DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[celluloid]

You can feel however you want about IP going everywhere. I'm just saying that his presence in every version of this ride is basically to say a sentence at the start, disappear for the vast duration of the ride, dodge a trap, and then note, "Whew! That was a close one," at the end. The general substance of his character and his history is largely irrelevant to this attraction, assuming it is similarly formatted. There is no reason to assume they have to "change" his character to fit as you suggested when we've seen that he'll probably be largely inactive and minimally present.

They don't have to change the character, it means they just plop the same formula and the IP it is based on is not a fit for the park.

So if the character does not feature details in the ride that alter him to fit the theme, and the IP does not fit the theme...
That means the park was bent to get IP in.

The character is the title and main character, and arguably THE IP of the film. He is a serial adventure story character.
If your best argument is his presence is largely irrelevant, then the park took the hit.

IP can be chosen to put in very well be it reference or main concept of a major attraction. It is not mutually exclusive.
"The IP is only there minimally" is not really a strong argument to say it is done well in fitting.

That just proves the point.

 

[James Alucobond]

You said just a few posts ago that they would have to bend IJ's character. My only point was that they will not because his character barely shows up and does not do anything in the context of other versions of the ride that would inherently contradict content more appropriate for AK, which could easily be threaded throughout the entire temple portion of the ride during which he has always been absent. I am not saying that I'm confident they will succeed in having content that fits in well during that section of the ride, but it would not require any alteration to his character to achieve that end.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Since they did not change the ride system, Tiana is still a fun log flume (when its running)
I presume they are not going to change the ride system for Indy so this will also still be a fun ride too.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

The way to make Indy work in Animal Kingdom is keeping the plot similar to Skull Island at IOA. People come to a sacred place with impure intentions, despite warnings from the natives, and find themselves at odds with their surroundings. When hope seems lost a fantastical force appears to rescue them, leaving them with a profound sense of reverence for the land.

 

[DisneyHead123]

If you have Indy the guy who hast to learn a lesson, he is not a hero of the ride's IP. Since that is not what is going in, it is just Adventure. Indy's carelessness or selfishness is never questioned nor even seen as that in the property.

I think Indy always had a tinge of anti-hero about him. It was supposed to be charming and lovable but he was never a hero in the style of, say, Clark Kent, who really has to save the day in the end. It’s not uncommon for Indy get his a** kinda handed to him and to barely make it out alive, sometimes sans treasure or whatever he was looking for. I don’t see a metaphorical beatdown by the power of nature being at all of out character. It would be weird if it ended with Indy going “Golly gee guys, now I’ll recycle!!”, of course, but if a gruff and peeved Indy barely walks away? Still conveys the same point about messing with nature.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

The theme of DAK isn't about humans and animals getting along though
The park is meant to be the relationship between man and nature, both the positive and the negative sides of it

Many of the original DAK attractions touched upon the negative side
Kilimanjaro (poaching), Kali (logging) and ITTBAB (humans' hatred of bugs)

You don't have to turn Indy into an animal lover for him to fit the park
His indifference or carelesness towards nature can be woven into the story of the ride

Could definitely be something where Indy is in search of something and when he finds/takes it it awakens a Mayan God and elements of nature turn on him until he is able to put it back and "learns a lesson"

 

[celluloid]

I think Indy always had a tinge of anti-hero about him. It was supposed to be charming and lovable but he was never a hero in the style of, say, Clark Kent, who really has to save the day in the end. It’s not uncommon for Indy get his a** kinda handed to him and to barely make it out alive, sometimes sans treasure or whatever he was looking for. I don’t see a metaphorical beatdown by the power of nature being at all of out character. It would be weird if it ended with Indy going “Golly gee guys, now I’ll recycle!!”, of course, but if a gruff and peeved Indy barely walks away? Still conveys the same point about messing with nature.

Yep. That would be great, but that is not just minimal holding a door or hanging ingredients from rope with boulder. That would involve more.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Yep. That would be great, but that is not just minimal holding a door or hanging ingredients from rope with boulder. That would involve more.

I guess we’ll have to see when the ride opens… I’m keeping an open mind until then. To my mind the thematic debate over Indy is pretty minor compared to some of what was rumored earlier, like Zootopia, so on the whole I’m relieved. I think both Indy and Encanto being indoor rides is a good thing too. If something doesn’t work out theme wise, the exterior of the buildings should still work really well.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

To my mind the thematic debate over Indy is pretty minor compared to some of what was rumored earlier, like Zootopia, so on the whole I’m relieved.

Zootopia is happening and going into the parks icon.

 

[celluloid]

If Indy was an obvious and great fit, we would have gotten him in 1998 when the park had the ride system mirrored piece per piece and it was the most successful new E Ticket at DL just years before.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Zootopia is happening and going into the parks icon.

Wait what? Which park?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Wait what? Which park?

Animal Kingdom

 

[MisterPenguin]

Wait what? Which park?

It's Tough to be a Bug is being rethemed into a Zootopia attraction.

But it won't be a mini-land like at other parks.

 

[DisneyHead123]

Animal Kingdom

Oh, the show, ok. Not sure how I feel about that but, it was cartoon bugs before so… again, not sure. My stance is that if that kind of thing has to be at AK, at least shove it in an enclosed building, lol. When I said Zootopia I was talking about what they have at Shanghai (which looks amazing… but doesn’t belong at AK).

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Could definitely be something where Indy is in search of something and when he finds/takes it it awakens a Mayan God and elements of nature turn on him until he is able to put it back and "learns a lesson"

Yeah but this doesn't speak Animal Kingdom to me. It's Adventureland.

Oh wait, in Disneyland, it literally is!

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Could definitely be something where Indy is in search of something and when he finds/takes it it awakens a Mayan God and elements of nature turn on him until he is able to put it back and "learns a lesson"

Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Golden Serpent

Deep within ancient Mesoamerican ruins lies the Temple of the Golden Serpent, the resting place of a fabled Aztec vessel believed to contain Quetzalcoatl's essence - the power to control the elements themselves...

 

[threvester]

It underperformed but was well-received by audiences and is a beloved classic today. Wish on the other hand underperformed and also had, at best, a lukewarm reception. Box office isn't the only factor in what makes a movie "good" or "deserving of park representation". Plenty of box office flops have attractions- Pinocchio, Fantasia, Alice in Wonderland... the list goes on. Princess and the Frog was also barely a profitable film when it released, and now it has one of the most popular rides (wait time wise) at the Disney parks.

People who didnt ride Splash Mountain are now not suddenly riding because of Tiana.

 

[MJL92]

People who didnt ride Splash Mountain are now not suddenly riding because of Tiana.

100% untrue. My niece wouldn't ride anything with any drops / thrills. Tiana is her favorite princess. She braved the drops for the new ride when she wouldn't before, and it's her new favorite. Now she's excited to go back to ride all of the other rides she was previously afraid of.

 

[solidyne]

[...] Now,.some things wouldn't fit. I would have a hard time seeing Star Wars, but even there there are some concepts that would fit. [...]

Absolutely! Like these for example...

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Princess and the Frog was also barely a profitable film when it released, and now it has one of the most popular rides (wait time wise) at the Disney parks.

It's not because of the film; it was already one of the most popular rides at the Disney parks. Let's not revise history here.