But how can we have the hotel look tall without actually being tall? And how could we house the characters in this hotel?
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A new Toontown for WDW, Part 2 (open brainstorming)
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ScorpionX
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For the height, use forced perspective similar to the castles. You could place character meet-&-greets in the hotel rooms.
And what about the elevator? How can we do that?
Returning to Oswald for a few minutes, the reason I want to go slowly on the (re)introduction of Oswald the Lucky Rabbit is because... well, I think it can probably be best explained with a section in the book called "Mouse Under Glass", in which they explained why they were more cautious in terms of "Aladdin"'s presence in the theme parks:
FYI, the brackets are words that were not in the book but that I put in myself.
Now, I know it seems strange to compare Oswald to "Aladdin", but I'm trying to be more cautious in terms of Oswald's (re)introduction and I thought of comparing it to "Aladdin"'s initial representation in the parks as a way of trying to introduce a property without necessarily committing any real money to pouring on any permanent cement, so to speak.
In my case, I was thinking of having Oswald's presence being in the guise of a shop. I might call it something like Oswald's Lucky Five and Dime.
fantasiafan
New Member
I am personally a fan of oswald. Also maybe a clocktower for a clocktower cleaners coaster. I have another ride concept I can show later if you like
Sure, I'd like to see it.
fantasiafan
New Member
It`s not fully fleshed out because most of the fun comes from the painting aspect:
BATTLE OF THE PAINT:
VEHICLES: Omnimovers like Buzz except they look like Mickey’s car. A touchscreen paint Pallet inside the car allows guests to tap it with their “paintbrush” to change the paint. They get to colour the scenes with the “paint”.
QUEUE: Guests walk into a bright and colourful house. Inside via AA’s Guests are introduced to the story: Pete has stolen the colour from toontown and it is up to you to fix it. Guests go through more colourful halls until reaching a room with no colour. Just black and white. Guests hop into a black and white Mickey Car and away you go.
SCENE 1: Guests go through big black doors to exit Mickey’s house and are in an indoors replica of toontown (smaller obviously). In the room is Goofy’s house, Donalds House and the two of them outside looking at their black and white selves.
GOOFY: GOSH, WHAT’S GOING ON. WHERE’S MY COLOUR?
(to change the colour on the set pieces we use a new type of screen. It wraps around the object to keep it’s shape but it is still a t.v. that is how guests can change the colour of the set pieces)
SCENE 2: scene two passes outside of Mickey and Minnie’s house.
SCENE 3: Guests pass by steamboat willie and toon port.
SCENE 4: Guests Pass Oswalds house.
SCENE 5: Guests enter into a large room and the vehicle moves up. It enters a room that is “in” the clocktower. You see Pete.
PETE: MWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! NOW ALL THE CLOURS ARE MINE AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME.
SCENE 6: Guests turn into another room and an AA Oswald says:
I SWITCHED IT TO PAINT ABSORBER BLAST PETE WITH IT TO SUCK THE COLOUR OUT OF HIM.
SCENE 7: Guests enter into a room with HUGE gears and blast Pete with paint absorber.
SCENE 8: Guests then turn into a room and go back down the tower and into Mickey’s house.
MICKEY: GOOD JOB GANG. I HOPE TO SEE YOU REAL SOON.
BATTLE OF THE PAINT:
VEHICLES: Omnimovers like Buzz except they look like Mickey’s car. A touchscreen paint Pallet inside the car allows guests to tap it with their “paintbrush” to change the paint. They get to colour the scenes with the “paint”.
QUEUE: Guests walk into a bright and colourful house. Inside via AA’s Guests are introduced to the story: Pete has stolen the colour from toontown and it is up to you to fix it. Guests go through more colourful halls until reaching a room with no colour. Just black and white. Guests hop into a black and white Mickey Car and away you go.
SCENE 1: Guests go through big black doors to exit Mickey’s house and are in an indoors replica of toontown (smaller obviously). In the room is Goofy’s house, Donalds House and the two of them outside looking at their black and white selves.
GOOFY: GOSH, WHAT’S GOING ON. WHERE’S MY COLOUR?
(to change the colour on the set pieces we use a new type of screen. It wraps around the object to keep it’s shape but it is still a t.v. that is how guests can change the colour of the set pieces)
SCENE 2: scene two passes outside of Mickey and Minnie’s house.
SCENE 3: Guests pass by steamboat willie and toon port.
SCENE 4: Guests Pass Oswalds house.
SCENE 5: Guests enter into a large room and the vehicle moves up. It enters a room that is “in” the clocktower. You see Pete.
PETE: MWHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! NOW ALL THE CLOURS ARE MINE AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME.
SCENE 6: Guests turn into another room and an AA Oswald says:
I SWITCHED IT TO PAINT ABSORBER BLAST PETE WITH IT TO SUCK THE COLOUR OUT OF HIM.
SCENE 7: Guests enter into a room with HUGE gears and blast Pete with paint absorber.
SCENE 8: Guests then turn into a room and go back down the tower and into Mickey’s house.
MICKEY: GOOD JOB GANG. I HOPE TO SEE YOU REAL SOON.
That actually seems like a good attraction idea.
Here's what Wikipedia mentions about the lack of Oswald in the parks lately:
So I want to wait until the character's future is determined before planning the big splash.
So I want to wait until the character's future is determined before planning the big splash.
flavious27
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I think it would make sense that a toontown can be added to Art of Animation or that pop century can use that as a launching off point for renovations.
But the Art of Animation and Pop Century are both hotels, not theme parks.
flavious27
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Toontown really wasn't more than meet and greets and a huge gift shop. I really don't see how a huge gift shop and meet and greets wouldn't fit at a disney hotel.
Because I don't believe they've ever had meet-n-greets before. They have gift shops, yes, but not character meet-n-greets.
And as for Oswald the Lucky Rabbit's lack of existence in the parks, here's what Wikipedia had to say about it:
So I really want to hold on making a big splash until the character's future is determined. I don't want to just throw him in haphazardly. Sorry, but it's going to take more than just a video game to do justice this way.
flavious27
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The Toontown Hall of Fame was where they had M&Gs at.
I doubt that disney is going to have oswald in the parks, most people don't know about him.
The Hall of Fame, however, was not in a resort, it was in a park.
And I did mention that, earlier in the thread, most people would not know who Oswald is, yet everyone insists that "Epic Mickey" appeared to be an ideal reintroduction for the character and as such, Oswald should represented in the parks. Everyone keeps insisting that there is Oswald merchandise in the Disney Store that has been selling well, but I haven't seen any. I'm just not particularly fond of just throwing in Oswald. I mean, he might be familiar to serious fans, but yes, he may not be familiar to the public.
flavious27
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yeah, hall of fame was part of toontown, which was in a park. really there is nothing that was part of toontown that would stick out if it was in a hotel. you can meet with characters in the hotels, with the nightly sing-a-long with chip and dale being a non meal. and the other part of toontown being a gift shop, what hotels on property don't have a gift shop? having toontown added to art of animation would make sense and wouldn't stick out.
I know that the hotels have gift shops, but two things: first, where can you meet characters in the hotels? I don't think they have designated meet-n-greets or even just random appearances by the characters like they used to. And second, I want Toontown to be in a park, not as part of a hotel. Having a whole set of rides and a designated area for meet-n-greets just seems too far-fetched for my taste. Besides, the Art of Animation tends to focus completely on recent movies ("The Little Mermaid", "The Lion King", "Finding Nemo" and "Cars"). So a Toontown here does seem a little out of place.
I don't know, maybe I'm just old-fashioned. I'm still trying to deal with having a Toontown in a park that is not a castle park. I am trying to figure out what would work in a non-castle park, but it's just not that simple. Amd a Toontown in a hotel just seems too far-fetched an idea. But that's just me.
flavious27
Well-Known Member
Well it each their own, that is why we have these discussions. Disney pushes the line with what we expect in hotels. They do the character meals, nobody else does that. They have sometimes large gift shops in hotels that aren't near anything that could justify them, whose else in orlando has themed gift shops like they do?
I think it is going to look weird that one half of that hotel complex is based on animation and the other on 6 decades. I see them making pop more of the mickey and gang films.
I don't understand.