New Disney Springs Challenge Room Venue - Level99

[MisterPenguin]

Oops, my cut and paste from Perplexity left out the age ranges. I corrected it. In short:

For over 21.

Can be OK for 13-20 if accompanied by an adult.

Under 13: Not recommended.

 

[JohnD]

Oops, my cut and paste from Perplexity left out the age ranges. I corrected it. In short:

For over 21.

Can be OK for 13-20 if accompanied by an adult.

Under 13: Not recommended.

The idea that 18-20 is okay, "if accompanied by an adult." Wow. I get you can't order drinks at the bar. But still.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The idea that 18-20 is okay, "if accompanied by an adult." Wow. I get you can't order drinks at the bar. But still.

Perhaps the margin on alcoholic drinks is what keeps the lights on.

 

[Agent H]

I can't say for sure, but if you want to be surrounded by them, just visit a new hotel like Terra Luna on opening day (3/25).

For that matter, just about any opening event will do, like the first day of any Epcot festival, or opening day of any Lake Buena Vista/Universal area hotel. Marriott has a big new property opening sometime in March, that's sure to draw a few.

There are now a LOT of them, so it is a bit surreal to be surrounded by people who are filming/narrating everything they are doing.

I'm sure the opening of Level99 will also be a draw!

Eh you get used to it after a while I’ve never had that problem on a ride though again if any of you are ever on pirates of Caribbean with my family I apologize on behalf of my dad in advance I’ve tried to get him to stop he doesn’t listen

 

[Tha Realest]

Man, nothing I love more than throughput and recurring costs!

My activations are activated

 

[Tha Realest]

Under 13: Not recommended.

I get that DS caters to a different crowd than the theme parks, but this seems like it could be a problem

 

[tnemgif]

So you've spent a minimum of $72 and you've almost won a snack and a water bottle? Yeah, that isn't going to work well with vacationing families.

Like I said previously - I applaud the effort to bring something different to this space and the DS area in general. But the more I read about it, the more I'm apprehensive about its long-term success.

If you’re going with the expectation of winning a prize, then yes, you’ll be disappointed. But this is really just a bonus that I think Level99 uses to get customers to come back. They don’t advertise prizes as a main feature. If you go to an arcade just to win tootsie rolls then yeah, you’re setting yourself up to fail.

I think everyone on this board who has been to Level99 has had overwhelmingly positive things to say about it.

Regarding the age questions, the Natick location has over 50 experiences. Some of them are brutal for even the most athletic adults. If you don’t enjoy an experience, you lose and move on to another. There is no order of experiences and you don’t have to do any that don’t seem fun to you. So it can be as family friendly as you make it.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I get that DS caters to a different crowd than the theme parks, but this seems like it could be a problem

Yeah—too many WDW groups have at least one person under 13. Seems like a bad fit unless they adjust down to age 7 or so.

 

[DoubleSwitchback]

I get that DS caters to a different crowd than the theme parks, but this seems like it could be a problem

I have a 10 year old and a 12 year old who love it.

I don't claim to have the foggiest idea of what will and won't make an experience-based business successful long term at Disney Springs, but the claim that it's not good for those under 13 is an example of terrible AI being swallowed uncritically.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I have a 10 year old and a 12 year old who love it.

I don't claim to have the foggiest idea of what will and won't make an experience-based business successful long term at Disney Springs, but the claim that it's not good for those under 13 is an example of terrible AI being swallowed uncritically.

This is from Level99's front page website...

A first-of-its-kind destination for adults featuring real-world, interactive social gaming with over 50 physical and mental challenges set in artistic environments.​

This isn't AI being wrong and people uncritically accepting it. It's from Level99 themselves.

 

[nickys]

This will be a major fail if they stick to that. This concept could easily be adapted to include more family oriented games.

They will also need to adjust prices. $36 per person for a session? A family of 4 are looking at almost $150 before any food or drinks.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

They will also need to adjust prices. $36 per person for a session? A family of 4 are looking at almost $150 before any food or drinks.

That seems to be the base pricing I have seen at the other level99 locations. You think that Natick and Providence can support the pricing, but the vacation capital of the US can't?

 

[nickys]

That seems to be the base pricing I have seen at the other level99 locations. You think that Natick and Providence can support the pricing, but the vacation capital of the US can't?

No idea where those places are. Are they near the #1 theme park destination in the world which already costs an arm and a leg to visit, such that the company themselves are apparently worried about it? I get there are a large number of visitors to the Orlando area, but those visitors are already paying high prices at the theme parks. Will they be happy spending $200 for an afternoon or evening?

It could be a case of those who have experienced it before will go, but I think the extra cost will deter many potential new visitors. Has any venture like this had long term success at DS? Disney Quest springs to mind, which ultimately failed due to not being updated as gaming moved on. The NBA and VR experiences didn’t last long either.

 

[ToTBellHop]

No idea where those places are. Are they near the #1 theme park destination in the world which already costs an arm and a leg to visit, such that the company themselves are apparently worried about it? I get there are a large number of visitors to the Orlando area, but those visitors are already paying high prices at the theme parks. Will they be happy spending $200 for an afternoon or evening?

It could be a case of those who have experienced it before will go, but I think the extra cost will deter many potential new visitors. Has any venture like this had long term success at DS? Disney Quest springs to mind, which ultimately failed due to not being updated as gaming moved on. The NBA and VR experiences didn’t last long either.

Doesn’t Universal charge $40-50 for their escape rooms? I suspect the same ballpark here.

Searching their website more, they suggest visitors be 10+. Better, but I still think they may need to reevaluate. Disney Quest would have MOSTLY appealed to 10+ as well, but had some things for younglings. And parents of toddlers increasingly feel they can take their kids everywhere. Just look at online cruise groups chock full of people willing to do anything and everything to make their 1-year olds happy on a cruise ship that wasn’t really built for 1-year olds.

I just saw a lady gleefully pointing out that she brought an inflatable pool onto the pool deck, filled it in the pool shower, and placed it right on the pool deck for the snowflake. Everyone else can just walk around his pool, I guess. It’s his vacation, first and foremost.

smh

 

[nickys]

Doesn’t Universal charge $40-50 for their escape rooms? I suspect the same ballpark here.

Searching their website more, they suggest visitors be 10+. Better, but I still think they may need to reevaluate. Disney Quest would have MOSTLY appealed to 10+ as well, but had some things for younglings. And parents of toddlers increasingly feel they can take their kids everywhere. Just look at online cruise groups chock full of people willing to do anything and everything to make their 1-year olds happy on a cruise ship that wasn’t really built for 1-year olds.

I just saw a lady gleefully pointing out that she brought an inflatable pool onto the pool deck, filled it in the pool shower, and placed it right on the pool deck for the snowflake. Everyone else can just walk around his pool, I guess. It’s his vacation, first and foremost.

smh

The wow was for the inflatable pool,

I didn’t realise there were escape rooms at Universal, I knew there were some somewhere in the area.

The times we visited Disney Quest my boys were 4 & 8, and then 6 & 10. They loved it …. but whilst the older one went everywhere with DH, I pretty much stayed in one room where the youngest did the racing car type games the whole time.

If they make this for teens and up, then the pricing might be OK. But if they include younger ages I think it’ll prove too steep

 

[Laketravis]

I think an axe throwing venue would be more appropriate.

 

[danlb_2000]

They will also need to adjust prices. $36 per person for a session? A family of 4 are looking at almost $150 before any food or drinks.

Splitsville is $31-$37 per person and the balloon is $25-$30 for an 8-minute ride, so $36 is competitive.

 

[danlb_2000]

I think an axe throwing venue would be more appropriate.

Especially if you throw axes at pictures of Disney executives.

 

[Agent H]

I think an axe throwing venue would be more appropriate.

And people complain level 99 is too adult oriented

 

[Laketravis]

Especially if you throw axes at pictures of Disney executives.

Exactly what I had in mind.