EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

[DCBaker]

The Journey of Water Virtual Queue is open this morning.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The Journey of Water Virtual Queue is open this morning.

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I would be interested to know how long before it’s full.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'm not saying it's inherently bad and I hope you don't think I was doging on it. I don't think they intended it to have 70+ minute waits regularly when they designed it.

My opinion is just that, especially given how short it is and how nothing particularly spectacular happens on it, that it's not worth that wait, IMO.

I remember back when it first opened and people were ed after waiting 90-120 minutes to ride it and then finding out how it was that someone was defending it saying it wasn't a bad ride and would certainly be worth the 30 minute wait it'll probably have once the newness wears off... and here we are.

I'd ride it again but I wouldn't wait 70+ minutes to.

The height restriction observation is a good one.

I like Tough to Be a Bug but given that it's also one of those attractions without a height requirement that, by the nature of the type of attraction it is, would hold young kid's attention better than something like the bird show, I understand why they might be changing it (Was the Zootopia another blue sky or did they say they were actually doing that one? I can't keep track anymore).

Oh I absolutely wouldn't wait 70+ minutes to ride it and I agree it shouldn't get waits like that -- I also think the ride would be better received in general if it didn't have those waits. I don't think Flight of Passage is worth the waits it gets either.

 

[Incomudro]

Newer vehicles have a dash warning to check your backseat before exiting the vehicle.

I knew it was coming, if it wasn't here already.

 

[SilentWindODoom]

I wonder if the river ride is so full because it's chock-a-block with people who are waiting for their time to ride Flight of Passage and don't want to stray too far.

 

[OSUBMac555]

I did the annual pass holder preview this afternoon and I was impressed with it. It’s not an e-ticket, it’s not groundbreaking, but it’s an enjoyable experience that I do think captures the edutainment spirit of Epcot well. It’s a win and I’m glad for the addition.

 

[Skibum1970]

I used to think this too but now I'm not so sure.

While people on this site tend to be very down on it, I get the feeling the general public must like it. It's been around long enough that nearly everyone queueing for it knows what it is, and it still regularly has the second longest wait in the park (sometimes it even has a longer wait than FoP, although that's not the standard).

If DAK had more to do I'm sure the wait would decrease to an extent, but at this point I'm inclined to think it would still be among the busiest rides at the park.

From what I recall, the river ride also has lower capacity, around 80 pph. With it being that low, the line gets long pretty quick. Frozen Ever After and Peter Pan have similar capacity constraints and long lines. I don't know the numbers but I would say that Pirates easily beats Frozen and Navi'i on daily throughput, mainly because Pirates can handle nearly three times the guests per hour.

I do agree wholeheartedly that AK needs more rides but Navi's wait time can be misleading. FoP is a better barometer.

 

[UNCgolf]

From what I recall, the river ride also has lower capacity, around 80 pph. With it being that low, the line gets long pretty quick. Frozen Ever After and Peter Pan have similar capacity constraints and long lines. I don't know the numbers but I would say that Pirates easily beats Frozen and Navi'i on daily throughput, mainly because Pirates can handle nearly three times the guests per hour.

I do agree wholeheartedly that AK needs more rides but Navi's wait time can be misleading. FoP is a better barometer.

I assume you meant 800, but I believe NRJ's capacity is higher than that. I think it's somewhere between 1200-1400 an hour -- higher than FEA and Peter Pan, but certainly not a people eater like Pirates.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I would be interested to know how long before it’s full.

If you put your foot over the drain, the attraction fills up in 10 minutes.

 

[lightningtap347]

It's very pretty at night!

 

[Rich Brownn]

Blame the current day US litigious society for this.
You can't buy a bucket, or plastic bag without a warning on it.
Vehicles will soon have "Check for your children before exiting" messages in them if the don't already.

My car already alerts me if there is something in the back seat

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

So, who else thinks this is the end of the water features at Imagination?

 

[MisterPenguin]

So, who else thinks this is the end of the water features at Imagination?

Disney rarely removes unless something is ready to replace it.

Unless that that thing costs too much or is a liability.

So... I'm guessing Imagination water features will be around a long time.

 

[BagOfGroceries]

I just got through it, and it was super fun! Will it be a worthy replacement for the space? We’ll see, but as a pure experience, it’s a solid 8.5/10

 

[James Alucobond]

Walls are down by the meet-and-greet space. Rolling planters have moved in instead.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

I got to go through it today. It was drizzling, so there was no wait. It is nicely done, but the criticisms are quite valid. I will say, even with clouds, I noticed the sun and its heat coming through. So, I don't know if the amount of shade will be as great as it seems come the hot summer afternoons.

Also, even being not that crowded, it seems like a logistics nightmare. I didn't get to experience a couple of the effects, and we got caught in bottlenecks more than once.

The theme is a bit disjointed, but not as bad as I feared. I still think it would have been better as Tefiti only. But, the placement is the biggest issue. It already feels disconnected where it is, except from the Seas. And, there is a large empty area in front of the Land. Plus, I am really fearing for how the center is going to look with only 3/4 sides filled with things.
I truly wish this would have been the center of World Nature with a walkway around it, showing key parts of the attraction - where you could enter it from either side (much like the set up of the Communicore showcases). Then, have something proper in position 4/4 in the center. It just feels like it was designed by someone who hadn't ever been in the park and plunked down on a site map.

 

[aladdin2007]

I got to go through it today. It was drizzling, so there was no wait. It is nicely done, but the criticisms are quite valid. I will say, even with clouds, I noticed the sun and its heat coming through. So, I don't know if the amount of shade will be as great as it seems come the hot summer afternoons.

Also, even being not that crowded, it seems like a logistics nightmare. I didn't get to experience a couple of the effects, and we got caught in bottlenecks more than once.

The theme is a bit disjointed, but not as bad as I feared. I still think it would have been better as Tefiti only. But, the placement is the biggest issue. It already feels disconnected where it is, except from the Seas. And, there is a large empty area in front of the Land. Plus, I am really fearing for how the center is going to look with only 3/4 sides filled with things.
I truly wish this would have been the center of World Nature with a walkway around it, showing key parts of the attraction - where you could enter it from either side (much like the set up of the Communicore showcases). Then, have something proper in position 4/4 in the center. It just feels like it was designed by someone who hadn't ever been in the park and plunked down on a site map.

this exactly....saw it today and all of us in our group said this looks like animal kingdom...Disney has simply lost it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

this exactly....saw it today and all of us in our group said this looks like animal kingdom...Disney has simply lost it.

Huh. Have they in the past mentioned that Future World looked like Tomorrowland?

 

[KeithVH]

I am baffled at the need (or is it just a TDO bureaucratic want?) for all of this safety warning signage for this.

At the entrance there are four (4!) different shapes and sizes of signs that have different and sometimes duplicate warnings and instructions on them. Why? Then they staff all the signage with an immersive hostess from Moana's kingdom to speak to you about all the signage surrounding her.

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But my goodness, it's that big sign behind the hostess podium that really takes the cake. "Magical", it is certainly not.

Any Disney attraction with warnings about "DIARRHEA" and "SWIM DIAPERS" and "BATHING LOADS" needs a rethink, in my opinion. (What the heck is a "bathing load"?) It's almost too bad they couldn't get Imodium as a corporate sponsor.

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They need to say "Interactive Water Feature" at least one more time. Maybe preferably twice in the same sentence as above.

Then again, considering how well EVERYONE obeys rules, the last three bullets make me question ever wanting to step foot near the place . . .

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Huh. Have they in the past mentioned that Future World looked like Tomorrowland?

That's not a fair comparison. Saying Adventureland looks like Animal Kingdom would be the better comparison.

Tomorrowland and Future World absolutely looked similar. That was actually a driver for the 90s redo, so they each had a different identity. Part of why Disney didn't expand the Outpost itself was because of Africa in DAK.

The lands of each park having a clear identity used to be a main design focus for WDI and management. There was overlap, but in places it made sense. Blurring the lines to drive inclusion of popular franchises would have been a tough sell until that started to erode under Iger. Yes, we had Splash, Star Tours at DL, etc. under Eisener. But, this is a whole new level.

And, I will say, I think there was a way this exact attraction could have been done to integrate quite well into World Nature They just aren't choosing to care any longer.