Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[Touchdown]

Back in the original FP days I could rope drop Epcot, ride Soarin' and TT twice each. Grab breakfast at Sunshine Seasons after Soarin #2, ride SSE and leave by 11:30. I don't know if that's possible with the current LL system. If it is, now it costs extra while I used to do it for free.

To hit that rate you've got to be in very short queues. For some rides like RotR, I've ridden 3x back to back during slow times (not using LL) but it takes almost 2 hours due to the queue length just to walk through, the few minutes waiting to get sent to the pre show followed by the 3 part pre-show with another queue before part 3.

With EE I can do Frozen, SRL Test Track, Soarin and Rat by 10:30ish on a good day. I can walk fast though, and that’s without breakfast.

 

[nickys]

So.... I was watching An All Ears Video on LL and their 15th Tip/Hack was very interesting. Apparently now you have a 5 min grace period on the front, and a 2 hour grace period on the back. Couple this with the fact that you can book a new LL once your window expires, you can actually kind of stack if you leave the parks in the middle of the day and come back.

I don't think they mention this in video, but I believe you still must use at least 1LL earlier in the day before this loophole works.

That has always been the case.

I suspect that loophole will now be closed.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Another thing this chart clearly indicates, IMO, is that Jungle Cruise is not long for this new Disney World. I assumed it had more mid tier capacity, but people are so inefficient in getting themselves into the boats, if that's in the ballpark... wow. Not even Peter Pan level. And the labor costs. No wonder there are these inklings that could lead to Moana going in there.

All the reasons given for scrapping 20,000 Leagues... apply to Jungle Cruise too. That it's lasted this long is remarkable.

But part of me still thinks they don't have it in them to remove it completely.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Never underestimate the appeal of payroll cuts! I don't think they bother to do detailed calculations like that. Payroll is the biggest "controllable expense" and there are executives who are laser focused on controlling expenses.

They’re not eliminating VIP tours, come on…

 

[Tha Realest]

All the reasons given for scrapping 20,000 Leagues... apply to Jungle Cruise too. That it's lasted this long is remarkable.

But part of me still thinks they don't have it in them to remove it completely.

It’ll stay in DL likely for historical reasons (same with their rivers)

I can see it becoming Moana land in WDW.

 

[Purduevian]

That has always been the case.

I suspect that loophole will now be closed.

I thought it was always a 15 min grace period. Anything after that was up to the CM. The claim in the video is anything within 2 hours of the end time, the light just lights up green like you were on time.

 

[nickys]

I thought it was always a 15 min grace period. Anything after that was up to the CM. The claim in the video is anything within 2 hours of the end time, the light just lights up green like you were on time.

Officially it’s a 15 minute grace period.

In practice though, the 2 hr grace period after the end time was in effect for G+ and is still in effect for LLs. And yes, the light turns green.

 

[Purduevian]

Officially it’s a 15 minute grace period.

In practice though, the 2 hr grace period after the end time was in effect for G+ and is still in effect for LLs. And yes, the light turns green.

What does "Officially" even mean then if the light turns green after 2 hours?

 

[nickys]

What does "Officially" even mean then if the light turns green after 2 hours?

That’s what CMs will tell you. Or what Plan Disney might say.

 

[Purduevian]

That’s what CMs will tell you. Or what Plan Disney might say.

Gottcha, I did a quick google search and lots of planning sites give the 15 mins, but I couldn't see anything on it from Disney.
So:
Officially official: Be on time
Unofficially official: 15 min grace period
In practice: 2 hour grace period
Reality: Unlimited grace period at CM discretion

 

[co10064]

Used the new system today at DHS and have surprisingly been able to redeem all the multi-pass rides by now (1:45pm local time). I definitely prefer this to system to Genie+, but I may have had a different experience if I was staying off-property.

 

[MisterPenguin]

FP and Genie+ has always been 5 minutes early and 15 minutes late.

The same for VQs and ILL.

EXCEPT... GotG:CR stopped caring how late you were for ILL or VQ. 2 hours. 5 hours. They didn't care. Even if other VQ rides did care. Especially TRON, which was super strict. Unless you started to cry in front of the CM.

Now?!... who knows. It's cats and dogs living together.