Fire at Magic Kingdom

[Lilofan]

N95 masks keep out airborne particulate matter and liquids. They do not protect against fumes.

Nitrogen or CO2 are the most common propellants for dry chem fire exringuishers. A N95 would not prevent inhalation of these gases.

To protect from fumes or gases, a true respirator (which requires fit testing) with appropriate filtration is required.

However, you would be correct that an N95 would provide protection to the wearer from inhaling the powder extinguishing agent in the dry Chem fire extinuisher.

Odd in my office complex courtyard , that when I had to use a dry chem fire extinguisher to put out an ash can because idiots put lit cigs in the can, I sprayed directly into the fire and the dry chem didn't blow back in my face. Perhaps it may have been windy that night at MK, who knows..

 

[Cesar R M]

Deflect, nice try.

irony.

 

[Cesar R M]

I get that, but the general public doesn’t wear N95s. I don’t understand why you expect someone to wear one, just seems like a random comment

Besides, they’re currently not super easy to come by, and aren’t very effective unless fitted properly. Dry chem gets everywhere when used.

The N95s were supposed to be the recommended "to go" protection for masks. Before they just changed the tune and recommended anything with double barrier. At least thats what I remember.

N95 masks are against Disney Policy for Cast Members. Cast Members are to wear company issued masks to please the Disney Look freaks.

Very true. Large amounts of responding RCFD units for alarms and confirmed structure fires.

A bit strange, since I've seen N95's with printed stuff. They could not order Disney themed ones?

 

[hosekiller]

Odd in my office complex courtyard , that when I had to use a dry chem fire extinguisher to put out an ash can because idiots put lit cigs in the can, I sprayed directly into the fire and the dry chem didn't blow back in my face. Perhaps it may have been windy that night at MK, who knows..

Why didn’t you just dump a glass of water on it?

Dry chem makes a huge mess and gets everywhere. It’s a common occurrence for it to irritate people, especially if they have existing issues.

 

[hosekiller]

The N95s were supposed to be the recommended "to go" protection for masks. Before they just changed the tune and recommended anything with double barrier. At least thats what I remember.


A bit strange, since I've seen N95's with printed stuff. They could not order Disney themed ones?

The N95s were supposed to be the recommended "to go" protection for masks. Before they just changed the tune and recommended anything with double barrier. At least thats what I remember.


A bit strange, since I've seen N95's with printed stuff. They could not order Disney themed ones?

Don’t even get me started on the constantly changing mask recommendations haha. I was just curious why a N95 mask entered into the equation of fire extinguisher use since that’s never been a thing either before or after the pandemic.

 

[EeyoreFan#24]

I think all of this back and fourth about different possibilities is a perfect example of why a medic unit is assigned to fire calls. Nobody knows exactly what is going to happen. My opinion is a medic would have been rolling down Main Street weather the guard had a mask or not. As hosekiller pointed out drychem gets everywhere and even absent respiratory exposure still could require some minor level of decon to the user. Never mind potential issues the firefighters might find themselves victims of on scene. This falls under the category of better safe than sorry. People will always second guess response strategies -especially when it directly involves them- but I don’t see anything unnecessary here.

 

[hosekiller]

I think all of this back and fourth about different possibilities is a perfect example of why a medic unit is assigned to fire calls. Nobody knows exactly what is going to happen. My opinion is a medic would have been rolling down Main Street weather the guard had a mask or not. As hosekiller pointed out drychem gets everywhere and even absent respiratory exposure still could require some minor level of decon to the user. Never mind potential issues the firefighters might find themselves victims of on scene. This falls under the category of better safe than sorry. People will always second guess response strategies -especially when it directly involves them- but I don’t see anything unnecessary here.

Yeah, every department does it differently. My department doesn’t run EMS so we rely on a private contractor, and we usually don’t get an ambulance unless there’s a confirmed patient. Other departments send ambulances on fire calls just in case there’s a victim…..or to serve has rehab, or to boost manpower to meet various requirements. Given the staffing concerns voiced by the union, I’m betting the ambulances on Main Street were serving many purposes (manpower/staffing as well as patient care).

 

[EeyoreFan#24]

Yeah, every department does it differently. My department doesn’t run EMS so we rely on a private contractor, and we usually don’t get an ambulance unless there’s a confirmed patient. Other departments send ambulances on fire calls just in case there’s a victim…..or to serve has rehab, or to boost manpower to meet various requirements. Given the staffing concerns voiced by the union, I’m betting the ambulances on Main Street were serving many purposes (manpower/staffing as well as patient care).

I think you right, I think reedy creek has cross trained medic units. Which could by two were assigned. We ran a separate county EMS and county/cities fd. We were assigned to all smoke/fire calls for medic standby unless it involved a home laboratory of one particular type.

 

[hosekiller]

I think you right, I think reedy creek has cross trained medic units. Which could by two were assigned. We ran a separate county EMS and county/cities fd. We were assigned to all smoke/fire calls for medic standby unless it involved a home laboratory of one particular type.

Jealous! It’s normal these days in my neck of the woods to wait an hour + for an ambulance for a medical call, and even then the ambulance may not even include a paramedic.

 

[JoeCamel]

Yeah, every department does it differently. My department doesn’t run EMS so we rely on a private contractor, and we usually don’t get an ambulance unless there’s a confirmed patient. Other departments send ambulances on fire calls just in case there’s a victim…..or to serve has rehab, or to boost manpower to meet various requirements. Given the staffing concerns voiced by the union, I’m betting the ambulances on Main Street were serving many purposes (manpower/staffing as well as patient care).

Jealous! It’s normal these days in my neck of the woods to wait an hour + for an ambulance for a medical call, and even then the ambulance may not even include a paramedic.

Last 20 years I lived near a large retirement community that set up their own volunteer EMS years ago when the county response was slow. The county has put new stations in the area so every call gets two ambulances rolling plus an engine, response is fast and the local unit is free but what a waste of resources

 

[hosekiller]

Last 20 years I lived near a large retirement community that set up their own volunteer EMS years ago when the county response was slow. The county has put new stations in the area so every call gets two ambulances rolling plus an engine, response is fast and the local unit is free but what a waste of resources

Yeah, that seems like overkill, but there also seems to be a reason for it, even if it’s no longer a valid reason

 

[PG 134]

The N95s were supposed to be the recommended "to go" protection for masks. Before they just changed the tune and recommended anything with double barrier. At least thats what I remember.


A bit strange, since I've seen N95's with printed stuff. They could not order Disney themed ones?

Disney CM's were supposed to wear the company issued masks provided by costuming. I believe each CM was supposed to receive 5 masks. There were 2 shapes and 3(?) sizes.

 

[Cesar R M]

Disney CM's were supposed to wear the company issued masks provided by costuming. I believe each CM was supposed to receive 5 masks. There were 2 shapes and 3(?) sizes.

Kinda weird, because when I went.. a lot of CMs were Disney themed masks but of those you buy at merch store.. not generic.

 

[peter11435]

Kinda weird, because when I went.. a lot of CMs were Disney themed masks but of those you buy at merch store.. not generic.

They shouldn’t be. I can’t think of a single time I have seen this. They should all be wearing the Disney issued mask or a blue disposable mask. The Disney issued mask is a blue galaxy print with stars and a “hidden Mickey”

 

[Cesar R M]

They shouldn’t be. I can’t think of a single time I have seen this. They should all be wearing the Disney issued mask or a blue disposable mask. The Disney issues bask mask is a blue galaxy print with stars and a “hidden Mickey”

Shame I have no photos to confirm if they were the models you said.

 

[BillyGr]

Yeah, that seems like overkill, but there also seems to be a reason for it, even if it’s no longer a valid reason

Last 20 years I lived near a large retirement community that set up their own volunteer EMS years ago when the county response was slow. The county has put new stations in the area so every call gets two ambulances rolling plus an engine, response is fast and the local unit is free but what a waste of resources

It does seem a bit overdone, but I guess when it comes to potentially saving lives that is better than not having anyone available when needed.