A big difference I noticed between Disney and Universal

[tcool]

Beauty and the Beast: Stage show, interactive meet and greet show, restaurant with meet and greet.

The Little Mermaid: Ride, stage show, meet and greet, entire building at DAAR.

Finding Nemo: Ride, stage show, turtle talk, entire building at DAAR.

Toy Story: Ride, ride, MK meet and greet, DHS meet and greet, toy soldier atmosphere entertainment

Cinderella: Park icon, carousel, character meal, meet and greet, movie prop photo opportunity

Pooh: Ride, meet and greet, character meal

Peter Pan: Ride, PP meet and greet, Tink meet and greet, Wendy meet and greet, fireworks

Mickey and friends:

Ooh and I didn't even count parade floats.

Please, for the sake of intellectual consistency and just plain not being a hippocrite, start a thread complaining about each of those franchises and how awful Disney is for shoving them down our throats. Please be sure to blame Bob Iger by name.

Toy Story has a presence at All Star Movies

 

[draybook]

Also, blame Bob Iger all you want. I doubt he even knows that Frozen is in WDW.

Considering that it's his cash cow that will boost his compensation package at the end of each fiscal year, I'd bet he knows a thing or two about it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Considering that it's his cash cow that will boost his compensation package at the end of each fiscal year, I'd bet he knows a thing or two about it.

Nobody is going to WDW for a Frozen stage show. It's minimal incremental revenue at best. It's a guest satisfaction play for an underserved demographic. Little girls don't have much "for them" at DHS and/or Epcot. The "cash cow" is box office, home media, and consumer products. None of those are impacted much by theme park presence.

 

[draybook]

Nobody is going to WDW for a Frozen stage show. It's minimal incremental revenue at best. It's a guest satisfaction play for an underserved demographic. Little girls don't have much "for them" at DHS and/or Epcot. The "cash cow" is box office, home media, and consumer products. None of those are impacted much by theme park presence.

You keep telling yourself that, because clearly those shows weren't jammed pack and clearly there wasn't such a demand that they extended the dates......and with that I bid you farewell. The list of dust sniffers continues to grow.

 

[squidward]

Beauty and the Beast: Stage show, interactive meet and greet show, restaurant with meet and greet, Gaston meet and greet, second restaurant.

The Little Mermaid: Ride, stage show, meet and greet, entire building at DAAR.

Finding Nemo: Ride, stage show, turtle talk, entire building at DAAR.

Toy Story: Ride, ride, MK meet and greet, DHS meet and greet, toy soldier atmosphere entertainment

Cinderella: Park icon, carousel, character meal, meet and greet, movie prop photo opportunity

Pooh: Ride, meet and greet, character meal

Peter Pan: Ride, PP meet and greet, Tink meet and greet, Wendy meet and greet, fireworks

Mickey and friends:

Ooh and I didn't even count parade floats.

Please, for the sake of intellectual consistency and just plain not being a hypocrite, start a thread complaining about each of those franchises and how awful Disney is for shoving them down our throats. Please be sure to blame Bob Iger by name.

You're not getting it. You're talking about timeless classics that have been around for years, not a knee-jerk reaction to a big hit that may be completely forgotten about in 2 years.

 

[squidward]

oh. Ok. So you decide the rules of when disney should use its IP...if it doesn't fit your argument and preconceived notion.

If this is about Frozen taking over the Norway pavilion, there is a thread for that. But there is not a need to pretend frozen is taking over the parks with a bunch of permanent attractions. Just stop the exaggerations.

OK, I will. I'm sorry. I'll check in with you next time before I post anything.

 

[tcool]

You're not getting it. You're talking about timeless classics that have been around for years, not a knee-jerk reaction to a big hit that may be completely forgotten about in 2 years.

It's almost been two years since Frozen came out. Just wait 7 more months.

 

[Matt7187]

OK, I will. I'm sorry. I'll check in with you next time before I post anything.

Like seriously. People all over the internet get so upset when someone has a different feeling about something. Like if you disagree, give logical reasoning, just insults about how you don't run disney, so you aren't allowed to have an opinion.

 

[Andrew C]

You keep telling yourself that, because clearly those shows weren't jammed pack and clearly there wasn't such a demand that they extended the dates......and with that I bid you farewell. The list of dust sniffers continues to grow.

You tend to make good and consistent points in most threads. but calling someone a dust sniffer...come on now.

 

[Andrew C]

OK, I will. I'm sorry. I'll check in with you next time before I post anything.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

 

[Californian Elitist]

You tend to make good and consistent points in most threads. but calling someone a dust sniffer...come on now.

Lots of people get called names here. It's something to get used to.

 

[Andrew C]

Like seriously. People all over the internet get so upset when someone has a different feeling about something. Like if you disagree, give logical reasoning, just insults about how you don't run disney, so you aren't allowed to have an opinion.

There was no insult. There was a rebuttal. If you throw out opinions, expect to get challenged.

 

[mergatroid]

That's a good point. I'm not a big Potter fan, but find Diagon Alley to be amazing, as well as Hogwarts. So for someone like myself, it could be interesting. However, in general, we already know of the Potter craze and it's longevity. We don't have any reason to believe that Avatar will be the same.

I'm not a Potter fan at all either, though I enjoy the parks nonetheless. I do think Avatarland if done well will attract people but obviously we'll have to wait and see.

 

[draybook]

You tend to make good and consistent points in most threads. but calling someone a dust sniffer...come on now.

I consistently call people that when they show the symptoms. I love WDW and the Disney company as much as anyone here, but to turn a blind eye to anything they do that should be corrected is neglectful and ludicrous. But don't worry, from now on instead of pointing out their new label, I will simply start adding to the ignore list. I prefer to be in the company of other rational Disney nerds.

 

[Andrew C]

I consistently call people that when they show the symptoms. I love WDW and the Disney company as much as anyone here, but to turn a blind eye to anything they do that should be corrected is neglectful and ludicrous. But don't worry, from now on instead of pointing out their new label, I will simply start adding to the ignore list. I prefer to be in the company of other rational Disney nerds.

Fair enough.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You're not getting it. You're talking about timeless classics that have been around for years, not a knee-jerk reaction to a big hit that may be completely forgotten about in 2 years.

If Frozen 2 grosses less than $1.5 billion worldwide, I'll personally pay for you and three family members to stay six nights in the Bora Bora Bungalows with seven day park hoppers. Airfare, too.

Who CARES if Frozen is popular NOW? "Now" is when guests are visiting and wanting to experience it. You'd rather wait a few decades until all the little girls who love it today are in their twenties and thirties?

If anything, Disney should be doing more of this. Things like stage shows that can be rapidly changed are a great way to keep the parks fresh. Otherwise you end up with stale, stagnant shows like BATB and Indy. Strike while the iron is hot, not just for financial reasons, but to give guests what they want WHEN they want it.

 

[Matt7187]

There was no insult. There was a rebuttal. If you throw out opinions, expect to get challenged.

oh. Ok. So you decide the rules of when disney should use its IP...if it doesn't fit your argument and preconceived notion.

If this is about Frozen taking over the Norway pavilion, there is a thread for that. But there is not a need to pretend frozen is taking over the parks with a bunch of permanent attractions. Just stop the exaggerations.

Sort of sounds like an insult to me, but I really don't care. I'm not one to argue on the internet over whether an animated movie is featured too much in a theme park.

 

[Andrew C]

Lots of people get called names here. It's something to get used to.

I don't mind so much the sarcasm. Even the rudeness. Heck, be a jerk every so often. I join in myself from time to time.

But calling someone a pixie duster or doom and gloomer is one of my pet peeves.

 

[AndyS2992]

Frozen's popularity is pretty much limited to young girls.

Uh.. no. That's not true at all.

I sell a hell of a lot of Frozen merchandise where I work to little boys and girls, teenage boys and girls and adult women where it is almost definitely for them and not children. My manager is a man and he goes around with an Olaf note pad.

So yeah, not true.

 

[Andrew C]

Sort of sounds like an insult to me, but I really don't care. I'm not one to argue on the internet over whether an animated movie is featured too much in a theme park.

It was a sarcastic remark that may have been a bit rude. Followed by a rebuttal to the point he made.