "unbundling" their season tickets and selling individual events at a profit. I did run across several reports of artists who were upset at pricing their tickets low and being upset that they were bought up by resellers. This extended to some who sold special tickets to fan club members but where somehow scalpers ended up cornering that market and reselling a lot of the inventory at high prices. This case seems similar to the runDisney case, where you want the actual participants to be able to buy commemorative products at reasonable prices.
I'm sure there are other motivations for other groups, as well. The landscape for these laws seems to be changing with the venue operators and big ticket vendors getting into the reselling directly.
1. Law enforcement, politicians, and venue operators who want to reduce scalpers selling counterfeit tickets; I'll also include predatory pricing in this. I'm not sure why the laws are written to discourage scalping of legitimate tickets at high prices, but maybe it's just part of how laws end up being compromises between parties with different interests. So politicians are "sold" on this rationale by promoters who have other interests.
2. Sports teams and entertainers who want their "true fans" be able to buy tickets at reasonable prices that are below what the free market would price them at. This is quaint and naive now, but it sounds like something that would fly in Green Bay. Part of this is keeping people from "unbundling" their season tickets and selling individual events at a profit. I did run across several reports of artists who were upset at pricing their tickets low and being upset that they were bought up by resellers. This extended to some who sold special tickets to fan club members but where somehow scalpers ended up cornering that market and reselling a lot of the inventory at high prices. This case seems similar to the runDisney case, where you want the actual participants to be able to buy commemorative products at reasonable prices.
I'm sure there are other motivations for other groups, as well. The landscape for these laws seems to be changing with the venue operators and big ticket vendors getting into the reselling directly.
Heppenheimer
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How much resale value could this runDisney stuff actually command, or am I completely misunderstanding the obsessiveness of Disney collectors?
Tony the Tigger
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This is known as “retail arbitrage” and is a legit business.
It is capitalism.
Get in line early or get over it.
It is capitalism.
Get in line early or get over it.
If I remember, Florida has overturned its scalping law. Used to be one could resell tickets at no more than $1 over face value. There were lots of undercover cops in the parking lots of major sporting events or concerts.
Agree with your comment about runDisney merchandise. People who've paid $$$ to register for the races should be able to purchase comparative items at the Expo and not have to worry about competing with resellers. Best way to do that? Limit the first 2 days to people with valid race registrations and limit the number of each item they can purchase. The merchandise for the 2020 SW race will be in high demand, as people will expect merchandise tied to the new land.
Depends on the race and the merchandise. A Pandora bracelet could go for well beyond the selling price, as the bracelet is unique for the race....and in limited quantities. And if it's the inaugural (like SW Dark Side in 2016), lots. I saw a Half Marathon magnet from that year on eBay for $40 - I believe the sale price was $8 or $9. And those Dooney & Burke bags.....I'm sure people were asking hundreds of dollars more and probably getting it. I bought my daughter the 1st Belle D&B bag several years ago. It was a one of a kind bag, limited supply and sold out shortly after put on sale on line (never offered on property). It was the first of the individual princess bags and D&B didn't make another Belle bag for several years after that. A woman offered her $1,000 for the bag.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The flaw in your theory is that most sports teams scalp their own tickets now. They run the second party resale sites and call them “ticket exchange”
Disneyana collectors have always been a bunch of crazy bastards...I wouldn’t doubt them
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The_Jobu
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aw14
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Really simple solution though....don’t buy it. We all have autonomy over our wallets.
A little personal responsibility goes a long way
daisyduckie
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I thought I read not long ago that Disney was attempting to stop what you are doing by revoking APs of people doing just that.
nol_dur
Member
The Black Kyber Crystal are these rare versions of a Red Kyber Crystal in Galaxy’s EdgeThe what now?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
