Chi84
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I do now. But I stopped waiting in lines in 1999 when WDW introduced the first fastpass. So the worrying stopped 22 years before the buying started.Because you always buy LL, correct?
I do now. But I stopped waiting in lines in 1999 when WDW introduced the first fastpass. So the worrying stopped 22 years before the buying started.Because you always buy LL, correct?
You're right, they blew billions...to make hundreds of millions.![]()
How much is netflix losing by not licensing out their content?What is the revenue opportunity lost by not licensing out their content to third party distribution like Netflix rather than keeping it in-house and essentially paying themselves for the ability to do so?
I believe it would be more accurate to say they spent billions to own assets that are used to make hundreds of millions in profit currently.You're right, they blew billions...to make hundreds of millions.![]()
it wouldn’t have been the worst idea. Put Netflix and Apple on a bidding war to see who will pay the most for “exclusive” Disney content.sitting back and just retreating to a content-creator only isn't a growth strategy either.
I agree to some extent. They don't crowds like in 2029 again. At the same time IMO they have gone too far with regulating it. When they gone past the tipping point for value resorts and hoping those in the deluxes will cover those losses by increasing those prices. IMO is not a recipe for successWhen the CEO says it several times a year how GSATs go down when crowded and go up when not so crowded, and so, their goal is to regulate overcrowding with steep price hikes and surge pricing and reservations. And how that's OK, because the increased spending per person makes up for lower attendance.
And how reduced-capacity evening nights and parties keep selling out.
It's surprising when people don't believe Disney and guests want lower attendance.
What Do you mean 2029?I agree to some extent. They don't crowds like in 2029 again. At the same time IMO they have gone too far with regulating it. When they gone past the tipping point for value resorts and hoping those in the deluxes will cover those losses by increasing those prices. IMO is not a recipe for success
it wouldn’t have been the worst idea. Put Netflix and Apple on a bidding war to see who will pay the most for “exclusive” Disney content.
I understand some people have experiences like this, but it hasn't been mine. Whether or not they meant to do it, they 100% made the parks more enjoyable for us by slowing the return to pre-2020 levels. Again, we went from not going to going every year.
That doesn't mean I don't want a nighttime parade, shuttered attractions to be used, better maintenance around property, quality of merch/food improved, or want to see employees overloaded. It just means my experience does not match what you are describing.
i honestly don’t even know what point you are making… just trying to point out how I’m wrong?A notion that only works if you think you can control the finite, limited and desirable resource...
i honestly don’t even know what point you are making… just trying to point out how I’m wrong?
So what did Disney+ do wrong in your opinion, or you think they knocked it out of the park?
That was my suggestion from a few pages ago. Disney+ should have been the “Disney Vault” - sold for more money - and no original content (or very little - like documentary stuff).But it's also for this reason I've questioned how necessary the expensive, original series were essential to selling the service and retaining subscribers when data suggests engagement is often driven by the same established catalog.
I believe it would be more accurate to say they spent billions to own assets that are used to make hundreds of millions in profit currently.
Assuming those billions are lost implies they couldn't sell any of those assets if they choose to and that the service will not bring in more than it is currently in the future.
Well there wasn’t revenue for a while -It’s the whole silly premise that there isn’t revenue, the productions weren’t paid for by consumer revenue and the company doesn’t own the barrels of content along the way.
But you can’t really sell Disney+ any easier than you can sell Disney World - it’s part of the brand.Not to mention fair market value on D+ as a service is likely north of 50 billion if the market is at all accurate on Hulu.
That’s like saying it doesn’t track when the same crowd criticizing Igers huge salary wants the front of line CM’s to get a raise.What doesn’t track is the same crowd crowing for capital expenditures and growth in the parks and criticizing capital at the same time in the media space.
The irony in all of this is that if any entertainment entity has a “vault” today, it’s….Netflix.
The only way you can (legally) watch their shows / movies / documentaries is if you have, or have access to, a subscription. Want to watch Stranger Things S1 or Extradition? Better have a subscription; they aren’t on DVD or purchasable on iTunes or Amazon.*
Comparatively speaking, if I want to watch, say, Pinocchio, I can see it on D+, Disney Channel, possibly licensed to other channels, iTunes, Amazon, Fandango, or dig up a copy on VHS, DVD, Blu-Ray, or 4K BD.
*I think they did produce a VHS set for one of the seasons of Stranger Things, but that is a very rare exception.
We signed up for Disney + when it first came out, and were very disappointed that it didn't include all of their classic movies over the years. We thought that's what it would contain, along with newer shows. So, we cancelled and never looked back.That was my suggestion from a few pages ago. Disney+ should have been the “Disney Vault” - sold for more money - and no original content (or very little - like documentary stuff).
The irony in all of this is that if any entertainment entity has a “vault” today, it’s….Netflix.
The only way you can (legally) watch their shows / movies / documentaries is if you have, or have access to, a subscription. Want to watch Stranger Things S1 or Extradition? Better have a subscription; they aren’t on DVD or purchasable on iTunes or Amazon.*
Most of them have been added over the years.We signed up for Disney + when it first came out, and were very disappointed that it didn't include all of their classic movies over the years. We thought that's what it would contain, along with newer shows. So, we cancelled and never looked back.
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