Rumor Where could a 5th Gate go at Disney World

[tommyhawkins]

New Sheriff in town, did Daddy Josh promise to be as bullish as Comcast are? Or is he Chapek 2.0 with a sharpened axe? I'd be interested to know what the guy will do now he is holding the wallet.

Ever optimistic, if he takes a leaf from Comcast, I’ve just published a long-form article looking at what a fifth gate at Walt Disney World could realistically look like - but approached from a planning perspective rather than the usual IP wishlists.

Most of the discussion around a new Disney park lives seems to be much more abstract - including myths about if it's even possible. I wanted to treat it as if it were a real project and work through the constraints properly.

So I started with the district planning documents and land suitability maps to answer the obvious question first: where could a park actually go? Once you apply those filters, the options narrow very quickly.

From there I looked at what the existing parks struggle with and what modern parks like Epic Universe are getting right from a systems and infrastructure standpoint.

There is a full conceptual build in there too.

A Comprehensive Master Plan for a Fifth Gate at Walt Disney World

This article presents a comprehensive planning framework for a potential fifth theme park at Walt Disney World, drawing on district planning documents, land suitability analysis & modern park design

tommythemed.substack.com

 

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[tommyhawkins]

 

[danlb_2000]

I'll save everyone some time....

Thread '5th gate question?'

Jun 26, 2019

There is always a lot of discussion about Disney should put in a "5th gate". Is this something in the realm of possibility?? Is this something Disney is even considering?

• eliza61nyc
• Replies: 96
• Forum: WDW Parks General Discussion

 

[Splashin' Ryan]

Nowhere. Let's focus on the current parks more, and their *still* abandoned spaces (Tomorrowland, Wonders of Life, nighttime DAK) first. Next topic!

 

[Tha Realest]

They refuse to build anything new without ripping out current builds. They will not build a 5th gate probably for the next generation or two.

 

[Gremlin Gus]

Eh, I don't think we need a fifth gate at the parks at this moment, it's best that Disney just uses any expansion plots for the four gates they have first before even considering a fifth gate, which even then is like 20+ years from now until we see it either get announced or opens

 

[Moth]

I think in a decade we're talking about Universal building their fourth dry park next to EU and how Disney is starting to clear land.

 

[Nickm2022]

I'll say, if josh comes out at d23 and says "hey, wdw, you want new figment? and hey dl, want new TL? well here you go" he would immediately be one of my favorite ceos

 

[rreading]

New Sheriff in town, did Daddy Josh promise to be as bullish as Comcast are? Or is he Chapek 2.0 with a sharpened axe? I'd be interested to know what the guy will do now he is holding the wallet.

Ever optimistic, if he takes a leaf from Comcast, I’ve just published a long-form article looking at what a fifth gate at Walt Disney World could realistically look like - but approached from a planning perspective rather than the usual IP wishlists.

Most of the discussion around a new Disney park lives seems to be much more abstract - including myths about if it's even possible. I wanted to treat it as if it were a real project and work through the constraints properly.

So I started with the district planning documents and land suitability maps to answer the obvious question first: where could a park actually go? Once you apply those filters, the options narrow very quickly.

From there I looked at what the existing parks struggle with and what modern parks like Epic Universe are getting right from a systems and infrastructure standpoint.

There is a full conceptual build in there too.

A Comprehensive Master Plan for a Fifth Gate at Walt Disney World

This article presents a comprehensive planning framework for a potential fifth theme park at Walt Disney World, drawing on district planning documents, land suitability analysis & modern park design

tommythemed.substack.com

It’s an interesting discussion about the anatomy and location of the park; but what would theoretical content be?

As we know- the parks that exist need work; and the one that probably didn’t (MK) is getting a ton. Fixing these issues should be paramount

But if there were a next step plan, your location makes sense

 

[Figments Friend]

Nowhere. Let's focus on the current parks more, and their *still* abandoned spaces (Tomorrowland, Wonders of Life, nighttime DAK) first. Next topic!

This.

We don’t need a ‘5th Gate’ when there is so much that can still be done with the four WDW Theme Parks currently operating.

I will never understand this obsession some fans have with the 5th Gate yearnings.
How about we focus on further fleshing out and improving the Parks we ALREADY HAVE?

All four WDW Parks have unused, formerly operating spaces just screaming for redevelopment.
We don’t need yet another Park…with yet another gate admission ….to spread out the offerings even thinner.
Build on the foundation you already have in place.

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[donaldtoo]

Yea, I’m pretty sure they’ve got enough goin’ on right now in their 4 existing parks to not even have a 5th gate on the radar.

 

[bmr1591]

I'll say, if josh comes out at d23 and says "hey, wdw, you want new figment? and hey dl, want new TL? well here you go" he would immediately be one of my favorite ceos

Funny you say this. These are both things that will be fixed by 2031 (or announced and in progress) imo.

 

[veritas55]

I'm pretty sure their internal analytics have shown a 5th Gate would just cannibalize their other parks, certainly in terms of out-of-town guests, who can barely fit in the four parks (not to mention the pull of Universal).

As much as I would love a 5th gate, the smarter play here is to fully build out the existing parks (including all the abandoned areas).

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Better question: will Disney resume land acquisitions in Florida and Anaheim?

 

[Nickm2022]

Better question: will Disney resume land acquisitions in Florida and Anaheim?

Anaheim 100%

 

[tommyhawkins]

I'll save everyone some time....

Thread '5th gate question?'

Jun 26, 2019

There is always a lot of discussion about Disney should put in a "5th gate". Is this something in the realm of possibility?? Is this something Disney is even considering?

• eliza61nyc
• Replies: 96
• Forum: WDW Parks General Discussion

Some time on what exactly?

 

[Moth]

Funny you say this. These are both things that will be fixed by 2031 (or announced and in progress) imo.

One could potentially be fixed as soon as late next year.

 

[Architectural Guinea Pig]

Maybe actually read what OP wrote before posting? I would recommend it to be in the Imagineering thread though as it's mostly conceptual

 

[TheDisneyParksfanC8]

DLR is more justified in getting a third gate than WDW a fifth. There is a reason they have been vague about plans for the toy story lot.