DHS MuppetVision 3-D's Future: Potential Disney Park Venues and Vision Pro Immersive Experience

MrPromey

MrPromey

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TrainsOfDisney said:
If they save the AA’s I don’t think they are terribly difficult to install. Sweetums can be added digitally or…. Heaven forbid they continue to pay a CM for the role! Haha

So yes…. It almost seems as the theatre was designed with this in mind :)
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Yeah, I don't get why people bring up Sweetums as a problem. Out of all the in-theater effects, that one seems like a complete non-issue when it comes to putting this show someplace else. All they need is a door and enough space behind it to comfortably hold a castmember in costume. 🤷‍♂️
 
Tha Realest

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MrPromey said:
Yeah, I don't get why people bring up Sweetums as a problem. Out of all the in-theater effects, that one seems like a complete non-issue when it comes to putting this show someplace else. All they need is a door and enough space behind it to comfortably hold a castmember in costume. 🤷‍♂️
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Because it costs $$$ to pay multiple CMs to do that numerous times an hour over the course of each and every day.
 
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andre85

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BasiltheBatLord said:
Considering how tight the labor market has gotten overtime, I actually think it's pretty amazing they were successfully able to keep CMs in that role 12 hours a day for 30 years.
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Does anyone know how they scheduled it? Is there only one Sweetums at a time? Is there a backup if someone calls in sick? Are they in costume the whole time? Do they do anything between shows?
 
Disgruntled Walt

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andre85 said:
Does anyone know how they scheduled it? Is there only one Sweetums at a time? Is there a backup if someone calls in sick? Are they in costume the whole time? Do they do anything between shows?
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I really hope somebody answers these questions! I've wanted to know this for years.
 
TrainsOfDisney

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andre85 said:
Does anyone know how they scheduled it? Is there only one Sweetums at a time? Is there a backup if someone calls in sick? Are they in costume the whole time? Do they do anything between shows?
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Wouldn’t it be scheduled like other characters? For example “meet Mickey” obviously has several CM’s rotating in and out throughout the day.
 
lazyboy97o

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
Disney Dan brought up a great point in his video on the closure: The Villains show theater has two theater boxes on either side of the stage with screens in them, and the walls of the theater (at least the walls around the stage and half of the side walls) have screens as well. They could easily put Muppet*Vision back as a screen-only version, with the animatronics being screens and such. Not sure what you'd do for the penguins or Sweetums, though. New screen segment under the main screen for the penguins, and maybe overlaying Sweetums on the screens on the wall or Penguin orchestra screen? But if Disney doesn't scrap the animatronics, it is really that expensive to reinstall them? Can't be any more expensive than developing an entire new show like Villains, TLM, or the upcoming Monsters Inc show. I have zero knowledge on budgets though.

Also, I'm willing to bet Disney does a DCA PhilharMagic and the MuppetVision theater will be entirely the same for the Monsters Inc show going there, just with Muppet decor removed and the theater box curtains closed, animatronics or their components still sitting there.
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You need media, which does not currently exist, to actually play on those screens. And people would probably expect 3D media, which is going to get complicated with a bunch of different viewing angles to a bunch of different surfaces. You also then need projector space for each of these surfaces.

Animated figures themselves aren’t hard to bolt down, but you still need to build a structure to support them. You need physical access so people can safely get to them. When they’re elevated that means stairs. It also means room for lifting equipment. Data and power needs to be run. Computers to operate them need to be housed somewhere. You’re missing a lot of information if you’re looking at the guest facing portion of a theater and trying to work out what it can support.

andre85 said:
Does anyone know how they scheduled it? Is there only one Sweetums at a time? Is there a backup if someone calls in sick? Are they in costume the whole time? Do they do anything between shows?
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At least for awhile it was just one of the Cast Members assigned to the attraction as part of their rotation. I think one of the brothers who did WEDway Radio ( but also likely another podcast like Progress City Radio Hour because I’m pretty sure brothers were involved) worked there for their college program and talked about it once upon a time. Given the clear certainty of this recollection, a few grains or pounds of salt should be taken.
 
WorldExplorer

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It seems very unlikely it was just a part of the attraction's rotation at any point. All else aside, they would need to only put people tall enough to play him at that attraction.
 
Tha Realest

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TrainsOfDisney said:
Right. Just like it costs $$$ to pay CM’s to greet guests, start the show, sweep the floor, etc. - it’s part of the cost of operating a theme park. Haha.
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TrainsOfDisney said:
Can’t speak for all of time - but in recent years it was a character performer “puppeteer” - puppeteers do get a higher rate. (Other shows include Lion King and Mermaid)
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So…not the same as a custodial CM then? More costly?
 
Cmdr_Crimson

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EagleScout610 said:
Was told salvage crews have arrived today at MuppetVision. I expect we'll start seeing things vanishing off the building sooner than later.
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Should we have one for Gonzo on the Clock tower and call it....."Gonzo Watch"
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Cmdr_Crimson

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A recent interview with Brian Henson and his take on the closing of MV3D..
Is Muppet*Vision 3D gone from the theme park for good?
They wrapped it up in the way Disney does, where everything is recorded for historical purposes and all the animatronics are packed away perfectly. So, theoretically, they could bring it back out if they wanted to at some point. From the get-go, they designed it so that 500 people could go through every 25 minutes. It was one the most highly experienced attractions, I think, that Disney ever made. And I was very sad to see it getting wrapped up.
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To read more it's from this article...
www.theatermania.com

Interview: Brian Henson on Puppet Up, the Future of Muppet*Vision 3D, and Restoring His Muppet Christmas Carol - TheaterMania.com

Henson is the son of pioneering puppeteer Jim Henson.
www.theatermania.com www.theatermania.com
 
mattpeto

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