DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

GoofGoof

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I do think the lack of height requirement is a factor, along with capacity etc., but that still doesn't really add up to it having the longest wait in the park on some days.

The other thing is... the wait time is the wait time. People are still seeing a 60 minute wait for NRJ (sometimes an 80-90 minute wait) and getting in line for it, so they're willing to wait that long to ride. A disliked ride wouldn't get waits like that regardless of the capacity, because no one would be willing to wait that long to ride.

I'm not suggesting it's considered a beloved classic... but I do think the data indicates it's more popular with the general public than people here think.
I don’t think it’s disliked. Probably more just average popularity. If people disliked it they wouldn’t likely wait even 30 mins. I feel like for WDW the magic number is closer to 20 mins where people view that as “walk on” and wouldn’t hesitate to wait for pretty much anything.

At AK there are only 6 rides and they average under a 60 min wait each so in a 10 hour day it’s easy enough to do all 6 (which not everybody can) and still have 3+ hours to eat and do shows or animal exhibits. If you moved this ride to MK where it’s impossible on most days to do anywhere close to everything I think the wait would drop a lot as more people would skip it. Giving up 60 mins in the line at MK would be a much bigger sacrifice than 60 mins at AK. At AK there’s really no benefit to skipping it unless you really want to spend a long time on animal trails or you plan to leave early or split the day which I know some people do.
 

doctornick

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I tend to think that a big part of the NRJ wait time is that Pandora is just so isolated and annoying to travel back and forth from. FoP is awesome and a must do for the park so you are already going to that area. Once you are there it seems pointless not to just not wait for the other ride. Especially as you are probably less likely to return to Pandora later that day so you kind of “suck it up” and just wait even if it’s longer.
 

Fox&Hound

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I am not a construction expert so not sure on logistics, but I think maybe the gift shop building that has to be demoed (circled in blue below) could come down and they could still keep MV3D open. The pathway between MV3D and the gift shop is pretty narrow and the current exit for the show dumps you out behind the building requiring you to walk that way to get back to the front of the land (red line below). I wonder if they could re-route the exit to the Star Wars/Grand Ave side of the MV3D show building instead (yellow line). I assume that’s a backstage path used by CMs so not sure if it could be used or if it is too narrow to work. If not they could close MV3D for a week or 2 to demo the building then put up construction walls and re-open for a while. To your point they could also just close MV3D when ready to demo. It’s only delaying the inevitable so I don’t expect them to spend very much to keep it open longer but if it can be done relatively cheap and easy why not keep the capacity there as long as possible.

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The placement of that gift shop really is wild. The area will feel so much bigger when it is removed.
 

Fox&Hound

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I think you are still discounting the fact that it’s the lowest capacity ride in a park with very few rides. The other rides with less wait times have higher capacity. It’s also 1 of 2 rides in the entire park with no height restriction at all which impacts not only families with little kids but a lot of people with issues around motion, size (FoP and EE) and the general roughness of rides like EE, Dino and FoP. Even the safari and/or rapids could be a no go for someone with a bad back for example. Navi is really not restricted for almost anyone and it’s a park without any other of those rides (maybe safari). There is plenty to do at AK without riding the rides; between shows, animal exhibits and restaurants/shops but most guests want to ride too. So my explanation for long lines is more around the other offerings at the park then the popularity of the ride itself.

Here’s the list of AK rides with their height restrictions and also with Operational Hourly Capacity I found online so who knows how accurate. I also got the average wait times from Touring Plans for August 23, 2024 which was a 5 crowd day for the park and a day I happened to be there so I can confirm it was a pretty normal day :). Trying to show an average crowd day when Kali was still in play:

FoP - 44 inch - 1,440 OHC - 71 mins
Navi - none - 1,080 OHC - 61 mins
Safari - none - 1,260 OHC - 41 mins
Kali River - 38 inch - 1,620 OHC - 59 mins
Everest - 44 inch - 1,620 OHC - 42 mins
Dinosaur - 40 inch - 2,160 OHC - 32 mins

So Navi did have the second longest wait time on average that day, significantly higher than EE and Dino and probably Kali for first half of the day before the sun began melting us 😎. Those attractions have 50% more capacity or in the case of Dino double the capacity and they have mobility and height limitations. It seems to me that FoP wait times are lower now that it’s on LLSP. I don’t have the math to back it up and maybe it’s just that the “newness” wore off but something is driving down waits from a few years back. It’s a little harder to explain the Safari. It has more capacity than Navi but a much lower wait time not proportional to the higher capacity. It’s also the headliner of the park (co-headliner now maybe with FoP). It also has no height restrictions and is generally pretty mild (at least compared to Dino or EE). Maybe the heat impacted that day a little since the ride is all outdoors but I think Navi consistentlyhas longer waits even when temps are more mild.
I still wish we would have gotten Bug’s Land when it closed in DCA. It would have been a great addition to AK and met a real need for smaller kids in the park. Plus it was cute and well done.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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Bummer. HS would benefit much more from replicating the Monsters Inc dark ride from Tokyo (or even the one from Cal Adventure) than from building another coaster.

The park needs stuff for kids to do.
This is meant to be a more in between coaster afaik. Somewhere probably more like Slinky than Rockn’ But agreed, what this park really needs are some C tickets, give us some flat rides and playgrounds!! A rising tide will raise all boats and lower the wait times on the few attractions without a height requirement
 

bryanfze55

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This is meant to be a more in between coaster afaik. Somewhere probably more like Slinky than Rockn’ But agreed, what this park really needs are some C tickets, give us some flat rides and playgrounds!! A rising tide will raise all boats and lower the wait times on the few attractions without a height requirement
Yep! The door coaster may not be a “thrilling” coaster, but I’m sure it’ll have a height requirement. I believe only 2 rides in HS right now have no height requirement. HS is heavily themed towards franchises that are aimed at young children, so I don’t really get it.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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Yep! The door coaster may not be a “thrilling” coaster, but I’m sure it’ll have a height requirement. I believe only 2 rides in HS right now have no height requirement. HS is heavily themed towards franchises that are aimed at young children, so I don’t really get it.
I believe there is 2 rides but quite a few shows. If it was up to me, I would also update the shows. Maybe do something like Tangled or Moana where Beauty and the Beast is to get kids way more into it. They have great shows for Tangled and Moana on the cruises. Honestly, I would make the theater there a rotating theater of performances that change out every few years or so.

I hope they consider putting back the playground planned for Monsters Inc. even if it’s a simple little park like what we see with a playground + maybe an ice cream stand, it would help HS a lot in being less of a concrete jungle.

If TSLs space was used better, I would chuck some flat rides in there, maybe a carousel like DCA has, Triceratops Spin, and/or the parachute ride to make the land a wonderful 4-5 rides with most of them being accessible to younger kids.

Here’s to hoping that animation courtyard is replaced with something great for kids.
 

Incomudro

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Mama Melrose back there will have to close as well... One less table service restaurant in the park...for a couple years while they convert it... So we will be losing the dreadful Pizza Rizzo and Mama Melrose...A shame the TSL area never planned for a "Pizza Planet" (with better pizza) directly lifted from the Toy Story films... that would have been a no-brainer....and if the Alien Swirling Saucers were part of the building...like all indoors and outer space themed with the restaurant overlooking the ride, it would have been amazing... and a VERY popular restaurant....for the mere visual WOW of the space.....
A real Pizza Planet is in the movie, would be a slam dunk.
Particularly now with Toy Story Land in place.
 

bryanfze55

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I believe there is 2 rides but quite a few shows. If it was up to me, I would also update the shows. Maybe do something like Tangled or Moana where Beauty and the Beast is to get kids way more into it. They have great shows for Tangled and Moana on the cruises. Honestly, I would make the theater there a rotating theater of performances that change out every few years or so.

I hope they consider putting back the playground planned for Monsters Inc. even if it’s a simple little park like what we see with a playground + maybe an ice cream stand, it would help HS a lot in being less of a concrete jungle.

If TSLs space was used better, I would chuck some flat rides in there, maybe a carousel like DCA has, Triceratops Spin, and/or the parachute ride to make the land a wonderful 4-5 rides with most of them being accessible to younger kids.

Here’s to hoping that animation courtyard is replaced with something great for kids.
Play areas are underrated for families. The key is theming them right. The Redwood Creek area in DCA is a prime example. With both Tom Sawyer Island and the Boneyard getting demolished at WDW, it's unfortunate that when little Johnny needs to blow off some steam his parents response will have to be "No, sorry, let's go stand in line for another hour."
 

Jrb1979

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Play areas are underrated for families. The key is theming them right. The Redwood Creek area in DCA is a prime example. With both Tom Sawyer Island and the Boneyard getting demolished at WDW, it's unfortunate that when little Johnny needs to blow off some steam his parents response will have to be "No, sorry, let's go stand in line for another hour."
That's exactly what we do with our 5 year old. We go to parks all the time and just go from one wait to another.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Bummer. HS would benefit much more from replicating the Monsters Inc dark ride from Tokyo (or even the one from Cal Adventure) than from building another coaster.

The park needs stuff for kids to do.
My hope is that they go with more classic dark ride attractions for AC expansion.

I think the Monsters dark ride from Tokyo would have worked just as well at DHS too and maybe this is just a fanboy opinion but I’ve been hearing about the Door Coaster for years from insiders here so I can just imagine if they decided on a clone on the Tokyo dark ride instead we’d be hearing stuff like too bad they didn’t go with the old door coaster plans instead of a cheaper clone.
 
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GoofGoof

Premium Member
A real Pizza Planet is in the movie, would be a slam dunk.
Particularly now with Toy Story Land in place.
As long as it’s not the same pizza I’d be good with it. I just hope that the pizza planet that is now pizza rizzo does not continue to serve the same pizza now with some Monsters name. I’d be fine if the QS in Monsters land is a pizza focused joint as long as they update the menu.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Oh. I thought for a brand new land there would have been more than one ride but better than nothing
More like a mini-land. Monsters Land replaces Muppets Courtyard which is currently a show and 2 restaurants with some shops. Monsters actually adds the ride itself to the land in an area that is currently backstage so it’s a small expansion of the park. Putting Monsters there also keeps the Animation Courtyard area open for a future expansion that will hopefully include a lot more than 1 ride.
 

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