News Disney’s Q1 FY25 Earnings Results Webcast

BrianLo

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Well there wasn’t revenue for a while -
The productions were not paid for by consumer revenue (there was no revenue to pay for mandolorian, lady and the tramp, etc.)

There was always revenue from the moment the service opened. You are confusing revenue with operating income. There wasn’t enough revenue for the service to not post a loss, but it ran a loss precisely because the productions were paid.

Now the productions are paid AND Disney pockets the spare change AND they have control. It’s the far better outcome than staying old media.
 

Serpico Jones

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This is the Achilles' heel of D+ (and Disney in General) is that they are not even remotely nimble enough to generate content the way Netflix does. In the time it takes Disney to green light the next Star Wars or Marvel D+ piece of junk, Netflix will have produced 4 or 5 different series for around the same price of the one D+ series. All they would need is one of them to be successful to make up for the others that weren't, and even then, the sheer number of watch minutes for all 4 or 5 would still be many times that of the D+ production.
This is probably the key issue.
 

disneylandtour

Active Member
This is important to repost since people keep posting the canard that "Hurricanes!" is somehow a lie to disguise a failing park.

Domestic Parks and Cruises profited $1.99B this past quarter compared to $2.10B the same quarter last year. There's a 2% loss. Roughly the amount of loss from the hurricanes.
As a frequent visitor to WDW, I think this is mostly bunk. In the last nine years, hurricanes have closed the parks six times--sometimes for a longer period than the 2024 hurricane. In 2022, Disney World closed two separate times for two hurricanes. In recent years, large hurricanes to Central Florida have been more common. So one closure for one hurricane should be squarely within the realm of a standard Q4 or Q1 experience now for Disney. This would be like me saying, Hey, it took me longer to get home today after work because there was traffic--as there's heavy traffic most days here at 5pm. Nothing new.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Netflix lacks diversification. Streaming is having a moment. What happens when/if the world moves onto something else.
I think the world already is. I’m a Disney fan and thought Disney+ had good content - but I really don’t have that much time to watch it and when I do have time I can look up stuff to watch on YouTube for free.

I take enough trips by air that I catch up on Disney movies when I fly (took a while to find a plane that actually had Elemental - was not a popular one! Haha).

The most valuable thing for me on Disney+ is muppets.
 

Dranth

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As a frequent visitor to WDW, I think this is mostly bunk. In the last nine years, hurricanes have closed the parks six times--sometimes for a longer period than the 2024 hurricane. In 2022, Disney World closed two separate times for two hurricanes. In recent years, large hurricanes to Central Florida have been more common. So one closure for one hurricane should be squarely within the realm of a standard Q4 or Q1 experience now for Disney. This would be like me saying, Hey, it took me longer to get home today after work because there was traffic--as there's heavy traffic most days here at 5pm. Nothing new.
This sounds like a misunderstanding on how quarterly reports work.

The report was comparing this last quarter to the same quarter last year and that is it. Anything listed on the report is trying to explain the difference between those two things. Disney lost a cruise ship sailing and a full day of parks at WDW in Q1 2025 (10/24-12/24) due to a hurricane vs. Q1 of 2024 (10/23-12/23) where none of that happened. Hence why it is mentioned.

Without it people are making comparisons with incomplete information.
 

disneylandtour

Active Member
When the CEO says it several times a year how GSATs go down when crowded and go up when not so crowded, and so, their goal is to regulate overcrowding with steep price hikes and surge pricing and reservations. And how that's OK, because the increased spending per person makes up for lower attendance.
I believe the thing that is not being said is this: the pandemic period further decreased the middle class and increased the wealth of those in middle/upper to upper categories. Disney does not specifically target the wealthy as a sector--those people tend to end up at Four Seasons or Ritz, not the Contemporary. But to the point: Disney seems to be saying that it's more profitable to focus on middle-upper households, as they spend more per cap, than on also creating ways for lower-middle families to come to Disney World. It's a repositioning on the wealth standing of the target customer which has a byproduct, also, of lowering attendance. And honestly, I think this strategy is very shortsighted, as Disney, for decades, has widely cast a net toward all families knowing that some of the kids will be hooked for life. Now that net is smaller. We can loop back in 20 years and see how it played out.
 

JD80

Premium Member
I didn't say video was a moment. Video has gone from air waves to cable to VHS to disc to downloadable options to streaming. I said streaming is having a moment. And I fully expect some new version of video delivery in fifteen or so years.

Uh streaming is not only a replacement for physical media as home entertainment its a replacement for a distribution network that was over the air and cable.

Replace over the air and cable is a massive change in the ecosystem. Calling it a massive change is a vast understatement.

It's like the advancement of going cross country on a train vs. an airplane. Not so much as technology but infrastructure and data usage.

To flippantly say "eh there will be something new" just shows amazing ignorance.
 

disneylandtour

Active Member
Uh streaming is not only a replacement for physical media as home entertainment its a replacement for a distribution network that was over the air and cable.

Replace over the air and cable is a massive change in the ecosystem. Calling it a massive change is a vast understatement.

It's like the advancement of going cross country on a train vs. an airplane. Not so much as technology but infrastructure and data usage.

To flippantly say "eh there will be something new" just shows amazing ignorance.
Methods of dominant delivery have changed every 15 or 20 years since the start of video. Yes, streaming is a massive change. I don't think it actually changed physical media--digital downloads mostly did physical media in before the big boom in streaming in or around 2018/2019. But also, in that, the audience--or some of them--is moving away from scripted productions entirely, which is the center of streaming. My kids are far more interested in YouTube than any studio streamer. All I'm saying is that these things are in an ongoing state of flux and to recognize that streaming is the center of distribution now, but that will likely change in the mid-2030s.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I didn't say video was a moment. Video has gone from air waves to cable to VHS to disc to downloadable options to streaming. I said streaming is having a moment. And I fully expect some new version of video delivery in fifteen or so years.

You said...

"Netflix lacks diversification. Streaming is having a moment. What happens when/if the world moves onto something else."

Suggesting that this 'moment' thing is a liability to Netflix too..

I mean, I don't think I need to remind anyone that netflix didn't start as a streaming company... and that Netflix isn't only a streaming company any longer.. and is valued for it's brand, product, customer draw and base.

How video is actually delivered changes constantly - It's why you can realistically watch Netflix on your phone now compared to even just a few years ago.

The technology evolution isn't going to blindside or undercut Netflix. More likely in 5yrs from now you'll be talking about Netflix like you do Warner Bros instead of just as a 'streaming company'
 

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