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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Goofyernmost

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I’m a big “feels” guy and generally get most of those reactions when I'm watching a nighttime show or a form of entertainment.

I personally think DHS is massively underrated in this community. It's a flawed park but I'd rather spend a whole day there than the rest of the Florida parks, except for Epcot. Great combination of E-Tickets and the most shows. Plus F!

DCA has World of Color which gets back to the "feels".

ToL Awakenings is the closest thing AK offers and it's a seasonal offering. It's better than nothing, but it's not even better than the secondary shows at the other parks (Epcot Beacons, JBJB!, WWoA, DMM, etc.).
I agree! The problem is that the boards are overrun with those that will never accept change. If anyone else has not noticed, Disney is currently, slowly, secretly moving away from THEMED PARKS but simply areas containing different attractions. They are still creating some impressive and some not so impressive heavily themed lands within diversified parks.

Epcot was one of the first noticeable ones and for the majority of the changes away from what it originally was is recognized as the decline of Epcot due to limited interest in the edutainment system. That was mostly because by the time Disney built an attraction displaying a new technological breakthrough it was already known publicly and therefore created no new thing for the public to run to see. Why? Because the original purpose no longer existed in a more technically advanced society.

Then came Disney/MGM. Just like Universal up the road, they found out quickly that there was no need for yet another movie filming location, much less two. So it became just a place that highlights individual movies instead of showing how they were made. However, if you think about it Disney Hollywood Studios is exactly what they are doing now. The things shown there now are from Studio's other than Disney's Studio (even if they do own most of them now).

Seeing that these actions actually helped increase demand they in massive leaps. The change in DAK with the ending of the Dinosaurland (which were animals) to the Tropical America's which, I defy anyone to explain, like I'm three, what connects that to Animals other than the human animal. Don't bother, it is really just Disney changing.

Then the real kick in the rump is what is currently happening in Magic Kingdom. Carsland and Villiansland will be a very immersive branch parks because it doesn't connect with Fronterland or Patriots section. It will be just a large section independant of the surrounding area, but a land within itself. Precisely, what they have been doing to the other three for the last few years.

I understand what is happening and even though I hated to see the only scenic area in MK drained and leveled, I know that what is coming to replace those two things will be far more popular than what the prime section of WDW had in the past couple decades. I never found walking between attractions to be anything close to immersive. All it was and still is would be a mass of unorganized human activity pushing and shoving to get to attractions. Once on the attractions, that's when it became immersive for me. I don't have to be aware that the Country Bear Jamboree is in Frontierland to be enjoyable. I don't have to ride the Jungle Cruise and after say, wow, what an adventure. Plus I sure as hell don't think of the Tiki room as adventurous. The immersion within that attraction is the biggest and important part. In this particular situation the reward is the destination not necessarily the trip to it.

Understand please that this is entirely my opinion, I have no inside source telling me this is what they are trying to do. I think the big picture is that they needed more flexibility when it came to the parks themselves. Sometimes there are just so many things that can theme into any single park but small independant lands within those parks helps to more easily imagine the things that can go into the lands. In Disney's case they needed a way to utilize that massive property, primarily the four parks, into a balance. They need to make the degree of large draws necessary to balance the flow of humanity instead of cramming into just one park. MK is the most popular, but there is a way to increase the popularity of the other three and that is what they are doing. Even MK is opening up two large underused areas for people to go when in MK which might balance off some of the overcrowding of that park.
 

Purduevian

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I would be okay with losing Kali in the unlikely case someone agrees with my idea of building a similar ride In EPCOT's Canada Pavilion.
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Grizzly River Run 2; Brother Bear's Adventure.
 

Chester&Hester Enthusiast

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I can not wait for the day they announce the removal of Kali River Rapids for a massive expansion in the back of AK and people start the #saveriverrapids and talk about how River Rapids is the best ride of all time.

I genuinely enjoy Kali a great deal. It was especially good when everything still worked.

I could honestly spend half the day just soaking in the detail work in the queue alone.
 
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Nickm2022

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1.issue with kali is it blocks access to all the space behind AK, either meaning it would need teared down to access the space or a really really creative and lengthy walk way around
2. still hope we get a lion king ride near Africa. don't want a clone of the Paris one tho as that park needs a special and unique ride. personally want a family friendly boat ride
3. I think that IP's in Animal Kingdom are ok, but they need to be sperate from the Rhode stuff, ie I like how Avatar, Encanto, and Indy are being related back to nature/animals yet are still separate from the real animals and real world commentary. unlike zootopia in the tree. personally I think moana should go to MK, Coco to EP's Mexico, and Zootopia to HS. However ip's like Jungle Book, Brother Bear, Tarzan, ice age, Bambi, or UP I would be ok with at AK as long as they are done with the focus on nature and/or animals. Again, at least Encanto will be focused on the animal kid and indy on the mythical creatures (rhode wanted to originally anyways hence Beastly Kingdom). or id build an IP based Fantasy springs like land in the back with a hotel that connects to the skyliner.

anyways was bored so I drew up my personal want but would be fine with a oceania section, a North American section as depected below or something else
 

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Centauri Space Station

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I’m a big “feels” guy and generally get most of those reactions when I'm watching a nighttime show or a form of entertainment.

I personally think DHS is massively underrated in this community. It's a flawed park but I'd rather spend a whole day there than the rest of the Florida parks, except for Epcot. Great combination of E-Tickets and the most shows. Plus F!

DCA has World of Color which gets back to the "feels".

ToL Awakenings is the closest thing AK offers and it's a seasonal offering. It's better than nothing, but it's not even better than the secondary shows at the other parks (Epcot Beacons, JBJB!, WWoA, DMM, etc.).
DHS is far better than the MGM i grew up with from the late 90s on.
 

Nickm2022

Well-Known Member
That is certainly an interesting take.
I agree, at least rn Hollywood Studios rn have a path forward with a park where you step into where movies are made and movies themselves. I think mgm was a good idea with good execution but I think its almost impossible to have a studio park be a full day park unless it is an actual full fledge studio. We can debate muppets all day but having a Toy Story land, a Star Wars land, a monsters inc land, and a small muppets corner with a ride is an awesome line up, plus not counting the pure amount of land for future expansions wether it be a zootopia or inside out or incredibles. not to mention the new Animation Courtyard looking great and the already great sunset and Hollywood blvd I think the park is in better shape rn, especially when it comes to potential and future paths
 

HMF

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I agree, at least rn Hollywood Studios rn have a path forward with a park where you step into where movies are made and movies themselves. I think mgm was a good idea with good execution but I think its almost impossible to have a studio park be a full day park unless it is an actual full fledge studio. We can debate muppets all day but having a Toy Story land, a Star Wars land, a monsters inc land, and a small muppets corner with a ride is an awesome line up, plus not counting the pure amount of land for future expansions wether it be a zootopia or inside out or incredibles. not to mention the new Animation Courtyard looking great and the already great sunset and Hollywood blvd I think the park is in better shape rn, especially when it comes to potential and future paths
What exactly is the park's theme other than random stuff plopped together. If GMR were still a thing I would sort of understand the step into the movies concept but as a centerpiece attraction MMRR doesn't really explain the overall theme of the park. Also, a certain other park literally had as its slogan for many years as "Ride the Movies" and has always been a jumble of themes thrown together. How does DHS taking virtually the same approach make it any better or different from said park. and to tie it back to the topic. I do fear Animal Kingdom will be joining DHS on its way to a thematic no-mans land soon as well.
 
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jah4955

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DHS is far better than the MGM i grew up with from the late 90s on.
Imo, with the exceptions of several facades, Star Tours and Stunt Spectacular, 1989 MGM couldn't be more different than today's HS.

One point I don't recall seeing on the forums yet ....isn't so much about seeing how things were made, but the excitement of being able to boast "I was there when that part of (TV show/movie/cartoon) was made!"

It's been thoroughly established that "bringing that back" just won't fly (nm practical considerations). That's one reason I don't, "cry a river" that (now) HS will likely forever seem like the most "hodgepodge" park. It's fine w/me.

But the bigger reason why I don't mind the "mess" it's in (compared to what I've experienced in the other 3 parks), is, for me, after the first-visit-excitement of seeing something "new" in 1989, it just never had much of an overall effect on me. Either as a "working studio" or as current "IP glut."

In different ways, the other 3 parks always had at least one "timeless" effect on me, although I haven't been to AK since before Avatarland, I haven't been to EPCOT since the redo, and I haven't been to MK since they tore out one my absolute (if not "the") favorite part...all of which makes me nervous.
 
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jah4955

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It’s different that’s for sure. One of the nice things about the DAK project is it will not detract or change the park that much.

DHS is drastically different and has not grown in a sensible way.
I can't see the DAK project not being an overall improvement compared to what was there (even though it's TBD the "animal" connection).

DHS will likely forever suffer the dual curse of being wedged in geographically and them not planning on "overall working studio" concept failing.

I can see DHS becoming "better than ever" if they do Monsterland, Animation, & Muppets RR right, bring back MV3D thru Villians showbuilding, and somehow make Starwars land more knetic.

I also predict (far, far into the future)...they CAN keep expanding by replacing "parking lots" with "parking garages" (like DL & Disney Springs).
 

flyerjab

Well-Known Member
Agreed. The park needs a lot more fleshing out and more C ticket type attractions added to make it feel like a full day park for everyone and also spread out crowds. Ultimately Tropical Americas is mostly a lateral move that isn't really changing the park's roster in a meaningful way. (Dinosaur to Indy, Triceratops Spin to Carousel, Primeval Whirl and Carnival Games and Boneyard to Encanto).
Lateral in terms of number of rides I agree. However, this should provide for a better experience, especially for Encanto and the new carousel. The Encanto attraction is an indoor dark ride that should be appreciably longer with multiple show scenes. Definitely an upgrade over the off the shelf coaster that you couldn’t ride in the rain. And this carousel is also covered, so coupled with Indy, this land will have all rides capable of being open on bad weather days, something DAK desperately needs. In fact, if there is more attractions coming after Tropical Americas is completed, I would bet that most will be indoor rides.
 

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
That is certainly an interesting take.

What exactly is the park's theme other than random stuff plopped together. If GMR were still a thing I would sort of understand the step into the movies concept but as a centerpiece attraction MMRR doesn't really explain the overall theme of the park. Also, a certain other park literally had as its slogan for many years as "Ride the Movies" and has always been a jumble of themes thrown together. How does DHS taking virtually the same approach make it any better or different from said park. and to tie it back to the topic. I do fear Animal Kingdom will be joining DHS on its way to a thematic no-mans land soon as well.
Ok yes i agree GMR is a major loss that should’ve been updated, but the MGM i grew up with was 5 rides, 2 of which i was too scared to do. The backlot tour became pretty hollow once they removed any filming at the park but removing residential street followed by the live narration made it the worst. I liked LMA the first few times i saw it but sitting out in the sun on bleachers for the same show wasn’t worth it. SOA was a waste of space for a bunch of facade sets.
 

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